Missing college student in the Dominican Republic from Ashburn

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Anonymous wrote:When I went out with my girlfriends in college we always had a pact to watch each other’s backs and we all left together. Always. Period. And that was before cellphones!

I can’t imagine letting my girlfriend get blackout throw-up drunk and letting her leave with a man we just met. And then shrugging off that she was missing the next morning? No, just no. Those are terrible friends.

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And seems like really weird behavior since “friends of the friends“ say they’re all “nice good girls“. Nice good girls would be alarmed if their friend were unable to be found after last being seen with a stranger on a beach at 5 AM. They certainly would not go off on a boat excursion because her friends behavior would be uncharacteristic.

I actually think they were just a little naive. I mean, who immediately thinks their friend is dead in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean at ~8am when they are loading onto the bus? I'm sure by the time (lunch time? IDK) they realized she hadn't woken up and gone to the front desk asking for a key and getting access to her phone, and they couldn't get ahold of her, they started to freak out.

“Just a little naive”???

yes no one has it all figured out while in college as a 20 year old.

Doctors of tomorrow. God help us all.

More like Medicare and Medicaid scammers of tomorrow.

Guess you're just jealous they are learning how to actually help people, while you’re stuck being an expert in complaining.

Who doesn’t dream of being “helped” by a doctor who let their blackout drunk “friend” die on a beach during college. This reads like they were hazing her and peer-pressured her to get alcohol poisoning. Why did they have her phone? Why weren’t they watching her back? Why didn’t they care the next morning?

Oh, I see, so you’re the expert in what ‘really matters.’ Tell me, how’s that working out for you? Must be exhausting being the self-appointed judge of everyone else’s actions.

It doesn’t take an expert to know that your friend’s well-being matters more than a boat excursion in the Dominican Republic. It doesn’t take an expert to know that you don’t leave your friend alone with a stranger when she’s been drinking for 12+ hours in a foreign country.

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Anonymous wrote:The unhinged racist anti-white posters would still blame the boy if he drowned and died along with the girl.

I am one of the PP definitely not not anti - white. I do not like victim shaming though.

She's a victim of her own choices though. Accidents happen, and while tragic, aren't illegal.

OR the boy took advantage of her.

he was as intoxicated as she was, if not more

No one has reported any malicious behavior to state otherwise

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The unhinged racist anti-white posters would still blame the boy if he drowned and died along with the girl.

I am one of the PP definitely not not anti - white. I do not like victim shaming though.

She's a victim of her own choices though. Accidents happen, and while tragic, aren't illegal.

Right, because reducing a tragic situation to 'just an accident' is such a nuanced take. But hey, why bother with empathy when you can just blame the victim, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The group rate becomes cheaper the more people you bring, so a core group of ruthless mean girls will invite a non-core cousin or gal they know from the dorms just to make everyone else’s costs lower. Happens a lot. The core group of gals clearly couldn’t have cared less about this gal.

or they just panicked and left as scheduled.

Look at the Idaho roommates. They did nothing for 12 hours, even though they saw and heard things.

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Anonymous wrote:The unhinged racist anti-white posters would still blame the boy if he drowned and died along with the girl.

I am one of the PP definitely not not anti - white. I do not like victim shaming though.

She's a victim of her own choices though. Accidents happen, and while tragic, aren't illegal.

OR the boy took advantage of her.

he was as intoxicated as she was, if not more

No one has reported any malicious behavior to state otherwise

mutual intoxication is the perfect excuse for poor decisions. But I guess it’s easier to pretend everything was fine than to consider the complexity of the situation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unhinged racist anti-white posters would still blame the boy if he drowned and died along with the girl.

I am one of the PP definitely not not anti - white. I do not like victim shaming though.

She's a victim of her own choices though. Accidents happen, and while tragic, aren't illegal.

Right, because reducing a tragic situation to 'just an accident' is such a nuanced take. But hey, why bother with empathy when you can just blame the victim, right?

Everyone is a victim when they suffer consequences. Two victims in this story.

[Anonymous]

How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

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Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

Yes that was reported by multiple people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The group rate becomes cheaper the more people you bring, so a core group of ruthless mean girls will invite a non-core cousin or gal they know from the dorms just to make everyone else’s costs lower. Happens a lot. The core group of gals clearly couldn’t have cared less about this gal.

or they just panicked and left as scheduled.

Look at the Idaho roommates. They did nothing for 12 hours, even though they saw and heard things.

Yeah the Idaho roommates behavior didn’t make sense to me either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There’s literally video of her puking in the hotel bar before they went down to the beach.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went out with my girlfriends in college we always had a pact to watch each other’s backs and we all left together. Always. Period. And that was before cellphones!

I can’t imagine letting my girlfriend get blackout throw-up drunk and letting her leave with a man we just met. And then shrugging off that she was missing the next morning? No, just no. Those are terrible friends.

+1

And seems like really weird behavior since “friends of the friends“ say they’re all “nice good girls“. Nice good girls would be alarmed if their friend were unable to be found after last being seen with a stranger on a beach at 5 AM. They certainly would not go off on a boat excursion because her friends behavior would be uncharacteristic.

I actually think they were just a little naive. I mean, who immediately thinks their friend is dead in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean at ~8am when they are loading onto the bus? I'm sure by the time (lunch time? IDK) they realized she hadn't woken up and gone to the front desk asking for a key and getting access to her phone, and they couldn't get ahold of her, they started to freak out.

“Just a little naive”???

yes no one has it all figured out while in college as a 20 year old.

Doctors of tomorrow. God help us all.

More like Medicare and Medicaid scammers of tomorrow.

Guess you're just jealous they are learning how to actually help people, while you’re stuck being an expert in complaining.

Oh the irony! Learning to help people? When it really mattered, they didn’t do an effing thing.

+1. In a decade they’ll prob be preying on people scheduling unnecessary surgeries and writing bogus prescriptions.

If they write enough bogus pain pill scripts a pharmacy rep might give them a free trip to the Dominican Republic.

because mocking someone’s credentials and grieving friends is really the best way to handle a missing person's case. It’s impressive how some people always manage to find the most disgusting way to make a tragedy about them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

Per Ribe, her friend texted Carter Johnson looking for her. Since Ribe was not back at that point, they and CJ likely believed they were together. When Ribe returned alone and heard that the girl he says he had not seen for hours had not returned, at 10am he at least knew she was missing. We don’t know what he told CJ since he did not answer that LE question. We know he did not communicate that to friends, resort or LE. Friends had to deduce she was missing when returned at 4.

Why? Who benefits from delayed search? What was in his pocket that was not a phone or key?

All the detail about his arm on her neck could be trying to get a story out if she is found with bruising on her throat.

A normal person in real time would not ASSUME she was missing – you would assume she got back to her room or wherever after the friends left on their excursion. Why would anyone's mind go to that extreme? – she's drowned! She's abducted! She had a heart attack from a congenital heart defect! At the time that would be slightly crazy dramatic thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When I went out with my girlfriends in college we always had a pact to watch each other’s backs and we all left together. Always. Period. And that was before cellphones!

I can’t imagine letting my girlfriend get blackout throw-up drunk and letting her leave with a man we just met. And then shrugging off that she was missing the next morning? No, just no. Those are terrible friends.

+1

And seems like really weird behavior since “friends of the friends“ say they’re all “nice good girls“. Nice good girls would be alarmed if their friend were unable to be found after last being seen with a stranger on a beach at 5 AM. They certainly would not go off on a boat excursion because her friends behavior would be uncharacteristic.

I actually think they were just a little naive. I mean, who immediately thinks their friend is dead in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean at ~8am when they are loading onto the bus? I'm sure by the time (lunch time? IDK) they realized she hadn't woken up and gone to the front desk asking for a key and getting access to her phone, and they couldn't get ahold of her, they started to freak out.

“Just a little naive”???

yes no one has it all figured out while in college as a 20 year old.

Doctors of tomorrow. God help us all.

More like Medicare and Medicaid scammers of tomorrow.

Guess you're just jealous they are learning how to actually help people, while you’re stuck being an expert in complaining.

Who doesn’t dream of being “helped” by a doctor who let their blackout drunk “friend” die on a beach during college. This reads like they were hazing her and peer-pressured her to get alcohol poisoning. Why did they have her phone? Why weren’t they watching her back? Why didn’t they care the next morning?

Oh, I see, so you’re the expert in what ‘really matters.’ Tell me, how’s that working out for you? Must be exhausting being the self-appointed judge of everyone else’s actions.

It doesn’t take an expert to know that your friend’s well-being matters more than a boat excursion in the Dominican Republic. It doesn’t take an expert to know that you don’t leave your friend alone with a stranger when she’s been drinking for 12+ hours in a foreign country.

of course, you're the authority on what ‘really matters’ now. Must be nice to have all the answers while others are dealing with real-life consequences. But hey, you’re right, it’s so much easier to sit back and judge instead of showing any real concern. And as for the rest, maybe it’s just common sense that a friend’s safety comes first, especially after a long night out. But then again, I guess we’re all experts in hindsight, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do we know for sure she was highly intoxicated? We know Riibe was from his own account. But did her friends tell the police/fbi that she was drunk too? Just because she was at the bar doesn’t mean she was drinking heavily. Lots of assumptions here.
Strong currents are dangerous whether or not one is drunk. People drown during the daytime too.

There are videos from the bar not long before when she appears so intoxicated she’s vomiting. She also appears to be walking very unsteadily in the video as she enters the beach

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unhinged racist anti-white posters would still blame the boy if he drowned and died along with the girl.

I am one of the PP definitely not not anti - white. I do not like victim shaming though.

She's a victim of her own choices though. Accidents happen, and while tragic, aren't illegal.

Right, because reducing a tragic situation to 'just an accident' is such a nuanced take. But hey, why bother with empathy when you can just blame the victim, right?

Everyone is a victim when they suffer consequences. Two victims in this story.

reducing everything to ‘just an accident’ is definitely the most insightful approach. But hey, who needs empathy or the full picture when you can just blame the victim and ignore the actual facts? As for your 'two victims' take, one of them is in police custody for a reason. Maybe it's time to consider who's really responsible here