Will the WTU illegally strike? Not return on 2/1

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Anonymous wrote:Also CDC published a study that says that schools are low risk with proper precautions. Contact tracing and testing revealed that it was extremely rare for children to spread the virus in school with proper precautions, any rare spread would not contribute significantly to spread in the community, and that rates of covid were lower in schools than on the surrounding community making them relatively safe places: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/covid-19-school-transmission-mitigation-measures/index.html
Given the recent research on masks however, I am sending my children with masks that have several layers. It seems that the mask issue at school should be revisited, because type of mask makes a difference, in particular the number of layers. We are saving the single layer masks for outdoors.

If you actually read the CDC study. It says that inperson dining in restaurants and bars should be closed in order to keep community spread low and keep schools safe to open. People still need to be hounding the mayor about open restaurants

I’m not certain that the CDC recommendations include places like DC. The one that I saw was rural Wisconsin? also, do we really trust that DCPS is implementing these things to keep our kids safe. The data says if, if, if the recommendations are done it can be safe. But do we trust that DCPS is actually following the recommendations?

I don't know if I trust "DCPS," but I trust the teachers and administration at my kid's school.

As far as I could tell from the study, the precautions include mask wearing, cohorting and distancing. All of these things are being done by DCPS. The health screenings at the door and isolaying of sick children that dcps is doing will obviously further contribute to the safety. This study simply echoes many others done on students around the world. New York City reported similar findings. I understand people being concerned, but really think it is time to get back in school any kids that are not doing well with DL.

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Can anyone provide further info about the PERB complaint? Google is failing me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thought this entry would roll out smoothly was kidding themselves. It was and will be messy. And that is why it must happen. Think of it like jumping into a pool. At first it is a shock to the system and then everyone adjusts.

Those without a tolerance for ambiguity need not apply to take an in person spot.

I will also say that is is ESSENTIAL that we do this now- messiness and all. My kids are in MCPS and I fully aware that if they do not open this winter/spring we will be virtual again next fall.

The band=aid needs to be ripoed off. It will not get easier with the passing of time.

This! I keep saying that the longer DCPS allows schools to not fully reopen, the harder it's going to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg it is safe. How many of you have those “I believe in science” signs at your home?
This is science: schools are safe.

Are you going to tell that to my friend's family member who died bringing home covid? Or the teachers who died?
Your kid isn't worth that. The teachers at private catholic schools have sold their souls to 'Jesus' so they don't care about the chance of death.

I'm in person but any kid who has a runny nose I haven't hesitated to put them in our quarantine room, it has made some parents angry but you shouldn't be sending your runny nosed and sneezing kid, until they test negative and even then I'd rather you wait.

I hate DL so I'm back but don't you dare say it's 'safe,' when some parents don't even social distance outside of school, or heck some crazy teachers! When parents STILL try to send their kids in sick...

Of course parents are annoyed with you. DCPS’s agreements list symptoms include “cough, fever, headache, new loss of taste or smell, repeated shaking with chills, sore throat, shortness of breath, and muscle pain.”

Neither runny nose nor sneezing are considered meaningful symptoms by themselves.

But, sure, go ahead and make up your own diagnosis. Maybe you could go ahead and send the short kids to the quarantine room along with the allergy sufferers.

Don't give AF, I will. I have had positive cases in my classroom. Maybe you should practice what you preach and social distance, instead of traveling for Winter break.
I'm not dying because you are lazy and selfish. BTW we have had a positive case and all they had was a runny nose and a fever, but the fever was lower than what DCPS said isn't acceptable. Only found out it was covid because this parent kindly gave the ok for testing, they thought it was just allergies too. Pffft.

Take several seats because covid doesn't always look like covid, some people react so mildly, while others are on their deathbed sick.

Wow. And you're a teacher? Around half of people with COVID are asymptomatic. That's probably higher in kids under 10. So, completely possible that the runny nose and [non] fever wasn't even related -- it's Winter after all

Agree with the other PP. You dont sound like a nice person.

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Anonymous wrote:THIS quote from the article

“ Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) asked Ferebee and a health official whether there were any coronavirus numbers — such as a high infection rate or weekly virus cases — that would force schools to close.
“I want to reiterate the point that it’s all about what safety measures that are in place to help protect the community,” said Ankoor Shah, a D.C. health official. “I apologize, I do not have a specific number.”


WTF - They don’t have a number!

This!!! We get emails everyday about covid cases at my kids school but actually have no idea how many there are. Active and recovered. Plus there are like 6 kids and 10 adults, how are we getting emails everyday of cases. Sorry folks, I don’t think DCPS will be ready to open and I can’t say it’s because of the WTU. That article clearly makes the case that DCPS doesn’t have a solid plan.


Do you guys trust your school to keep your kids safe? I’m trying to get a pulse on this. Is it really safe. The plan sounds weak. I talked to my kids principal who said the repairs weren’t made in the school for some parts and do they have a great plan where no one goes to that part of the school. I’m not sure I trust a plan from someone who spends 24 million on air purifiers but doesn’t fix the plumbing and HVAc. But maybe that’s crazy. Maybe it is safe.

What do you guys think? Would you send your kid to school if you got the email there were new covid cases the past few days?

These people do not care. They just keep screaming that it's "safe," when in reality they don't care who gets COVID, because they assume their kids are special and won't get it, and if they do get it, they'll be lucky. Whoever they spread it to asymptomatically or presymptomatically? Who cares? They likely won't even have to be bothered with knowing about it.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.

it’s been a WHOLE YEAR with schools closed. They need to reopen.

It’s also been a WHOLE YEAR of living in a pandemic. Don’t forget that part

It’s been a WHOLE YEAR of a pandemic during which rich and Catholic kids have continued to be educated in the classroom, while the rest of the kids have to stay home. Pretty much the only conclusion is that teachers unions and their supporters think public school students deserve less than private & parochial students.

Oh PP, private and Catholic school kids didn’t return to schools this fall because it’s “safe”. They reopened because those school didn’t want to lose out on enrollment and tuition $. Not to mention that have far more safety resources than my EOTR middle school.

Also, also...teachers at charters aren’t unionized. So why are charters closed?

Well, you sort of got some of the pieces of the puzzle, but messed up putting them together. Privates and Catholic schools do feel external market forces so were forced to evaluate the health risks vs the economic risks and figured out how to go back in a limited (health) risk fashion. Public teachers bet the farm that they'd get paid no matter, so didn't have to make the same evaluation, then doubled down in a long term fight between their unions and the school systems. They think they've won but time will tell as bonds and teacher raises come up over the next few years. Charters are harder to peg. They don't want to be obvious about not holding flank with the teachers unions, but some that support more at need populations have found ways to provide more in edge cases.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg it is safe. How many of you have those “I believe in science” signs at your home?
This is science: schools are safe.

Are you going to tell that to my friend's family member who died bringing home covid? Or the teachers who died?
Your kid isn't worth that. The teachers at private catholic schools have sold their souls to 'Jesus' so they don't care about the chance of death.

I'm in person but any kid who has a runny nose I haven't hesitated to put them in our quarantine room, it has made some parents angry but you shouldn't be sending your runny nosed and sneezing kid, until they test negative and even then I'd rather you wait.

I hate DL so I'm back but don't you dare say it's 'safe,' when some parents don't even social distance outside of school, or heck some crazy teachers! When parents STILL try to send their kids in sick...

Of course parents are annoyed with you. DCPS’s agreements list symptoms include “cough, fever, headache, new loss of taste or smell, repeated shaking with chills, sore throat, shortness of breath, and muscle pain.”

Neither runny nose nor sneezing are considered meaningful symptoms by themselves.

But, sure, go ahead and make up your own diagnosis. Maybe you could go ahead and send the short kids to the quarantine room along with the allergy sufferers.

Don't give AF, I will. I have had positive cases in my classroom. Maybe you should practice what you preach and social distance, instead of traveling for Winter break.
I'm not dying because you are lazy and selfish. BTW we have had a positive case and all they had was a runny nose and a fever, but the fever was lower than what DCPS said isn't acceptable. Only found out it was covid because this parent kindly gave the ok for testing, they thought it was just allergies too. Pffft.

Take several seats because covid doesn't always look like covid, some people react so mildly, while others are on their deathbed sick.

Wow. And you're a teacher? Around half of people with COVID are asymptomatic. That's probably higher in kids under 10. So, completely possible that the runny nose and [non] fever wasn't even related -- it's Winter after all

Agree with the other PP. You dont sound like a nice person.

Maybe she is at Brent. You know they have been open for weeks as the showboating poster likes to remind everyone.

Considering all the nasty things said about teachers on this forum...I don’t think anyone should be saying she is not a nice person.

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Anonymous wrote:THIS quote from the article

“ Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) asked Ferebee and a health official whether there were any coronavirus numbers — such as a high infection rate or weekly virus cases — that would force schools to close.
“I want to reiterate the point that it’s all about what safety measures that are in place to help protect the community,” said Ankoor Shah, a D.C. health official. “I apologize, I do not have a specific number.”


WTF - They don’t have a number!

This!!! We get emails everyday about covid cases at my kids school but actually have no idea how many there are. Active and recovered. Plus there are like 6 kids and 10 adults, how are we getting emails everyday of cases. Sorry folks, I don’t think DCPS will be ready to open and I can’t say it’s because of the WTU. That article clearly makes the case that DCPS doesn’t have a solid plan.


Do you guys trust your school to keep your kids safe? I’m trying to get a pulse on this. Is it really safe. The plan sounds weak. I talked to my kids principal who said the repairs weren’t made in the school for some parts and do they have a great plan where no one goes to that part of the school. I’m not sure I trust a plan from someone who spends 24 million on air purifiers but doesn’t fix the plumbing and HVAc. But maybe that’s crazy. Maybe it is safe.

What do you guys think? Would you send your kid to school if you got the email there were new covid cases the past few days?

These people do not care. They just keep screaming that it's "safe," when in reality they don't care who gets COVID, because they assume their kids are special and won't get it, and if they do get it, they'll be lucky. Whoever they spread it to asymptomatically or presymptomatically? Who cares? They likely won't even have to be bothered with knowing about it.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.

it’s been a WHOLE YEAR with schools closed. They need to reopen.

It’s also been a WHOLE YEAR of living in a pandemic. Don’t forget that part

It’s been a WHOLE YEAR of a pandemic during which rich and Catholic kids have continued to be educated in the classroom, while the rest of the kids have to stay home. Pretty much the only conclusion is that teachers unions and their supporters think public school students deserve less than private & parochial students.

Oh PP, private and Catholic school kids didn’t return to schools this fall because it’s “safe”. They reopened because those school didn’t want to lose out on enrollment and tuition $. Not to mention that have far more safety resources than my EOTR middle school.

Also, also...teachers at charters aren’t unionized. So why are charters closed?

Well, you sort of got some of the pieces of the puzzle, but messed up putting them together. Privates and Catholic schools do feel external market forces so were forced to evaluate the health risks vs the economic risks and figured out how to go back in a limited (health) risk fashion. Public teachers bet the farm that they'd get paid no matter, so didn't have to make the same evaluation, then doubled down in a long term fight between their unions and the school systems. They think they've won but time will tell as bonds and teacher raises come up over the next few years. Charters are harder to peg. They don't want to be obvious about not holding flank with the teachers unions, but some that support more at need populations have found ways to provide more in edge cases.

Close. Charters typically follow DCPS on anything that involves liability, such as closing due to ice or snow. That's why most charters haven't reopened. If DCPS fully reopens, then they will too. You're spot on that public school teachers knew they'd get paid whether they return to work or not.

One piece I haven't seen mentioned enough is that private school parents wouldn't put their kids in person if they believed it wasn't safe. It has nothing to do with thinking their kids are too special to get COVID.

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Privates rose to the occasion and put plans in place - exactly as the CDC suggested and as of yesterday, confirmed.
DCPS sat on their hands and Bowser fought with the union. So no school.

WTU will need to dig hard for a new BS excuse not to work in person - the “high community spread” excuse has been shown by CDC NOT to affect schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Privates rose to the occasion and put plans in place - exactly as the CDC suggested and as of yesterday, confirmed.
DCPS sat on their hands and Bowser fought with the union. So no school.

WTU will need to dig hard for a new BS excuse not to work in person - the “high community spread” excuse has been shown by CDC NOT to affect schools.

The way you are framing it is not true. High community spread does effect schools and would expect to see the same percentage of positives that we do in the community. There is a lot of virus going around in the community and it will show in the schools. It just does not spread in schools like it does in the community

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thought this entry would roll out smoothly was kidding themselves. It was and will be messy. And that is why it must happen. Think of it like jumping into a pool. At first it is a shock to the system and then everyone adjusts.

Those without a tolerance for ambiguity need not apply to take an in person spot.

I will also say that is is ESSENTIAL that we do this now- messiness and all. My kids are in MCPS and I fully aware that if they do not open this winter/spring we will be virtual again next fall.

The band=aid needs to be ripoed off. It will not get easier with the passing of time.

This! I keep saying that the longer DCPS allows schools to not fully reopen, the harder it's going to be.

+2. We didn't get a spot at our school, unfortunately, but I am rooting for the kids who did to go back, because it will pave the way for everyone else. Teachers and staff as well as parents need to see it can be done without everyone dropping sick and dying.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone provide further info about the PERB complaint? Google is failing me.

They didn’t file one, instead going straight to arbitration. The WTU site might have a list of the specific MOA violations.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg it is safe. How many of you have those “I believe in science” signs at your home?
This is science: schools are safe.

Are you going to tell that to my friend's family member who died bringing home covid? Or the teachers who died?
Your kid isn't worth that. The teachers at private catholic schools have sold their souls to 'Jesus' so they don't care about the chance of death.

I'm in person but any kid who has a runny nose I haven't hesitated to put them in our quarantine room, it has made some parents angry but you shouldn't be sending your runny nosed and sneezing kid, until they test negative and even then I'd rather you wait.

I hate DL so I'm back but don't you dare say it's 'safe,' when some parents don't even social distance outside of school, or heck some crazy teachers! When parents STILL try to send their kids in sick...

Of course parents are annoyed with you. DCPS’s agreements list symptoms include “cough, fever, headache, new loss of taste or smell, repeated shaking with chills, sore throat, shortness of breath, and muscle pain.”

Neither runny nose nor sneezing are considered meaningful symptoms by themselves.

But, sure, go ahead and make up your own diagnosis. Maybe you could go ahead and send the short kids to the quarantine room along with the allergy sufferers.

Don't give AF, I will. I have had positive cases in my classroom. Maybe you should practice what you preach and social distance, instead of traveling for Winter break.
I'm not dying because you are lazy and selfish. BTW we have had a positive case and all they had was a runny nose and a fever, but the fever was lower than what DCPS said isn't acceptable. Only found out it was covid because this parent kindly gave the ok for testing, they thought it was just allergies too. Pffft.

Take several seats because covid doesn't always look like covid, some people react so mildly, while others are on their deathbed sick.

I for one am totally OK with sending a runny nosed kid to the quarantine room and having them do a rapid test! Isn't that the whole point of testing availability?

Other than that, I don't know where you possibly could teach because we don't have public teachers in person here.

Beyond that, you sound like an awful person and I am glad you're not teaching my kids (since when is it just fine to say nasty things about Catholics?)

Sounds like she should change careers. Bovuous she is selling her soul because she has gone back to teach because she hates DL but doesn’t believe it’s safe. Well then get out of the profession and do something else.

What, you want us to give you a trophy for stepping up with that terrible attitude?

BTW it is safe once you are vaccinated so then get the damn vaccine. Put up or shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg it is safe. How many of you have those “I believe in science” signs at your home?
This is science: schools are safe.

Are you going to tell that to my friend's family member who died bringing home covid? Or the teachers who died?
Your kid isn't worth that. The teachers at private catholic schools have sold their souls to 'Jesus' so they don't care about the chance of death.

I'm in person but any kid who has a runny nose I haven't hesitated to put them in our quarantine room, it has made some parents angry but you shouldn't be sending your runny nosed and sneezing kid, until they test negative and even then I'd rather you wait.

I hate DL so I'm back but don't you dare say it's 'safe,' when some parents don't even social distance outside of school, or heck some crazy teachers! When parents STILL try to send their kids in sick...

Of course parents are annoyed with you. DCPS’s agreements list symptoms include “cough, fever, headache, new loss of taste or smell, repeated shaking with chills, sore throat, shortness of breath, and muscle pain.”

Neither runny nose nor sneezing are considered meaningful symptoms by themselves.

But, sure, go ahead and make up your own diagnosis. Maybe you could go ahead and send the short kids to the quarantine room along with the allergy sufferers.

Don't give AF, I will. I have had positive cases in my classroom. Maybe you should practice what you preach and social distance, instead of traveling for Winter break.
I'm not dying because you are lazy and selfish. BTW we have had a positive case and all they had was a runny nose and a fever, but the fever was lower than what DCPS said isn't acceptable. Only found out it was covid because this parent kindly gave the ok for testing, they thought it was just allergies too. Pffft.

Take several seats because covid doesn't always look like covid, some people react so mildly, while others are on their deathbed sick.

I for one am totally OK with sending a runny nosed kid to the quarantine room and having them do a rapid test! Isn't that the whole point of testing availability?

Other than that, I don't know where you possibly could teach because we don't have public teachers in person here.

Beyond that, you sound like an awful person and I am glad you're not teaching my kids (since when is it just fine to say nasty things about Catholics?)

Sounds like she should change careers. Bovuous she is selling her soul because she has gone back to teach because she hates DL but doesn’t believe it’s safe. Well then get out of the profession and do something else.

What, you want us to give you a trophy for stepping up with that terrible attitude?

BTW it is safe once you are vaccinated so then get the damn vaccine. Put up or shut up.

Did I ask for a trophy white B? And I'm glad I'm not your kids teacher, I really hate you fake european white families, who pretend to care about black and brown ones but sit in your privilege and keep systematic racism in tact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg it is safe. How many of you have those “I believe in science” signs at your home?
This is science: schools are safe.

Are you going to tell that to my friend's family member who died bringing home covid? Or the teachers who died?
Your kid isn't worth that. The teachers at private catholic schools have sold their souls to 'Jesus' so they don't care about the chance of death.

I'm in person but any kid who has a runny nose I haven't hesitated to put them in our quarantine room, it has made some parents angry but you shouldn't be sending your runny nosed and sneezing kid, until they test negative and even then I'd rather you wait.

I hate DL so I'm back but don't you dare say it's 'safe,' when some parents don't even social distance outside of school, or heck some crazy teachers! When parents STILL try to send their kids in sick...

Of course parents are annoyed with you. DCPS’s agreements list symptoms include “cough, fever, headache, new loss of taste or smell, repeated shaking with chills, sore throat, shortness of breath, and muscle pain.”

Neither runny nose nor sneezing are considered meaningful symptoms by themselves.

But, sure, go ahead and make up your own diagnosis. Maybe you could go ahead and send the short kids to the quarantine room along with the allergy sufferers.

Don't give AF, I will. I have had positive cases in my classroom. Maybe you should practice what you preach and social distance, instead of traveling for Winter break.
I'm not dying because you are lazy and selfish. BTW we have had a positive case and all they had was a runny nose and a fever, but the fever was lower than what DCPS said isn't acceptable. Only found out it was covid because this parent kindly gave the ok for testing, they thought it was just allergies too. Pffft.

Take several seats because covid doesn't always look like covid, some people react so mildly, while others are on their deathbed sick.

I for one am totally OK with sending a runny nosed kid to the quarantine room and having them do a rapid test! Isn't that the whole point of testing availability?

Other than that, I don't know where you possibly could teach because we don't have public teachers in person here.

Beyond that, you sound like an awful person and I am glad you're not teaching my kids (since when is it just fine to say nasty things about Catholics?)

Sounds like she should change careers. Bovuous she is selling her soul because she has gone back to teach because she hates DL but doesn’t believe it’s safe. Well then get out of the profession and do something else.

What, you want us to give you a trophy for stepping up with that terrible attitude?

BTW it is safe once you are vaccinated so then get the damn vaccine. Put up or shut up.

Love how NW parents think they know all teachers business and all of DCPS', you don't. There were a handful of teacher who taught in person term 2.

Love how you think people should be happy to go back when it's not safe. GTFO with that BS. NW white people are ridiculous.

Also I don't have to tell you my life story, I went back because I hate DL but the reason I hate DL is because it doesn't work for my wonderful students and parents, who are nothing like the trash that resides on this forum.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg it is safe. How many of you have those “I believe in science” signs at your home?
This is science: schools are safe.

Are you going to tell that to my friend's family member who died bringing home covid? Or the teachers who died?
Your kid isn't worth that. The teachers at private catholic schools have sold their souls to 'Jesus' so they don't care about the chance of death.

I'm in person but any kid who has a runny nose I haven't hesitated to put them in our quarantine room, it has made some parents angry but you shouldn't be sending your runny nosed and sneezing kid, until they test negative and even then I'd rather you wait.

I hate DL so I'm back but don't you dare say it's 'safe,' when some parents don't even social distance outside of school, or heck some crazy teachers! When parents STILL try to send their kids in sick...

Of course parents are annoyed with you. DCPS’s agreements list symptoms include “cough, fever, headache, new loss of taste or smell, repeated shaking with chills, sore throat, shortness of breath, and muscle pain.”

Neither runny nose nor sneezing are considered meaningful symptoms by themselves.

But, sure, go ahead and make up your own diagnosis. Maybe you could go ahead and send the short kids to the quarantine room along with the allergy sufferers.

Don't give AF, I will. I have had positive cases in my classroom. Maybe you should practice what you preach and social distance, instead of traveling for Winter break.
I'm not dying because you are lazy and selfish. BTW we have had a positive case and all they had was a runny nose and a fever, but the fever was lower than what DCPS said isn't acceptable. Only found out it was covid because this parent kindly gave the ok for testing, they thought it was just allergies too. Pffft.

Take several seats because covid doesn't always look like covid, some people react so mildly, while others are on their deathbed sick.

I for one am totally OK with sending a runny nosed kid to the quarantine room and having them do a rapid test! Isn't that the whole point of testing availability?

Other than that, I don't know where you possibly could teach because we don't have public teachers in person here.

Beyond that, you sound like an awful person and I am glad you're not teaching my kids (since when is it just fine to say nasty things about Catholics?)

Sounds like she should change careers. Bovuous she is selling her soul because she has gone back to teach because she hates DL but doesn’t believe it’s safe. Well then get out of the profession and do something else.

What, you want us to give you a trophy for stepping up with that terrible attitude?

BTW it is safe once you are vaccinated so then get the damn vaccine. Put up or shut up.

Did I ask for a trophy white B? And I'm glad I'm not your kids teacher, I really hate you fake european white families, who pretend to care about black and brown ones but sit in your privilege and keep systematic racism in tact.

You sound nice and perfect for working with small children.