Will the WTU illegally strike? Not return on 2/1

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Anonymous wrote:A quick question.

Those parents who want DCPS to open for term 4 for more students how is it going to be possible?

It may be possible at schools where the teacher has 11 kids in person and the rest online. But what about the schools, which I think are the majority whose class sizes when up?

Are you expecting in person teacher A to take on some of virtual teacher B's students?

If so what is the plan for social distancing? That's literally impossible with 24+ students.

FWIW, our principal said the in-person/DL split that goes into effect Monday will be the way things stand for the rest of the school year. There won't be any more kids let in for Term 4.

Your principal has no basis for saying that. S/he might be right in the end, but s/he doesn’t actually have any grounds for believing that if s/he’s DCPS. The Mayor herself has said its undecided.

He said that's what DCPS central office told him.

So I guess our principal is not getting the straight story from central office then, because she is saying they hope to expand IPL for term 4 if OSSE relaxes guidelines.

OSSE won’t reverse them without some kind of major public push. Currently saying they won’t make any change before summer.

What a disgrace that they already say that in such a fluid situation. If teachers are vaccinated and community spread is down, they should relax their guidelines, so kids can go back to school. Why does DCPS insist on handling this emergency in such an inflexible manner, when other countries are making week-by-week decisions?

DCPS =/= OSSE.

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Anonymous wrote:A quick question.

Those parents who want DCPS to open for term 4 for more students how is it going to be possible?

It may be possible at schools where the teacher has 11 kids in person and the rest online. But what about the schools, which I think are the majority whose class sizes when up?

Are you expecting in person teacher A to take on some of virtual teacher B's students?

If so what is the plan for social distancing? That's literally impossible with 24+ students.

FWIW, our principal said the in-person/DL split that goes into effect Monday will be the way things stand for the rest of the school year. There won't be any more kids let in for Term 4.

Your principal has no basis for saying that. S/he might be right in the end, but s/he doesn’t actually have any grounds for believing that if s/he’s DCPS. The Mayor herself has said its undecided.

He said that's what DCPS central office told him.

So I guess our principal is not getting the straight story from central office then, because she is saying they hope to expand IPL for term 4 if OSSE relaxes guidelines.

OSSE won’t reverse them without some kind of major public push. Currently saying they won’t make any change before summer.

What a disgrace that they already say that in such a fluid situation. If teachers are vaccinated and community spread is down, they should relax their guidelines, so kids can go back to school. Why does DCPS insist on handling this emergency in such an inflexible manner, when other countries are making week-by-week decisions?

DCPS =/= OSSE.

Fair enough, but DCPS is being flexible in other ways. In other countries they are pushing the start of the summer back to make up for the lost instruction time - why is that not possible here?

And to rephrase the question, why does DC Health/OSSE being this inflexible? How can they possibly set guidelines and vow not to change them for months, even if circumstances might significantly change?

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

every job with a code of professional ethics, dumb*ss. but thanks for repeatedly demonstrating that you’re not to be trusted.

You know, she’s sort of backed into what’s behind this. Teachers seem to be completely out of touch and believe what they’re doing is no different than anyone else, when in fact it’s shocking to most

Honestly who cares? The fact is most teachers are getting what they believe is safe and fair. I don't believe in equality, this country has never had any.

That’s pretty clear. If there’s something in it for you, I bet your at the head of the line advocating but when you’re the one on the dole you’re happy to keep your mouth shut. And you were just taking shots at bowser for only caring about green? Geez

Oh STFU, I've been teaching in person since term 2, you know nothing. You're just salty because your little NW teachers don't want to return, can't say I blame them.

Why is the union exploiting the concerns of Black and brown families?

Or is the union advocating for its Black teachers who may face a very different reality from yours? Assuming you are an angry white dad trolling DCUM from his Cleveland Park home office?

The PP was talking about the Black and brown families who chose DL because of concerns about covid. Not the Black teachers.

Nothing, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

DP. If your kids will never catch up with their learning, as is likely for many Black and Brown kids, I'd say that qualifies as losing the war.

THIS x 1 million......

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

DP. If your kids will never catch up with their learning, as is likely for many Black and Brown kids, I'd say that qualifies as losing the war.

THIS x 1 million......

Like you give 1 crumb about that, do not act like you do. You don't care. You literally have no idea what you're even talking about, you seriously don't understand that systematic racism and white supremacy don't play a role in why black and brown kids are behind? Seriously? Sure covid will widen the gap a bit but the gap was firmly in place. The issues lie with not only DCPS but DC in general, the US in general. And I'll be candid here and say the issues lie with teachers too, how do you understand, support, help, and teach a student who has seen and/or gone through something beyond your scope of reference or training? How do you get parent buy in from parents who aren't thinking about education but basic needs or going through their own trauma?

Not a one of you have ever once posted on this forum advocating for more support of black and brown families until it was convenient for you to try and use the achievement gap to strengthen your argument about in person school. Even though black families especially are the most afraid. You may say it's irrational but your race wasn't the one experimented on in the past. Some people are very skeptical about the vaccine and how it appeared so quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

DP. If your kids will never catch up with their learning, as is likely for many Black and Brown kids, I'd say that qualifies as losing the war.

THIS x 1 million......

Like you give 1 crumb about that, do not act like you do. You don't care. You literally have no idea what you're even talking about, you seriously don't understand that systematic racism and white supremacy don't play a role in why black and brown kids are behind? Seriously? Sure covid will widen the gap a bit but the gap was firmly in place. The issues lie with not only DCPS but DC in general, the US in general. And I'll be candid here and say the issues lie with teachers too, how do you understand, support, help, and teach a student who has seen and/or gone through something beyond your scope of reference or training? How do you get parent buy in from parents who aren't thinking about education but basic needs or going through their own trauma?

Not a one of you have ever once posted on this forum advocating for more support of black and brown families until it was convenient for you to try and use the achievement gap to strengthen your argument about in person school. Even though black families especially are the most afraid. You may say it's irrational but your race wasn't the one experimented on in the past. Some people are very skeptical about the vaccine and how it appeared so quickly.

I don’t understand comments like the above. If a DCUM poster perceived as white/Ward 3/affluent/etc. appears to be only thinking of his/her own interest, you rail against that as selfish and not thinking of the whole community. If a poster expresses interest in or concern for the wider community, you claim it’s BS and that person doesn’t really care.

You seem to think the worst of everyone and determined to be divisive.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

DP. If your kids will never catch up with their learning, as is likely for many Black and Brown kids, I'd say that qualifies as losing the war.

THIS x 1 million......

Like you give 1 crumb about that, do not act like you do. You don't care. You literally have no idea what you're even talking about, you seriously don't understand that systematic racism and white supremacy don't play a role in why black and brown kids are behind? Seriously? Sure covid will widen the gap a bit but the gap was firmly in place. The issues lie with not only DCPS but DC in general, the US in general. And I'll be candid here and say the issues lie with teachers too, how do you understand, support, help, and teach a student who has seen and/or gone through something beyond your scope of reference or training? How do you get parent buy in from parents who aren't thinking about education but basic needs or going through their own trauma?

Not a one of you have ever once posted on this forum advocating for more support of black and brown families until it was convenient for you to try and use the achievement gap to strengthen your argument about in person school. Even though black families especially are the most afraid. You may say it's irrational but your race wasn't the one experimented on in the past. Some people are very skeptical about the vaccine and how it appeared so quickly.

I don’t understand comments like the above. If a DCUM poster perceived as white/Ward 3/affluent/etc. appears to be only thinking of his/her own interest, you rail against that as selfish and not thinking of the whole community. If a poster expresses interest in or concern for the wider community, you claim it’s BS and that person doesn’t really care.

You seem to think the worst of everyone and determined to be divisive.

Nice way to touch on not even 1 of the points made, except about yourself and your community lol.

And saying you want in person partly because it's hurting black and brown families is a lie because you don't ever address their reasoning as to why, oh except to firmly say they only have an 8th grade education.

And I think the worst of people who specifically use Black and Brown families as a reason, I see some posters don't bring it up but many do. I assume they see that as a good tactic because the WTU has their support. Not realizing this partnership was built long before the pandemic. One of their big slogans was fun our ward 7/8 schools but not a one cared about that before.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

DP. If your kids will never catch up with their learning, as is likely for many Black and Brown kids, I'd say that qualifies as losing the war.

THIS x 1 million......

Like you give 1 crumb about that, do not act like you do. You don't care. You literally have no idea what you're even talking about, you seriously don't understand that systematic racism and white supremacy don't play a role in why black and brown kids are behind? Seriously? Sure covid will widen the gap a bit but the gap was firmly in place. The issues lie with not only DCPS but DC in general, the US in general. And I'll be candid here and say the issues lie with teachers too, how do you understand, support, help, and teach a student who has seen and/or gone through something beyond your scope of reference or training? How do you get parent buy in from parents who aren't thinking about education but basic needs or going through their own trauma?

Not a one of you have ever once posted on this forum advocating for more support of black and brown families until it was convenient for you to try and use the achievement gap to strengthen your argument about in person school. Even though black families especially are the most afraid. You may say it's irrational but your race wasn't the one experimented on in the past. Some people are very skeptical about the vaccine and how it appeared so quickly.

I don’t understand comments like the above. If a DCUM poster perceived as white/Ward 3/affluent/etc. appears to be only thinking of his/her own interest, you rail against that as selfish and not thinking of the whole community. If a poster expresses interest in or concern for the wider community, you claim it’s BS and that person doesn’t really care.

You seem to think the worst of everyone and determined to be divisive.

This poster constantly tries to make everything about race and "systematic" racism, constantly assuming every poster she's arguing with is white and affluent.

The problem, of course, is that it's completely irrelevant whether the PPs care or don't care about Black and Brown kids. Who cares if the PPs care? DCPS should, the WTU and its members should. Accusing posters presumed to be white of not really caring and of "using" the fact that DL is particularly devastating academically to poor minorities does not invalidate the fact that it is. Neither does the fact that systemic racism plays a role in the pre-existing achievement gap. To say that Covid will widen the gap "a bit" is a very optimistic description of what lies ahead.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

DP. If your kids will never catch up with their learning, as is likely for many Black and Brown kids, I'd say that qualifies as losing the war.

THIS x 1 million......

Like you give 1 crumb about that, do not act like you do. You don't care. You literally have no idea what you're even talking about, you seriously don't understand that systematic racism and white supremacy don't play a role in why black and brown kids are behind? Seriously? Sure covid will widen the gap a bit but the gap was firmly in place. The issues lie with not only DCPS but DC in general, the US in general. And I'll be candid here and say the issues lie with teachers too, how do you understand, support, help, and teach a student who has seen and/or gone through something beyond your scope of reference or training? How do you get parent buy in from parents who aren't thinking about education but basic needs or going through their own trauma?

Not a one of you have ever once posted on this forum advocating for more support of black and brown families until it was convenient for you to try and use the achievement gap to strengthen your argument about in person school. Even though black families especially are the most afraid. You may say it's irrational but your race wasn't the one experimented on in the past. Some people are very skeptical about the vaccine and how it appeared so quickly.

I don’t understand comments like the above. If a DCUM poster perceived as white/Ward 3/affluent/etc. appears to be only thinking of his/her own interest, you rail against that as selfish and not thinking of the whole community. If a poster expresses interest in or concern for the wider community, you claim it’s BS and that person doesn’t really care.

You seem to think the worst of everyone and determined to be divisive.

This poster constantly tries to make everything about race and "systematic" racism, constantly assuming every poster she's arguing with is white and affluent.

The problem, of course, is that it's completely irrelevant whether the PPs care or don't care about Black and Brown kids. Who cares if the PPs care? DCPS should, the WTU and its members should. Accusing posters presumed to be white of not really caring and of "using" the fact that DL is particularly devastating academically to poor minorities does not invalidate the fact that it is. Neither does the fact that systemic racism plays a role in the pre-existing achievement gap. To say that Covid will widen the gap "a bit" is a very optimistic description of what lies ahead.

Just being White is enough, you don't go through the same trauma or have to deal with white supremacy and systematic racism.

The issue is you only seem to care when it's convenient. We've been in DL for a year, and DCPS couldn't even send kids manipulatives or anything home to help.

And if I made it seem like I stand with the WTU or DCPS, that's incorrect. I do believe the WTU wants to help teachers but just promoting working remotely doesn't solve the issue. You're right that even though I think it will be small the achievement gap will widen.

To me, everyone is close to being as equally crappy. I just dislike it when people on this forum have a 180 and suddenly throw out words like they care. Zero action.

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Anonymous wrote:If they strike I will never ever support teachers, the union again. This is insane. Over and over, the science shows that schools are not a place of spread. If my kids teacher doesnt show on monday, he will definitely here it from me.

But what will you really do about it? That's the rub. There's nothing parents can truly do to fight back.

Maybe consider asking why they would consider striking and possibly fight that hard to fix the problems at the school. I’m getting sick of all the anger and energy at teachers and Unions but absolutely no energy into having any idea what is actually the problem at these schools. Fight to fix the schools not to demonize people. Geez. Have you even schedule time to do walk throughs, do you have a pulse on what the problems are?

Fight to fix the HVAc! Fix the fact they had to contract out people instead of put a nurse in every school.

I think some of you all just want to be victims snd point at people to be bad guys but put no actual work in listening and fixing the very real
Problems (like mice) that exist in our schools.

why should I fight those things? I think you don’t get it - we don’t trust or respect the union, so we’re not about to rally around their demands.

So your hatred of the union supersedes your student having hot water or a working hvac system. Ok got it. Thanks

my complete lack of respect or faith in the union makes me believe that their demands are bullsh*t that have nothing to do with the interests of kids.

What job puts their clients needs before their own?

Usually it’s the market that aligns things so that meeting the clients needs happens through the need of the business to stay solvent. Obviously that doesn’t happen for public sector services that believe they are too insulated to feel any recourse, which is where we are right now. The question is whether this is an inflection point and changes the playing field for teachers in the future. Too soon to know, but WTU seems to be focused only on the immediate and could win a battle but lose the war

Most Black and Brown parents are on the WTU's side, whose losing the war besides privileged White families? They are making the most noise to reopen fully. And the mayor above all cares about the economy, as in green, not schools.

DP. If your kids will never catch up with their learning, as is likely for many Black and Brown kids, I'd say that qualifies as losing the war.

THIS x 1 million......

Like you give 1 crumb about that, do not act like you do. You don't care. You literally have no idea what you're even talking about, you seriously don't understand that systematic racism and white supremacy don't play a role in why black and brown kids are behind? Seriously? Sure covid will widen the gap a bit but the gap was firmly in place. The issues lie with not only DCPS but DC in general, the US in general. And I'll be candid here and say the issues lie with teachers too, how do you understand, support, help, and teach a student who has seen and/or gone through something beyond your scope of reference or training? How do you get parent buy in from parents who aren't thinking about education but basic needs or going through their own trauma?

Not a one of you have ever once posted on this forum advocating for more support of black and brown families until it was convenient for you to try and use the achievement gap to strengthen your argument about in person school. Even though black families especially are the most afraid. You may say it's irrational but your race wasn't the one experimented on in the past. Some people are very skeptical about the vaccine and how it appeared so quickly.

I don’t understand comments like the above. If a DCUM poster perceived as white/Ward 3/affluent/etc. appears to be only thinking of his/her own interest, you rail against that as selfish and not thinking of the whole community. If a poster expresses interest in or concern for the wider community, you claim it’s BS and that person doesn’t really care.

You seem to think the worst of everyone and determined to be divisive.

This poster constantly tries to make everything about race and "systematic" racism, constantly assuming every poster she's arguing with is white and affluent.

The problem, of course, is that it's completely irrelevant whether the PPs care or don't care about Black and Brown kids. Who cares if the PPs care? DCPS should, the WTU and its members should. Accusing posters presumed to be white of not really caring and of "using" the fact that DL is particularly devastating academically to poor minorities does not invalidate the fact that it is. Neither does the fact that systemic racism plays a role in the pre-existing achievement gap. To say that Covid will widen the gap "a bit" is a very optimistic description of what lies ahead.

It is about race, you just desperately don't want to hear it. You're probably sick of Black people fighting for their rights. Pray tell why are black people dying at a rate over 2.5 times than white people from covid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A quick question.

Those parents who want DCPS to open for term 4 for more students how is it going to be possible?

It may be possible at schools where the teacher has 11 kids in person and the rest online. But what about the schools, which I think are the majority whose class sizes when up?

Are you expecting in person teacher A to take on some of virtual teacher B's students?

If so what is the plan for social distancing? That's literally impossible with 24+ students.

FWIW, our principal said the in-person/DL split that goes into effect Monday will be the way things stand for the rest of the school year. There won't be any more kids let in for Term 4.

Your principal has no basis for saying that. S/he might be right in the end, but s/he doesn’t actually have any grounds for believing that if s/he’s DCPS. The Mayor herself has said its undecided.

He said that's what DCPS central office told him.

DP. Our principal didn’t say that exactly, but that’s the impression I have for our school as well. He said they only have a certain number of teachers that will come back in person, and they can only permit a certain number of students per class, and they can’t overwhelm the teachers who are continuing to do DL. And they can’t hire more teachers.

Our kid is on the waitlist for an in person slot, but I’m not optimistic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A quick question.

Those parents who want DCPS to open for term 4 for more students how is it going to be possible?

It may be possible at schools where the teacher has 11 kids in person and the rest online. But what about the schools, which I think are the majority whose class sizes when up?

Are you expecting in person teacher A to take on some of virtual teacher B's students?

If so what is the plan for social distancing? That's literally impossible with 24+ students.

FWIW, our principal said the in-person/DL split that goes into effect Monday will be the way things stand for the rest of the school year. There won't be any more kids let in for Term 4.

Your principal has no basis for saying that. S/he might be right in the end, but s/he doesn’t actually have any grounds for believing that if s/he’s DCPS. The Mayor herself has said its undecided.

He said that's what DCPS central office told him.

DP. Our principal didn’t say that exactly, but that’s the impression I have for our school as well. He said they only have a certain number of teachers that will come back in person, and they can only permit a certain number of students per class, and they can’t overwhelm the teachers who are continuing to do DL. And they can’t hire more teachers.

Our kid is on the waitlist for an in person slot, but I’m not optimistic.

Our principal is hoping to double in March. One of the real holdups is bathroom access. Only one kid is allowed in at a time and then it has to remain empty for 15 min according to OSSE.

[Anonymous]

Oh dear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A quick question.

Those parents who want DCPS to open for term 4 for more students how is it going to be possible?

It may be possible at schools where the teacher has 11 kids in person and the rest online. But what about the schools, which I think are the majority whose class sizes when up?

Are you expecting in person teacher A to take on some of virtual teacher B's students?

If so what is the plan for social distancing? That's literally impossible with 24+ students.

FWIW, our principal said the in-person/DL split that goes into effect Monday will be the way things stand for the rest of the school year. There won't be any more kids let in for Term 4.

Your principal has no basis for saying that. S/he might be right in the end, but s/he doesn’t actually have any grounds for believing that if s/he’s DCPS. The Mayor herself has said its undecided.

He said that's what DCPS central office told him.

DP. Our principal didn’t say that exactly, but that’s the impression I have for our school as well. He said they only have a certain number of teachers that will come back in person, and they can only permit a certain number of students per class, and they can’t overwhelm the teachers who are continuing to do DL. And they can’t hire more teachers.

Our kid is on the waitlist for an in person slot, but I’m not optimistic.

Our principal is hoping to double in March. One of the real holdups is bathroom access. Only one kid is allowed in at a time and then it has to remain empty for 15 min according to OSSE.

Is there actually science demonstrating that going into a bathroom less than 15 minutes after another person is a COVID risk? It seems like OSSE is being super cautious, which I guess is good?