The Crown - season 4

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Okay that may not be precisely true. Somehow the Queen Mother amassed a $40 million personal fortune. Obviously she was given some money upon her husband’s death, and her father was a minor wealthy lord so she split a small inheritance with her nine siblings (the heir getting the biggest cut). Who knows where the rest came from.

In 1994 the Queen Mother placed two-thirds of her money fortune - an estimated £19m - into a trust fund for her great grandchildren, a gamble, at the age of 94, that she would live for another seven years and so avoid paying 40%. That hurdle was cleared last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/apr/03/queenmother.monarchy2

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Anonymous wrote:I think Phillip was a hottie. Not now he is nearly 100 obviously, but back when he was a blond - yah! no wonder he has had a bunch of other kids with mistresses all over Europe.

so im a newbie to all this, but -- is it common knowledge that there are philip kids out there beyond the ones with queen elizabeth?

I'm from England and it is common but quiet knowledge amongst the Brits, yes. There is an actress, Eileen Atkins who is one of his and a woman in Paris who I can't remember the name of. Also recently in the press they showed photos of a much younger woman he spends time with - the press was heavily criticized and the photos removed.

Wow - Eileen Atkins played Queen Mary in Season 1 of The Crown.

Eileen Atkins was born in 1934 when Philip was 13 years old. PP is full of it, he is NOT her father.

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Anonymous wrote:Okay that may not be precisely true. Somehow the Queen Mother amassed a $40 million personal fortune. Obviously she was given some money upon her husband’s death, and her father was a minor wealthy lord so she split a small inheritance with her nine siblings (the heir getting the biggest cut). Who knows where the rest came from.

In 1994 the Queen Mother placed two-thirds of her money fortune - an estimated £19m - into a trust fund for her great grandchildren, a gamble, at the age of 94, that she would live for another seven years and so avoid paying 40%. That hurdle was cleared last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/apr/03/queenmother.monarchy2

Some of that fortune may have been in the form of jewelry. There’s at least one tiara that the Queen has that she inherited from her mother, there was likely lots more that was her personal property.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Phillip was a hottie. Not now he is nearly 100 obviously, but back when he was a blond - yah! no wonder he has had a bunch of other kids with mistresses all over Europe.

so im a newbie to all this, but -- is it common knowledge that there are philip kids out there beyond the ones with queen elizabeth?

I'm from England and it is common but quiet knowledge amongst the Brits, yes. There is an actress, Eileen Atkins who is one of his and a woman in Paris who I can't remember the name of. Also recently in the press they showed photos of a much younger woman he spends time with - the press was heavily criticized and the photos removed.

Wow - Eileen Atkins played Queen Mary in Season 1 of The Crown.

Eileen Atkins was born in 1934 when Philip was 13 years old. PP is full of it, he is NOT her father.

- no one said he was her father - she was one of his girlfriends

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Anonymous wrote:Okay that may not be precisely true. Somehow the Queen Mother amassed a $40 million personal fortune. Obviously she was given some money upon her husband’s death, and her father was a minor wealthy lord so she split a small inheritance with her nine siblings (the heir getting the biggest cut). Who knows where the rest came from.

In 1994 the Queen Mother placed two-thirds of her money fortune - an estimated £19m - into a trust fund for her great grandchildren, a gamble, at the age of 94, that she would live for another seven years and so avoid paying 40%. That hurdle was cleared last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/apr/03/queenmother.monarchy2

Some of that fortune may have been in the form of jewelry. There’s at least one tiara that the Queen has that she inherited from her mother, there was likely lots more that was her personal property.

Yep the article mentions a painting that the QM bought for $4K during the wars and eventually sold for over $15M.

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Anonymous wrote:The Royal Family is mad because they know as bad as Season 4 was - Season 5 will be straight horrific for them.

Tampon Gate is coming! So is the interview Charles gave on national television admitting the affair. Then there was the time tomatoes were thrown at Camilla in the grocery store. Diana's trip to the Taj Mahal (a temple dedicated to a king's undying love for his queen) by herself. The official separation years where they lived in different palaces and Charles entertained Camilla full time. Sending William and Harry off to boarding school at the exact same time.

Oh and that doesn't even take into account Prince Edward failing out of military training, Fergie getting her toes sucked by a lover in front of her two-year-old daughter, and actual divorce proceedings.

The Royal family is a hot , trashy mess

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please fill in the missing piece for me. Why didn't Charles and Camilla get married in the first place? Did the royal family keep them apart, and if so, why?

In the show she was seeing APB behind Charles’ back. She was playing him at the time just like she did for the Diana years. I agree with Margaret that Camilla in her twisted way was happy with her arrangement.

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Anonymous wrote:My wife and I want to watch The Crown but read that the TV-MA rating is partly for nudity.

We're not comfortable watching shows with a lot of sex, so how much of that is there in The Crown?

I have zero recollection of there being any, so it must have been fast and very forgettable.

Margaret - Season 2

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Is it terrible that I sort-of feel that Princess Diana's narrative is the only one everyone appears to internalize regarding the Wales' marriage drama?

Do we know for a fact that Charles carried on an active affair with Camilla during the entirety of their marriage? What about Princess Diana's documented mental health issues?

To me, it appears that more than the cheating, Princess Diana had major immaturity issues. Charles needed a partner and she was always crying and creating drama.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it terrible that I sort-of feel that Princess Diana's narrative is the only one everyone appears to internalize regarding the Wales' marriage drama?

Do we know for a fact that Charles carried on an active affair with Camilla during the entirety of their marriage? What about Princess Diana's documented mental health issues?

To me, it appears that more than the cheating, Princess Diana had major immaturity issues. Charles needed a partner and she was always crying and creating drama.

She was 19.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Phillip was a hottie. Not now he is nearly 100 obviously, but back when he was a blond - yah! no wonder he has had a bunch of other kids with mistresses all over Europe.

so im a newbie to all this, but -- is it common knowledge that there are philip kids out there beyond the ones with queen elizabeth?

I'm from England and it is common but quiet knowledge amongst the Brits, yes. There is an actress, Eileen Atkins who is one of his and a woman in Paris who I can't remember the name of. Also recently in the press they showed photos of a much younger woman he spends time with - the press was heavily criticized and the photos removed.

So why is it beyond belief Harry and Andrew have different fathers?

Did you mean William? The Spencer side had red hair in their genes and so I believe Charles is the father.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it terrible that I sort-of feel that Princess Diana's narrative is the only one everyone appears to internalize regarding the Wales' marriage drama?

Do we know for a fact that Charles carried on an active affair with Camilla during the entirety of their marriage? What about Princess Diana's documented mental health issues?

To me, it appears that more than the cheating, Princess Diana had major immaturity issues. Charles needed a partner and she was always crying and creating drama.

She was 19.

Exactly. She was 19 and had no support or real love from Charles, her only lifeline in a dysfunctional, insular, generally unhappy and cynical family. I am fascinated by the royals, but it’s messed up that a family dynamic can revolve solely around one person at the expense at everyone around them. For what? To remain in power, preserve the family heritage in an outdated institution? They were all miserable despite having every privilege in the world.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Harry and Phillip look much alike. On the other hand, Harry is a dead ringer for Diana’s riding instructor.

Diana said the years in between kids were all a “blur”. Kind of convenient considering she gave very specific recollections of events years and years prior.

I actually wondered if Harry was Phillip's SON

No way! You don't know much about genetics do you, pp? Do you not believe that one can look like the grandparents? Aunts or Uncles?

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Anonymous wrote:I was ten years old when Di and Charles got married, and I remember Thatcher, the Falkland Islands War, etc. Also remember hating Charles and Camilla and loving Diana, whatever year(s) it was that somehow I heard about the marital issues. This show has brought back a lot of memories.

I really hate Charles and Camilla still.

Your hatred should be directed at Lillibet, Philip, and Dickie Mountbatten. They engineered that ill fated marriage. Charles and Camilla should have married from the first. They are now very happily married.

How do you know they are happily married? I'm really curious about whether it has lived up to his expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand the purpose of the monarchy. It doesn't seem like they really understand it either besides "tradition" and "history."

Why can't the PM do the ceremonial stuff in addition to the politics? That's what the POTUS does.

This is an incredible take. The "tradition" and "history" of the British Royal family includes the largest empire on earth, the invention of an entire Christian denomination, the rise of our own country, the first written constitution in the Magna Carta, etc.

Only the UK can decide if they want the Royal family to remain as it is or substantially as it is, but its history is significant not only in the UK, but in the development of the modern world.

You say “the largest empire on Earth” like it’s a good thing. It’s not.

NP - Although you aren't allowed to say so, it undoubtedly was a good thing.