Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

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Fair enough

However I think it is obvious that most of those parents would rather stay in the building. ideally, they want a remodel, but if the choice is to either stay with minor repairs or go to Crown, 95% of the Wootton cluster would vote to stay

Again, talk to those advocating and speak up. Stop expecting others to fix the mess you cause.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

Fallsmead rightfully belongs at Richard Montgomery. It's where they need to go for real academic prestige anyways. In the IB program.

Fallsmead is literally across the street from Wootton-for some of the houses they can literally look out their window and see Wootton. You can’t possibly be serious. Fallsmead is very walkable to all 3 of their cluster schools. I live in another neighborhood close by. Of all the schools to be redistricted From Wootton-Fallsmead should be the least likely one.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

Fallsmead rightfully belongs at Richard Montgomery. It's where they need to go for real academic prestige anyways. In the IB program.

Fallsmead is literally across the street from Wootton-for some of the houses they can literally look out their window and see Wootton. You can’t possibly be serious. Fallsmead is very walkable to all 3 of their cluster schools. I live in another neighborhood close by. Of all the schools to be redistricted From Wootton-Fallsmead should be the least likely one.

Well yeah, for now. But once Wootton is moved to Crown then RM will be closer for Fallsmead, and it will make a lot more sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

Fallsmead rightfully belongs at Richard Montgomery. It's where they need to go for real academic prestige anyways. In the IB program.

Fallsmead is literally across the street from Wootton-for some of the houses they can literally look out their window and see Wootton. You can’t possibly be serious. Fallsmead is very walkable to all 3 of their cluster schools. I live in another neighborhood close by. Of all the schools to be redistricted From Wootton-Fallsmead should be the least likely one.

Well yeah, for now. But once Wootton is moved to Crown then RM will be closer for Fallsmead, and it will make a lot more sense.

“once Wootton is moved”. The recommendation doesn’t get made until February 5th. There is a whole lot of advocacy going on. It’s definitely not a done deal. So I think the word you are looking for was IF.

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It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

Again, you created the mess at Wootton, you fix it. Many schools have the same issues. We all pay taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

Again, you created the mess at Wootton, you fix it. Many schools have the same issues. We all pay taxes.

Again, please tell me how parents caused the Wootton building to be in disrepair. And “many” schools are not as bad as Wootton. 1 is-per the actual data. Many isn’t 1.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

So Wootton families took Wootton off the CIP on three (3) separate occasions. MCPS cooked up Option H because it wanted to fix its mistake in accepting land with a 20-year revert back clause and relying on pre-COVID enrollment projections in deciding to break ground to avoid losing that land?

Wootton families didn’t create that mess. MCPS did that all by itself. MCPS can avoid compounding its mistakes by giving Crown to the Gaithersburg kids to which it was promised and use any excess capacity as a holding school for the next 10 years while it does proper due diligence and enrollment catches up from all the surrounding developments.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

Again, you created the mess at Wootton, you fix it. Many schools have the same issues. We all pay taxes.

This is the most unreasonable troll in the thread

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

Again, you created the mess at Wootton, you fix it. Many schools have the same issues. We all pay taxes.

Again, please tell me how parents caused the Wootton building to be in disrepair. And “many” schools are not as bad as Wootton. 1 is-per the actual data. Many isn’t 1.

Correct. MCPS took Wootton off the CIP 3 times. In the meantime, it built a brand new school in a highly congested area using faulty enrollment numbers. Maybe it always thought it could break up Wootton, but didn’t expect the massive pushback it’s getting now. MCPS has painted itself into a corner here, but that’s not the fault of Wootton families, no matter how much a couple of trolls on this thread want it to be.

The Wootton families pushing for a full renovation have calmed down. There’s no material dissension among Wootton families. Stop claiming there is.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

Again, you created the mess at Wootton, you fix it. Many schools have the same issues. We all pay taxes.

Again, please tell me how parents caused the Wootton building to be in disrepair. And “many” schools are not as bad as Wootton. 1 is-per the actual data. Many isn’t 1.

Correct. MCPS took Wootton off the CIP 3 times. In the meantime, it built a brand new school in a highly congested area using faulty enrollment numbers. Maybe it always thought it could break up Wootton, but didn’t expect the massive pushback it’s getting now. MCPS has painted itself into a corner here, but that’s not the fault of Wootton families, no matter how much a couple of trolls on this thread want it to be.

The Wootton families pushing for a full renovation have calmed down. There’s no material dissension among Wootton families. Stop claiming there is.

Unless the plan was always going to be for the new school to be a holding school for schools that needed renovation (which it wasn’t) it shouldn’t have been built. How do you justify building a brand new school when others are quite literally falling apart?

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

Again, you created the mess at Wootton, you fix it. Many schools have the same issues. We all pay taxes.

Again, please tell me how parents caused the Wootton building to be in disrepair. And “many” schools are not as bad as Wootton. 1 is-per the actual data. Many isn’t 1.

There isn’t data on every school.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's picture a world where major league baseball was a not for profit organization. Everything would be done for the good of the game only. in this scenario, the league would have even more incentive to preserve successful teams like the Yankees and their legacy.

It is not in the best interests of MCPS to "Disappear" one of their most successful schools. It lowers the overall quality of the school system.

We at Wootton are not entitled. Let someone else have the new building. Giving it to us would be taking from those who need the new building more. We are fine where we are with minor repairs.

People will accuse Wootton of being entitled no matter what. Take the crown, you’re entitled.” Refuse to move, you’re entitled.” Apparently, simply existing as a successful high school in MoCo is enough to be labeled wrong

haven't see a post that states: "If Wootton parents get Crown, they are entitled."

They exist. And there was a whole video of kids from Gaithersburg presented to MCPS saying don’t take our school. Wootton families done want Crown, Gaithersburg families do. Why are people on this thread forcing something that the most affected people DON’T want? Option H doesn’t make the most sense when you consider it from their perspective.

“But it’s for the good of MCPS” and “MCPS can’t afford to fix Wootton”. Neither of these is true. Erasing a proven, top performing school with one that might, someday (unlikely) reach that same level of achievement isn’t in the best interests of MCPS as a whole. Likewise, MCPS can afford remediation of Wootton (not a full renovation). Do a zero base budgeting exercise within MCPS and suddenly tens of millions of dollars will be found.

Doesn't H send both Gaithersburg and Wootton families to Crown? (Obviously not 100% of Gaithersburg families to Crown, but no option would.). Seems pretty win-win to me.

Only the richest part of Gaithersburg and very few people in Gaithersburg would benefit from it as Wootton would take away majority of the seats. Gaithersburg high will be less diverse too with the richest area leaving.

Oh weird, I thought from all the Wootton folks complaining that it was poor kids from Gaithersburg that would be going to the new Wootton (Crown) under option H. Are Wootton families just that elitist that they can't stand any families that aren't super rich?

No, crown people are super rich. Certainly richer than most of Wootton. Wootton doesn’t have that many 2 million dollars single family houses and 1 million townhouses. But crown does. I’m not sure who’s more elitist. But that doesn’t mean they are ok with moving. You can’t dismiss all the valid points on wanting to keep Wootton on Wootton parkway

You're being disingenuous. Yes, there are some very expensive homes in Crown, just like there are some very expensive homes in Wootton's current boundaries. Overall, the median income of people that moved into Wootton at Crown from Gaithersburg would be lower than current Wootton's median income. I'm sure you know that.

Right but everyone sometimes has to deal with boundary changes that slightly change their median income, that's just life and doesn't really a meaningful impact on most people/schools most of the time. Wootton people have been talking about how option H boundaries would radically change the nature of Wootton, which mostly only happens when you add hundreds of FARMS kids to a school, so that's what I assumed was happening. Is that not right? If it's just a mild increase in FARMS rates/decrease in average income, who cares?

Holy crap. I just went to look it up myself and option H changes Wootton from 14.0% FARMS to 14.8% FARMS. That is what they are freaking out about? What the heck is wrong with those people?

That percentage is accounting for fields road as well? I am asking because if H does go through there is no way it’s going through without that school added.

It does not include Fields Road. And yes, I agree Fields Road would be added. There's enough excess capacity in Crown/Wootton to add them.

Okay, it's kind of crazy to oppose option H because of a boundary change that isn't even in option H. But even if they added Fields Road, that would bump up the Wootton FARMS rate from 14% to like 19% or so. In a county where the average FARMS rate is 43%.

Adding fields road will make it overcrowded. Other than I have no problem of adding them. The remaining space is only enough for either crown or fields road and not even counting the new development

Look again at the enrollment numbers.

Sorry, I counted wrong. You're right. It would be about 200 over.

I'm sure could move some from Wootton over into GHS to make room for Field Rd.

Or, more seriously, the western part of Wootton could go to QO.

You want Wootton families to support adding fields road by rezoning themselves out?

No, I want the BoE to make sensible a decision regardless of Wootton's temper tantruming.

You need to advocate for your school and kids! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

Make sure you are loud-write letters, make signs, attend meetings! Unless you are Wootton-then you have to keep your mouth shut.

The squeakiest wheel gets the oil! Unless you are Wootton then you are not allowed to talk about problems because other people also have problems.

In closing-Wootton can’t ever ask for anything because it makes them look entitled. So if they do ask they should get punished.

Why do you expect us to fix the mess you created? You are not offering any alternative solutions, just complaining.

oh parents created the mess???? No-parents have been paying their taxes and mcps has been spending money on boundary studies and other nonsense instead of maintaining its schools. How could you possibly blame the school’s condition on the parents?

Again, you created the mess at Wootton, you fix it. Many schools have the same issues. We all pay taxes.

Again, please tell me how parents caused the Wootton building to be in disrepair. And “many” schools are not as bad as Wootton. 1 is-per the actual data. Many isn’t 1.

Correct. MCPS took Wootton off the CIP 3 times. In the meantime, it built a brand new school in a highly congested area using faulty enrollment numbers. Maybe it always thought it could break up Wootton, but didn’t expect the massive pushback it’s getting now. MCPS has painted itself into a corner here, but that’s not the fault of Wootton families, no matter how much a couple of trolls on this thread want it to be.

The Wootton families pushing for a full renovation have calmed down. There’s no material dissension among Wootton families. Stop claiming there is.

And, they are offering you that new school.