Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what his letter means in these scope of things. That a bunch of high school/college guys got drunk while at the beach. Nothing in that letter is any different then anything he said in testimony.

"Loud obnoxious drunks with prolific pukers," but ralphing is all about his week stomach, right? An obvious lie just got more obvious. When he was under oath, why didn't he just say he had wild drunken parties at the beach and sometimes he threw up. Nobody really cares about his drinking back then. So why can't he just admit it?

Well, clearly the Democratic senators DO care - very much - about his partying as a teenager. Otherwise, why on earth would they have wasted time asking about the meanings of some crass slang words from his yearbook? Such a stupid tactic.

The Democratic party has gone into the sh*ts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

This cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.

Most people probably would come out swinging. But most people aren’t federal Judges. I was a federal law clerk. And the stepped up Hatch Act provisions and ethical rules Judges (and their clerks in terms of the Hatch Act) agree to live under are oppressive. Your political activity is limited to voting. No yard signs. No car magnets. No donating money. No expressing a political opinion in public. Clean social media. Financial disclosures for judges. Recusals if it could appear you could not be impartial. My judge had to recuse because my DH had an ownership interest in a company that he was scheduled to hear in his court. When I left, My cases at my next job had to be screened to make sure they had not appeared before my judge while I was there. Lawyers all take an ethics class in law school, a seperate ethics bar, and have ongoing ethics training. This stuff is taken very seriously.

So yeah. Most people woukd come out swinging. But what you don’t get is most people are not trying to be a Supreme Court Justice. If he really could not control himself, he has no business being seated.

Ethics? Rules? Laws? Ancient history. GOP has control now.

[Anonymous]

Report is done. Senate has it. No new bombshells.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

This cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.

Most people probably would come out swinging. But most people aren’t federal Judges. I was a federal law clerk. And the stepped up Hatch Act provisions and ethical rules Judges (and their clerks in terms of the Hatch Act) agree to live under are oppressive. Your political activity is limited to voting. No yard signs. No car magnets. No donating money. No expressing a political opinion in public. Clean social media. Financial disclosures for judges. Recusals if it could appear you could not be impartial. My judge had to recuse because my DH had an ownership interest in a company that he was scheduled to hear in his court. When I left, My cases at my next job had to be screened to make sure they had not appeared before my judge while I was there. Lawyers all take an ethics class in law school, a seperate ethics bar, and have ongoing ethics training. This stuff is taken very seriously.

So yeah. Most people woukd come out swinging. But what you don’t get is most people are not trying to be a Supreme Court Justice. If he really could not control himself, he has no business being seated.

Ethics? Rules? Laws? Ancient history. GOP has control now.

I hope Sessions cleans house.

Seems to me a bunch of liberal idiots were arrested today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear: I don't really care how much Kavanaugh drank in the early 80s. I don't care whether or not he puked it up, threw ice, or said crass things about girls then either.

The ONLY reason it was even brought up in the hearing, was to try and imply that Kavanaugh could have gotten blackout drunk and assault Ford. It was ruse to sow doubt, and to try and get him to admit he was a choir boy, which he didn't do.

Ford, on the other hand, got to tell her story in a formal hearing in front of the whole world, was questioned by an expert in the field, and determined to not have enough detail or information to be deemed credible in her accusations against Kavanaugh.

Meanwhile, highly laughable individuals have come forward to take their turn at bat, one admitting she was wholly drunk and could not be sure herself, and the other with a sketchy history of lies, who backtracked on her own story.

And the latest is more of the same. And is making Democrats seem completely unhinged.

Let me repeat: I don't give one rat's a$$ about his high school years. Not one iota.

Absolutely, 100% agree. I would be mortified to be associated with the Democratic party right now. What a bunch of utter morons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

You are right. I should have taken the time to write a proper post. It would be the most profound mistake to confirm him. I cannot see how it cold be allowed. The damage would be profound and irreversible. Kavanaugh would continue to be a problem on the Court.

I do not agree. Giving in to this type of terrorism from the left only breeds more.

Two wrongs do not make it right. Nomination of clean conservative judge is not giving in to the left. It's standing by the rule of law.

Clean conservative judge? LOLOL. Where are they in the left's mind? There are none. The only clean conservative judge to a liberal is a liberal judge.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

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I do not agree. Giving in to this type of terrorism from the left only breeds more.

DP. I understand what you're saying and don't disagree with the idea. But you picked a dud. He blew it. That wasn't the Dems' fault. Just his.

Bullsh*t. Democrats launched an absolute smear campaign and you know that which is why you disagree with the idea. I'm glad he behaved the way he did. I wish he had gone full-nuclear, frankly. They deserved it full-stop.

You will do the same to the next one. And the next. And the next. It's what the left has devolved into. It's amoral and reprehensible.

And if the next one is accused of impropriety and manages to keep their composure when dealing with it, the will be promptly seated.

For the legal community, it isn’t about the harassment charge. It’s about his behavior at the hearing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear: I don't really care how much Kavanaugh drank in the early 80s. I don't care whether or not he puked it up, threw ice, or said crass things about girls then either.

The ONLY reason it was even brought up in the hearing, was to try and imply that Kavanaugh could have gotten blackout drunk and assault Ford. It was ruse to sow doubt, and to try and get him to admit he was a choir boy, which he didn't do.

Ford, on the other hand, got to tell her story in a formal hearing in front of the whole world, was questioned by an expert in the field, and determined to not have enough detail or information to be deemed credible in her accusations against Kavanaugh.

Meanwhile, highly laughable individuals have come forward to take their turn at bat, one admitting she was wholly drunk and could not be sure herself, and the other with a sketchy history of lies, who backtracked on her own story.

And the latest is more of the same. And is making Democrats seem completely unhinged.

Let me repeat: I don't give one rat's a$$ about his high school years. Not one iota.

Absolutely, 100% agree. I would be mortified to be associated with the Democratic party right now. What a bunch of utter morons.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Report is done. Senate has it. No new bombshells.

Link?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear: I don't really care how much Kavanaugh drank in the early 80s. I don't care whether or not he puked it up, threw ice, or said crass things about girls then either.

The ONLY reason it was even brought up in the hearing, was to try and imply that Kavanaugh could have gotten blackout drunk and assault Ford. It was ruse to sow doubt, and to try and get him to admit he was a choir boy, which he didn't do.

Ford, on the other hand, got to tell her story in a formal hearing in front of the whole world, was questioned by an expert in the field, and determined to not have enough detail or information to be deemed credible in her accusations against Kavanaugh.

Meanwhile, highly laughable individuals have come forward to take their turn at bat, one admitting she was wholly drunk and could not be sure herself, and the other with a sketchy history of lies, who backtracked on her own story.

And the latest is more of the same. And is making Democrats seem completely unhinged.

Let me repeat: I don't give one rat's a$$ about his high school years. Not one iota.

I don’t care one iota about your rape apologist ranting.

Not the PP, but the fact that you call someone a "rape apologist" simply because they stated the truth about this sham only makes you look even more foolish. You're living up to your stereotype beautifully.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear: I don't really care how much Kavanaugh drank in the early 80s. I don't care whether or not he puked it up, threw ice, or said crass things about girls then either.

The ONLY reason it was even brought up in the hearing, was to try and imply that Kavanaugh could have gotten blackout drunk and assault Ford. It was ruse to sow doubt, and to try and get him to admit he was a choir boy, which he didn't do.

Ford, on the other hand, got to tell her story in a formal hearing in front of the whole world, was questioned by an expert in the field, and determined to not have enough detail or information to be deemed credible in her accusations against Kavanaugh.

Meanwhile, highly laughable individuals have come forward to take their turn at bat, one admitting she was wholly drunk and could not be sure herself, and the other with a sketchy history of lies, who backtracked on her own story.

And the latest is more of the same. And is making Democrats seem completely unhinged.

Let me repeat: I don't give one rat's a$$ about his high school years. Not one iota.

Absolutely, 100% agree. I would be mortified to be associated with the Democratic party right now. What a bunch of utter morons.

Feel the same way about the GOP. Even my uber-conservative in-laws are mortified by Kavanaugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also a very slimy, nasty guy went by "Bart O'Kavanaugh' on a prelaw chat board that is nasty.
No way for us to know if it was Brett Kavanaugh or not.

That was so disgusting.

They can find out if he wrote it if they want to.

It had to be him. Why would someone else in his circle use his name?

I don't think anyone in his circle from gp became a lawyer.

+1 on it had to be him. Considering he put so much focus on Bill Clinton's ejaculate, he seems obsessed with bodily fluids. I would not be surprised one iota if it was him. Not one iota.

We know you wouldn't be. In fact, you're breathlessly hoping it was him. Are you the person who keeps posting a link to that disgusting site? We get it - you're gross. None of the rest of us are interested in reading that drivel. Stop posting it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Report is done. Senate has it. No new bombshells.

Link?

PP read it in the SCIF. Obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

This cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.

Most people probably would come out swinging. But most people aren’t federal Judges. I was a federal law clerk. And the stepped up Hatch Act provisions and ethical rules Judges (and their clerks in terms of the Hatch Act) agree to live under are oppressive. Your political activity is limited to voting. No yard signs. No car magnets. No donating money. No expressing a political opinion in public. Clean social media. Financial disclosures for judges. Recusals if it could appear you could not be impartial. My judge had to recuse because my DH had an ownership interest in a company that he was scheduled to hear in his court. When I left, My cases at my next job had to be screened to make sure they had not appeared before my judge while I was there. Lawyers all take an ethics class in law school, a seperate ethics bar, and have ongoing ethics training. This stuff is taken very seriously.

So yeah. Most people woukd come out swinging. But what you don’t get is most people are not trying to be a Supreme Court Justice. If he really could not control himself, he has no business being seated.

Can you say set-up?

Ford unwilling to turn over therapist's notes to the SJC. These notes were leaked to Post and were referenced by Ford as corroborating her story under oath (though after the fact) to the SJC -- THE CON IS OVER

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Ford unwilling to turn over therapist's notes to the SJC. These notes were leaked to Post and were referenced by Ford as corroborating her story under oath (though after the fact) to the SJC -- THE CON IS OVER

She offered to provide the notes to the FBI but they never showed up to interview her. If she provided them to the SJC, they would immediately be selectively leaked.