Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have been keeping quiet out of respect for the families, but since most of this detail is out now, I'm going to share some of what I know.

I have both CB's and BB's number in my phone. I also have telegram on my phone. Telegram has the annoying habit of sending out notifications whenever someone in your contact list joins the app. You have to use a phone number to make an account.

2/19 I got a notification that CB's phone was used to join telegram. I didn't think anything of it at the time.
2/24 Is the last time CB was seen on telegram, which means the app was checked the day of.

I took the following screenshots shortly after everything happened:

https://imgur.com/a/pMDu8ld

This is why I don't believe the prosecutor's story that it was a big conspiracy by BB. He would had to use CB's phone multiple times, including the day of the incident. People don't download encrypted messaging apps, unless they are trying to hide something. And Telegram has disappearing messages, perfect for hiding an affair.

BB's number is also not on Telegram, so if you are going to claim he downloaded the app on her phone, why didn't he test it out on his phone first? If he's planning everything, it would make sense he would test out the app on his phone. Also the telegram app was on her laptop. So he would have had to use both her phone and laptop without her seeing any notifications from the telegram app. Not impossible, but highly unlikely.

So according to some posters here, BB is some incredibly smart techno-mastermind, who also somehow didn't realize that gun purchases require background checks + leave public records, that buying a gun right before shooting someone is extremely suspicious, and that gun ranges keep visitor logs?

I strongly feel there are more simpler and reasonable explanations.
Whatever happened during this tragedy, I think it was unexpected, unplanned, and chaotic. And I don't agree with all the slander and pre-judgement.

Also regarding the phones:
BB pre-orders his new phones, and does this on a regular basis. I remember him showing it off on his birthday. The data and contacts were transferred over. He unlocked that phone for the police.
BB's IRS phone can be unlocked by the IRS if the police request it. BB cannot give the password away.

This is really interesting info thank you.

One thing though- you don't have AP's phone number.... they could be using hers instead of BBs.

He could have even told both women to download the app for safety (or some other reason) in case of emergency.

I actually do. It’s not on telegram either.

Do you still talk to him? What does he tell people?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of adult "shows off" a new phone? That's odd. PP are you saying you saw him on his birthday?

Yes. I stopped by their house with a gift

How many people here give their grown friends birthday gifts? Does this seem weird to anyone else?

Have you been a comfort and support to him as he adjusts to being a widower, PP/neighbor?

[Anonymous]

Do you still talk to him? What does he tell people?

He doesn't talk about the incident. I find out details same as everybody else. Obviously I've asked questions, but he doesn't share that info. I only got a sneak peak at some of the details because I saw the initial search warrant that was left behind by the police and saw the master bedroom after the police released the house. They had cut out the carpet/subfloor and parts of the drywall. So the entire room had to be gutted and refinished.


Have you been a comfort and support to him as he adjusts to being a widower, PP/neighbor?

Not sure what this means, but we're not butt buddies. Also I don't live in the neighborhood.
I did try to support a friend after a tragic incident as much as I could. Afterwards he was pretty depressed/shocked, he didn't sleep much at night, stopped going to the gym, and lost about 20-25 pounds.

I thought he was getting a bit better, then AP got arrested and we all found about that. Then he got depressed again and I was afraid he would actually kill himself. If anything stopped him, it was his daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you still talk to him? What does he tell people?

He doesn't talk about the incident. I find out details same as everybody else. Obviously I've asked questions, but he doesn't share that info. I only got a sneak peak at some of the details because I saw the initial search warrant that was left behind by the police and saw the master bedroom after the police released the house. They had cut out the carpet/subfloor and parts of the drywall. So the entire room had to be gutted and refinished.


Have you been a comfort and support to him as he adjusts to being a widower, PP/neighbor?

Not sure what this means, but we're not butt buddies. Also I don't live in the neighborhood.
I did try to support a friend after a tragic incident as much as I could. Afterwards he was pretty depressed/shocked, he didn't sleep much at night, stopped going to the gym, and lost about 20-25 pounds.

I thought he was getting a bit better, then AP got arrested and we all found about that. Then he got depressed again and I was afraid he would actually kill himself. If anything stopped him, it was his daughter.

Thank you!! When you asked questions, what does he say exactly?

Oh, so the bedroom was remodeled… interesting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you still talk to him? What does he tell people?

He doesn't talk about the incident. I find out details same as everybody else. Obviously I've asked questions, but he doesn't share that info. I only got a sneak peak at some of the details because I saw the initial search warrant that was left behind by the police and saw the master bedroom after the police released the house. They had cut out the carpet/subfloor and parts of the drywall. So the entire room had to be gutted and refinished.


Have you been a comfort and support to him as he adjusts to being a widower, PP/neighbor?

Not sure what this means, but we're not butt buddies. Also I don't live in the neighborhood.
I did try to support a friend after a tragic incident as much as I could. Afterwards he was pretty depressed/shocked, he didn't sleep much at night, stopped going to the gym, and lost about 20-25 pounds.

I thought he was getting a bit better, then AP got arrested and we all found about that. Then he got depressed again and I was afraid he would actually kill himself. If anything stopped him, it was his daughter.

If you’re not in the neighborhood and you’re not a close friend, why would you have their numbers and why would you stop by to give him a gift?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you still talk to him? What does he tell people?

He doesn't talk about the incident. I find out details same as everybody else. Obviously I've asked questions, but he doesn't share that info. I only got a sneak peak at some of the details because I saw the initial search warrant that was left behind by the police and saw the master bedroom after the police released the house. They had cut out the carpet/subfloor and parts of the drywall. So the entire room had to be gutted and refinished.


Have you been a comfort and support to him as he adjusts to being a widower, PP/neighbor?

Not sure what this means, but we're not butt buddies. Also I don't live in the neighborhood.
I did try to support a friend after a tragic incident as much as I could. Afterwards he was pretty depressed/shocked, he didn't sleep much at night, stopped going to the gym, and lost about 20-25 pounds.

I thought he was getting a bit better, then AP got arrested and we all found about that. Then he got depressed again and I was afraid he would actually kill himself. If anything stopped him, it was his daughter.

If you’re not in the neighborhood and you’re not a close friend, why would you have their numbers and why would you stop by to give him a gift?

Have you been a comfort and support to him as he adjusts to being a widower, PP/neighbor?

I'm pretty sure PP is implying a sexual relationship, because otherwise that's a really weird way to ask that question. And have you found any hobbies yet?

[Anonymous]

Has anyone seen CB’s profile on Fetlife? I have and it certainly raises questions about who wrote it. For instance, there are weird grammatical mistakes and other oddities.

Also, if Christine truly did arrange the meeting with JR, why not meet in a hotel?

And lastly, who brings their child into a home where there is a perceived danger? With a stranger. That is one of the most baffling questions in this case…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One of Joe's previous co-worker posted on the previous thread that Joe had a temper and that he wasn't surprised that he came to such an end. Maybe he got upset that his playtime got interrupted and took it out on CB. If BB initially thought that Joe and CB doing something consensual when he entered the room, he might not have had the gun out or expected Joe to actually stab CB instead of dropping the knife. So Joe actually cuts CB , but it takes a second for BB to realize that it wasn't just more blood-play, then BB pulls his gun and shoots Joe. Or maybe he held her hostage after he got caught. AP then runs into the room and grabs the second gun for her safety, then shoots joe again when he tries to go for the knife again.

3. so there was a standoff at one point when everyone was live and well, then JR decides to start stabbing CB for whatever reason, yet BB the LEO within close range couldn't shoot him quick enough to prevent her being stabbed to practically death? beyond reasonable doubt.

Spot on. JR is going to stab someone with a threat of a gun to his face?

[Anonymous]

For people who think JR killed CB, what would be his motive? He told others about his involvement with this couple and he parked in driveway. No criminal history of violence. Why would he do it?

[Anonymous]

Just thinking out loud here - back in the day before CB was a mom, she was worried about having a baby bc of a blood clotting disorder and she didn’t want to bleed out. Known in our friend group. Ob BB knew that- why would she ever come up with the idea of knife play? The details are here, the prosecutors just need to dig more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just thinking out loud here - back in the day before CB was a mom, she was worried about having a baby bc of a blood clotting disorder and she didn’t want to bleed out. Known in our friend group. Ob BB knew that- why would she ever come up with the idea of knife play? The details are here, the prosecutors just need to dig more.

Came here to say the same thing. I did not know her but I looked at some of her social media photos, and she had posted one of herself with bruises and commented on her bleeding disorder. Hard to believe she would agree to have someone cut her for fun.

So now a man shows up with a knife thinking he is supposed to act out a rape scene. From CBs perspective she is actually being raped, so fights back, and perhaps is stabbed by JR during the struggle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just thinking out loud here - back in the day before CB was a mom, she was worried about having a baby bc of a blood clotting disorder and she didn’t want to bleed out. Known in our friend group. Ob BB knew that- why would she ever come up with the idea of knife play? The details are here, the prosecutors just need to dig more.

Please report this detail to LE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Has anyone seen CB’s profile on Fetlife? I have and it certainly raises questions about who wrote it. For instance, there are weird grammatical mistakes and other oddities.

Also, if Christine truly did arrange the meeting with JR, why not meet in a hotel?

And lastly, who brings their child into a home where there is a perceived danger? With a stranger. That is one of the most baffling questions in this case…

Really? Do you ever watch Dateline, et al? Consideration of the well being of children is not a high priority for malignant narcissist/psychopathic spouses.

If anyone thinks that little girl is getting any top notch parenting at present they are delusional. Quite possibly she never got any to begin with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who has more motive?

A single man who is getting kinky sx on the regular?

A cheating man with a live in girlfriend who just bought a gun and ditched his cell phone?

Exactly. No juror is going to buy that JR left an electronic trail, parked his car in the driveway, then killed a customer. No one.

I think you are wildly underestimating how easily swayed by bias/stupidity many jurors are. As a group smarter than some of the individuals but when you need unanimity it only takes one holdout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Something tells me BB and AP started their relationship after everything. This is from a group of Au pairs. One girl posted asking for friends in the area and Juliana replied saying she lives in Herndon, and loves to go out to bars and dance, asking for the girl’s contact number.

I don’t think she’d propose that if she was in a relationship with Brendan but what are everyone’s thoughts?

https://imgur.com/a/W9RRUlW

Why would she advertise that she was sleeping with her boss to someone she doesn't know? BB had a family do hang with a night, he didn't need his girlfriend there too, so of course she'd want to go out.