Missing college student in the Dominican Republic from Ashburn

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Karens worry that their sons are the same. Defend this pervert!!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

Per Ribe, her friend texted Carter Johnson looking for her. Since Ribe was not back at that point, they and CJ likely believed they were together. When Ribe returned alone and heard that the girl he says he had not seen for hours had not returned, at 10am he at least knew she was missing. We don’t know what he told CJ since he did not answer that LE question. We know he did not communicate that to friends, resort or LE. Friends had to deduce she was missing when returned at 4.

Why? Who benefits from delayed search? What was in his pocket that was not a phone or key?

All the detail about his arm on her neck could be trying to get a story out if she is found with bruising on her throat.

A normal person in real time would not ASSUME she was missing – you would assume she got back to her room or wherever after the friends left on their excursion. Why would anyone's mind go to that extreme? – she's drowned! She's abducted! She had a heart attack from a congenital heart defect! At the time that would be slightly crazy dramatic thinking.

+1

So very much this. It was a reasonable assumption. Far more reasonable than assuming she had drowned or been murdered or anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There are videos from the bar not long before when she appears so intoxicated she’s vomiting. She also appears to be walking very unsteadily in the video as she enters the beach

Date rape drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:The unhinged racist anti-white posters would still blame the boy if he drowned and died along with the girl.

I am one of the PP definitely not not anti - white. I do not like victim shaming though.

She's a victim of her own choices though. Accidents happen, and while tragic, aren't illegal.

Right, because reducing a tragic situation to 'just an accident' is such a nuanced take. But hey, why bother with empathy when you can just blame the victim, right?

Everyone is a victim when they suffer consequences. Two victims in this story.

reducing everything to ‘just an accident’ is definitely the most insightful approach. But hey, who needs empathy or the full picture when you can just blame the victim and ignore the actual facts? As for your 'two victims' take, one of them is in police custody for a reason. Maybe it's time to consider who's really responsible here

What “actual facts” are being ignored here?

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There are videos from the bar not long before when she appears so intoxicated she’s vomiting. She also appears to be walking very unsteadily in the video as she enters the beach

Thanks for the 165 page recap. AGAIN

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There are videos from the bar not long before when she appears so intoxicated she’s vomiting. She also appears to be walking very unsteadily in the video as she enters the beach

It’s important to focus on the fact that she’s missing, and there’s a person of interest in this case—someone who was with her at the beach. Whether she had been drinking or not doesn’t change the fact that she was put in a vulnerable situation. The priority should be understanding what happened, especially given the circumstances and the involvement of someone who’s now under investigation. The real questions are about what led to her being in that position, not just assumptions about her actions

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

Per Ribe, her friend texted Carter Johnson looking for her. Since Ribe was not back at that point, they and CJ likely believed they were together. When Ribe returned alone and heard that the girl he says he had not seen for hours had not returned, at 10am he at least knew she was missing. We don’t know what he told CJ since he did not answer that LE question. We know he did not communicate that to friends, resort or LE. Friends had to deduce she was missing when returned at 4.

Why? Who benefits from delayed search? What was in his pocket that was not a phone or key?

All the detail about his arm on her neck could be trying to get a story out if she is found with bruising on her throat.

A normal person in real time would not ASSUME she was missing – you would assume she got back to her room or wherever after the friends left on their excursion. Why would anyone's mind go to that extreme? – she's drowned! She's abducted! She had a heart attack from a congenital heart defect! At the time that would be slightly crazy dramatic thinking.

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So very much this. It was a reasonable assumption. Far more reasonable than assuming she had drowned or been murdered or anything else.

Sure, assuming she just made it back to her room might seem reasonable at first, but the situation changed when she didn’t turn up. At that point, ‘reasonable’ isn’t about assuming everything is fine—it’s about recognizing when something’s off and trying to piece the situation together. It’s not ‘crazy dramatic’ to be concerned when someone’s missing, especially in a foreign place. The reality is, things don’t always go as expected, and when they don’t, it’s important to ask the right questions, not dismiss potential risks

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There are videos from the bar not long before when she appears so intoxicated she’s vomiting. She also appears to be walking very unsteadily in the video as she enters the beach

Date rape drugs.

Sure, it could be. It could also be that she just plain drank way too much.

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There are videos from the bar not long before when she appears so intoxicated she’s vomiting. She also appears to be walking very unsteadily in the video as she enters the beach

Date rape drugs.

The guy was also puking, at the bar, for much longer.

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There are videos from the bar not long before when she appears so intoxicated she’s vomiting. She also appears to be walking very unsteadily in the video as she enters the beach

Date rape drugs.

OMG he wasn't with them the entire night.

Zero personal responsibility

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

Per Ribe, her friend texted Carter Johnson looking for her. Since Ribe was not back at that point, they and CJ likely believed they were together. When Ribe returned alone and heard that the girl he says he had not seen for hours had not returned, at 10am he at least knew she was missing. We don’t know what he told CJ since he did not answer that LE question. We know he did not communicate that to friends, resort or LE. Friends had to deduce she was missing when returned at 4.

Why? Who benefits from delayed search? What was in his pocket that was not a phone or key?

All the detail about his arm on her neck could be trying to get a story out if she is found with bruising on her throat.

A normal person in real time would not ASSUME she was missing – you would assume she got back to her room or wherever after the friends left on their excursion. Why would anyone's mind go to that extreme? – she's drowned! She's abducted! She had a heart attack from a congenital heart defect! At the time that would be slightly crazy dramatic thinking.

+1

So very much this. It was a reasonable assumption. Far more reasonable than assuming she had drowned or been murdered or anything else.

Sure, assuming she just made it back to her room might seem reasonable at first, but the situation changed when she didn’t turn up. At that point, ‘reasonable’ isn’t about assuming everything is fine—it’s about recognizing when something’s off and trying to piece the situation together. It’s not ‘crazy dramatic’ to be concerned when someone’s missing, especially in a foreign place. The reality is, things don’t always go as expected, and when they don’t, it’s important to ask the right questions, not dismiss potential risks

And it just so happens that is exactly how the friends handled this. It seemed reasonable she wasn’t around in the AM, but when she hadn’t turned up by the time they got back from the outing, they were rightly alarmed & reported the situation.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went out with my girlfriends in college we always had a pact to watch each other’s backs and we all left together. Always. Period. And that was before cellphones!

I can’t imagine letting my girlfriend get blackout throw-up drunk and letting her leave with a man we just met. And then shrugging off that she was missing the next morning? No, just no. Those are terrible friends.

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And seems like really weird behavior since “friends of the friends“ say they’re all “nice good girls“. Nice good girls would be alarmed if their friend were unable to be found after last being seen with a stranger on a beach at 5 AM. They certainly would not go off on a boat excursion because her friends behavior would be uncharacteristic.

I actually think they were just a little naive. I mean, who immediately thinks their friend is dead in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean at ~8am when they are loading onto the bus? I'm sure by the time (lunch time? IDK) they realized she hadn't woken up and gone to the front desk asking for a key and getting access to her phone, and they couldn't get ahold of her, they started to freak out.

“Just a little naive”???

yes no one has it all figured out while in college as a 20 year old.

Doctors of tomorrow. God help us all.

More like Medicare and Medicaid scammers of tomorrow.

Guess you're just jealous they are learning how to actually help people, while you’re stuck being an expert in complaining.

Oh the irony! Learning to help people? When it really mattered, they didn’t do an effing thing.

+1. In a decade they’ll prob be preying on people scheduling unnecessary surgeries and writing bogus prescriptions.

Right, because nothing says 'expert opinion' like predicting the future based on pure bitterness. I guess you’re already working on your crystal ball, huh

None of my girlfriends died or were assaulted in college. Because we genuinely care about each other.

So someone being SA in college is because their friends didn't care about them? I think not.
Try again with that statement.

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Anonymous wrote:Karens worry that their sons are the same. Defend this pervert!!

to be fair we also worry our daughter is the same. Don't parents worry about both scenarios?

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There are videos from the bar not long before when she appears so intoxicated she’s vomiting. She also appears to be walking very unsteadily in the video as she enters the beach

Date rape drugs.

Sure, it could be. It could also be that she just plain drank way too much.

Sure, it could be that she drank too much, but it’s also important not to jump to conclusions and rule out other possibilities, especially when there’s a pattern of risk factors involved. The reality is, date rape drugs do happen, and it’s not 'dramatic' to consider them as a possibility when something’s clearly wrong. Ignoring that potential risks anyone else in a similar situation

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Anonymous wrote:The group rate becomes cheaper the more people you bring, so a core group of ruthless mean girls will invite a non-core cousin or gal they know from the dorms just to make everyone else’s costs lower. Happens a lot. The core group of gals clearly couldn’t have cared less about this gal.

or they just panicked and left as scheduled.

Look at the Idaho roommates. They did nothing for 12 hours, even though they saw and heard things.

Yeah the Idaho roommates behavior didn’t make sense to me either.

Really drunk people behave in nonsensical ways