Arizona is a disaster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The positivity rate for tests in Mexico was 49.5 % yesterday. any surprise that the border states are seeing spikes?

Heard mandatory testing of migrant workers is accounting for a lot of the #s in US.

Right. It’s Mexico’s fault.

Roll your eyes al you want. Doctors in SoCal have been reporting high ## of people coming in from Mexico for treatment. If you had coronavirus, would you want to be in the hospital in LA or Tucson or a Mexican border town?

This is from the WaPo a month ago, when Mexico's covid numbers were better than they are now:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/27/coronavirus-mexico-border/?arc404=true

Then a real pandemic struck. Now, approximately half of the coronavirus patients in several California border hospitals, including El Centro Regional Medical Center, are recent arrivals from Mexico. As a result of that surge, Imperial County, home to El Centro, has a much higher concentration of coronavirus cases — 760 per 100,000 residents — than any other county in California.

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“We see patients who have been in Mexican hospitals for two, three or four days before they cross the border and come to us,” said Dennis Amundson, the medical director in the intensive care unit at Scripps Mercy Hospital in Chula Vista, Calif.

U.S. citizens and green-card holders in northern Mexico started sharing messages and Facebook posts in groups such as “Rosarito Living” and “Expats in Mexico.” If you get sick, they say, cross the border.

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Forty-eight percent of patients at Scripps Mercy in Chula Vista last week had visited Mexico in the week before they were admitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The positivity rate for tests in Mexico was 49.5 % yesterday. any surprise that the border states are seeing spikes?

Heard mandatory testing of migrant workers is accounting for a lot of the #s in US.

Right. It’s Mexico’s fault.

Roll your eyes al you want. Doctors in SoCal have been reporting high ## of people coming in from Mexico for treatment. If you had coronavirus, would you want to be in the hospital in LA or Tucson or a Mexican border town?

This is from the WaPo a month ago, when Mexico's covid numbers were better than they are now:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/27/coronavirus-mexico-border/?arc404=true

Then a real pandemic struck. Now, approximately half of the coronavirus patients in several California border hospitals, including El Centro Regional Medical Center, are recent arrivals from Mexico. As a result of that surge, Imperial County, home to El Centro, has a much higher concentration of coronavirus cases — 760 per 100,000 residents — than any other county in California.

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“We see patients who have been in Mexican hospitals for two, three or four days before they cross the border and come to us,” said Dennis Amundson, the medical director in the intensive care unit at Scripps Mercy Hospital in Chula Vista, Calif.

U.S. citizens and green-card holders in northern Mexico started sharing messages and Facebook posts in groups such as “Rosarito Living” and “Expats in Mexico.” If you get sick, they say, cross the border.

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Forty-eight percent of patients at Scripps Mercy in Chula Vista last week had visited Mexico in the week before they were admitted.

why is this any different from the thousands of Us citizens who returned to the US in March, many of whom were sick or exposed?

At least US citizens or permanent residents from mexico can drive into the US, thus avoiding the transmissibility risks that came with the European wave of returning citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The positivity rate for tests in Mexico was 49.5 % yesterday. any surprise that the border states are seeing spikes?

Heard mandatory testing of migrant workers is accounting for a lot of the #s in US.

Right. It’s Mexico’s fault.

Roll your eyes al you want. Doctors in SoCal have been reporting high ## of people coming in from Mexico for treatment. If you had coronavirus, would you want to be in the hospital in LA or Tucson or a Mexican border town?

This is from the WaPo a month ago, when Mexico's covid numbers were better than they are now:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/27/coronavirus-mexico-border/?arc404=true

Then a real pandemic struck. Now, approximately half of the coronavirus patients in several California border hospitals, including El Centro Regional Medical Center, are recent arrivals from Mexico. As a result of that surge, Imperial County, home to El Centro, has a much higher concentration of coronavirus cases — 760 per 100,000 residents — than any other county in California.

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“We see patients who have been in Mexican hospitals for two, three or four days before they cross the border and come to us,” said Dennis Amundson, the medical director in the intensive care unit at Scripps Mercy Hospital in Chula Vista, Calif.

U.S. citizens and green-card holders in northern Mexico started sharing messages and Facebook posts in groups such as “Rosarito Living” and “Expats in Mexico.” If you get sick, they say, cross the border.

******

Forty-eight percent of patients at Scripps Mercy in Chula Vista last week had visited Mexico in the week before they were admitted.

why is this any different from the thousands of Us citizens who returned to the US in March, many of whom were sick or exposed?

At least US citizens or permanent residents from mexico can drive into the US, thus avoiding the transmissibility risks that came with the European wave of returning citizens.

Did I say it was different? You're more than a little defensive about this.

Mexico is having a significant outbreak, and, according the WaPo and NYT, people are flooding into the US for treatment. It explains a lot about what's happening in the border states. I guess we're supposed to ignore this because it's politically inconvenient?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The positivity rate for tests in Mexico was 49.5 % yesterday. any surprise that the border states are seeing spikes?

Heard mandatory testing of migrant workers is accounting for a lot of the #s in US.

Right. It’s Mexico’s fault.

Roll your eyes al you want. Doctors in SoCal have been reporting high ## of people coming in from Mexico for treatment. If you had coronavirus, would you want to be in the hospital in LA or Tucson or a Mexican border town?

This is from the WaPo a month ago, when Mexico's covid numbers were better than they are now:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/27/coronavirus-mexico-border/?arc404=true

Then a real pandemic struck. Now, approximately half of the coronavirus patients in several California border hospitals, including El Centro Regional Medical Center, are recent arrivals from Mexico. As a result of that surge, Imperial County, home to El Centro, has a much higher concentration of coronavirus cases — 760 per 100,000 residents — than any other county in California.

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“We see patients who have been in Mexican hospitals for two, three or four days before they cross the border and come to us,” said Dennis Amundson, the medical director in the intensive care unit at Scripps Mercy Hospital in Chula Vista, Calif.

U.S. citizens and green-card holders in northern Mexico started sharing messages and Facebook posts in groups such as “Rosarito Living” and “Expats in Mexico.” If you get sick, they say, cross the border.

******

Forty-eight percent of patients at Scripps Mercy in Chula Vista last week had visited Mexico in the week before they were admitted.

why is this any different from the thousands of Us citizens who returned to the US in March, many of whom were sick or exposed?

At least US citizens or permanent residents from mexico can drive into the US, thus avoiding the transmissibility risks that came with the European wave of returning citizens.

Did I say it was different? You're more than a little defensive about this.

Mexico is having a significant outbreak, and, according the WaPo and NYT, people are flooding into the US for treatment. It explains a lot about what's happening in the border states. I guess we're supposed to ignore this because it's politically inconvenient?

It contributes, but it doesn't explain "a lot."
Those states' refusals to follow public health guidelines in reopening, along with little effort being made to mitigate the outbreaks, is why Arizona, Texas, and the entire South are having huge and increasing outbreaks.

It's GOP governors blowing it. Look at New Mexico with a Dem governor, wedged between Arizona and Texas, yet has decreasing numbers. In fact there are more people hospitalized in the city of El Paso TX right now than in the entire state of New Mexico. https://kvia.com/news/new-mexico/2020/06/28/dona-ana-has-states-only-new-virus-death-new-mexico-now-has-fewer-hospitalizations-than-el-paso/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The positivity rate for tests in Mexico was 49.5 % yesterday. any surprise that the border states are seeing spikes?

Heard mandatory testing of migrant workers is accounting for a lot of the #s in US.

Right. It’s Mexico’s fault.

Roll your eyes al you want. Doctors in SoCal have been reporting high ## of people coming in from Mexico for treatment. If you had coronavirus, would you want to be in the hospital in LA or Tucson or a Mexican border town?

This is from the WaPo a month ago, when Mexico's covid numbers were better than they are now:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/27/coronavirus-mexico-border/?arc404=true

Then a real pandemic struck. Now, approximately half of the coronavirus patients in several California border hospitals, including El Centro Regional Medical Center, are recent arrivals from Mexico. As a result of that surge, Imperial County, home to El Centro, has a much higher concentration of coronavirus cases — 760 per 100,000 residents — than any other county in California.

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“We see patients who have been in Mexican hospitals for two, three or four days before they cross the border and come to us,” said Dennis Amundson, the medical director in the intensive care unit at Scripps Mercy Hospital in Chula Vista, Calif.

U.S. citizens and green-card holders in northern Mexico started sharing messages and Facebook posts in groups such as “Rosarito Living” and “Expats in Mexico.” If you get sick, they say, cross the border.

******

Forty-eight percent of patients at Scripps Mercy in Chula Vista last week had visited Mexico in the week before they were admitted.

why is this any different from the thousands of Us citizens who returned to the US in March, many of whom were sick or exposed?

At least US citizens or permanent residents from mexico can drive into the US, thus avoiding the transmissibility risks that came with the European wave of returning citizens.

Did I say it was different? You're more than a little defensive about this.

Mexico is having a significant outbreak, and, according the WaPo and NYT, people are flooding into the US for treatment. It explains a lot about what's happening in the border states. I guess we're supposed to ignore this because it's politically inconvenient?

It contributes, but it doesn't explain "a lot."
Those states' refusals to follow public health guidelines in reopening, along with little effort being made to mitigate the outbreaks, is why Arizona, Texas, and the entire South are having huge and increasing outbreaks.

It's GOP governors blowing it. Look at New Mexico with a Dem governor, wedged between Arizona and Texas, yet has decreasing numbers. In fact there are more people hospitalized in the city of El Paso TX right now than in the entire state of New Mexico. https://kvia.com/news/new-mexico/2020/06/28/dona-ana-has-states-only-new-virus-death-new-mexico-now-has-fewer-hospitalizations-than-el-paso/

NP here: Population of New Mexico is 2 million, metro El Paso is 1 million. Ciudad Juarez, right across the border, is 2.5 million. So 3.5 million in the El Paso region. Just a FYI.

Let's also be honest here. Lots of Northern states refused to follow public health guidelines too - we had these things called mass protests and riots....

[Anonymous]

Please cite that protests led to a covid spike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The positivity rate for tests in Mexico was 49.5 % yesterday. any surprise that the border states are seeing spikes?

Heard mandatory testing of migrant workers is accounting for a lot of the #s in US.

Right. It’s Mexico’s fault.

Roll your eyes al you want. Doctors in SoCal have been reporting high ## of people coming in from Mexico for treatment. If you had coronavirus, would you want to be in the hospital in LA or Tucson or a Mexican border town?

This is from the WaPo a month ago, when Mexico's covid numbers were better than they are now:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/27/coronavirus-mexico-border/?arc404=true

Then a real pandemic struck. Now, approximately half of the coronavirus patients in several California border hospitals, including El Centro Regional Medical Center, are recent arrivals from Mexico. As a result of that surge, Imperial County, home to El Centro, has a much higher concentration of coronavirus cases — 760 per 100,000 residents — than any other county in California.

****

“We see patients who have been in Mexican hospitals for two, three or four days before they cross the border and come to us,” said Dennis Amundson, the medical director in the intensive care unit at Scripps Mercy Hospital in Chula Vista, Calif.

U.S. citizens and green-card holders in northern Mexico started sharing messages and Facebook posts in groups such as “Rosarito Living” and “Expats in Mexico.” If you get sick, they say, cross the border.

******

Forty-eight percent of patients at Scripps Mercy in Chula Vista last week had visited Mexico in the week before they were admitted.

why is this any different from the thousands of Us citizens who returned to the US in March, many of whom were sick or exposed?

At least US citizens or permanent residents from mexico can drive into the US, thus avoiding the transmissibility risks that came with the European wave of returning citizens.

Did I say it was different? You're more than a little defensive about this.

Mexico is having a significant outbreak, and, according the WaPo and NYT, people are flooding into the US for treatment. It explains a lot about what's happening in the border states. I guess we're supposed to ignore this because it's politically inconvenient?

It contributes, but it doesn't explain "a lot."
Those states' refusals to follow public health guidelines in reopening, along with little effort being made to mitigate the outbreaks, is why Arizona, Texas, and the entire South are having huge and increasing outbreaks.

It's GOP governors blowing it. Look at New Mexico with a Dem governor, wedged between Arizona and Texas, yet has decreasing numbers. In fact there are more people hospitalized in the city of El Paso TX right now than in the entire state of New Mexico. https://kvia.com/news/new-mexico/2020/06/28/dona-ana-has-states-only-new-virus-death-new-mexico-now-has-fewer-hospitalizations-than-el-paso/

Actually, you just made my point. Check out a map. The bolded would be true because El Paso is the major medical center for BOTH for Western Texas and NM and is the major border crossing for NM. El Paso getting patients from Mexico and Southern New Mexico.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please cite that protests led to a covid spike.

Just wait. The Southern spike didn't happen overnight. It's all about seeding. The South reopened when their cases were very, very low. The north is reopening now because our cases have dropped to very low numbers, basically the same place TX and FL was 4-6 weeks ago Give it time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please cite that protests led to a covid spike.

Just wait. The Southern spike didn't happen overnight. It's all about seeding. The South reopened when their cases were very, very low. The north is reopening now because our cases have dropped to very low numbers, basically the same place TX and FL was 4-6 weeks ago Give it time.

The south never took it seriously. It’s not going to explode like that if people continue to engage in risk mitigation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please cite that protests led to a covid spike.

Just wait. The Southern spike didn't happen overnight. It's all about seeding. The South reopened when their cases were very, very low. The north is reopening now because our cases have dropped to very low numbers, basically the same place TX and FL was 4-6 weeks ago Give it time.

The south never took it seriously. It’s not going to explode like that if people continue to engage in risk mitigation

I'm looking around downtown Philadelphia, where I live. People gathering and hanging out in parks, streetside cafes packed with people with no masks. And we had protests and riots a few weeks ago.

Give it time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please cite that protests led to a covid spike.

Just wait. The Southern spike didn't happen overnight. It's all about seeding. The South reopened when their cases were very, very low. The north is reopening now because our cases have dropped to very low numbers, basically the same place TX and FL was 4-6 weeks ago Give it time.

The south never took it seriously. It’s not going to explode like that if people continue to engage in risk mitigation

I'm looking around downtown Philadelphia, where I live. People gathering and hanging out in parks, streetside cafes packed with people with no masks. And we had protests and riots a few weeks ago.

Give it time.

Right? Just like the experts and projections said. "2 weeks" "2 weeks" "2 weeks"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please cite that protests led to a covid spike.

Just wait. The Southern spike didn't happen overnight. It's all about seeding. The South reopened when their cases were very, very low. The north is reopening now because our cases have dropped to very low numbers, basically the same place TX and FL was 4-6 weeks ago Give it time.

The south never took it seriously. It’s not going to explode like that if people continue to engage in risk mitigation

Do you have a cite for that? Other than what you see on Facebook? Because I live in the South and my town shut down before NYC did. We were quarantined for 3 months, just like everyone else. I can tell you that my friends in the DC area posted more "going out" photos than did my friends down here, and are now posting pictures of their teens on the beach in Maryland with a big group of friends with their arms around each other. So, based on my evidence, I would say that DC never took it "seriously." Which is backed up by the # of cases and deaths, by the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please cite that protests led to a covid spike.

Just wait. The Southern spike didn't happen overnight. It's all about seeding. The South reopened when their cases were very, very low. The north is reopening now because our cases have dropped to very low numbers, basically the same place TX and FL was 4-6 weeks ago Give it time.

The south never took it seriously. It’s not going to explode like that if people continue to engage in risk mitigation

Do you have a cite for that? Other than what you see on Facebook? Because I live in the South and my town shut down before NYC did. We were quarantined for 3 months, just like everyone else. I can tell you that my friends in the DC area posted more "going out" photos than did my friends down here, and are now posting pictures of their teens on the beach in Maryland with a big group of friends with their arms around each other. So, based on my evidence, I would say that DC never took it "seriously." Which is backed up by the # of cases and deaths, by the way.

You experience with a few friends don’t say much. I live in DC and it was a ghost town during the long shutdown. People here took it seriously. Everyone is wearing masks. But if you want facts, see link below on who is doing well and who is not currently. DMV doing great now, 2 weeks ago and 1 month ago. Consistent pattern. Many southern states and AZ now and the same time period, not so.

https://rt.live/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The positivity rate for tests in Mexico was 49.5 % yesterday. any surprise that the border states are seeing spikes?

Heard mandatory testing of migrant workers is accounting for a lot of the #s in US.

Right. It’s Mexico’s fault.

Roll your eyes al you want. Doctors in SoCal have been reporting high ## of people coming in from Mexico for treatment. If you had coronavirus, would you want to be in the hospital in LA or Tucson or a Mexican border town?

This is from the WaPo a month ago, when Mexico's covid numbers were better than they are now:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/27/coronavirus-mexico-border/?arc404=true

Then a real pandemic struck. Now, approximately half of the coronavirus patients in several California border hospitals, including El Centro Regional Medical Center, are recent arrivals from Mexico. As a result of that surge, Imperial County, home to El Centro, has a much higher concentration of coronavirus cases — 760 per 100,000 residents — than any other county in California.

****

“We see patients who have been in Mexican hospitals for two, three or four days before they cross the border and come to us,” said Dennis Amundson, the medical director in the intensive care unit at Scripps Mercy Hospital in Chula Vista, Calif.

U.S. citizens and green-card holders in northern Mexico started sharing messages and Facebook posts in groups such as “Rosarito Living” and “Expats in Mexico.” If you get sick, they say, cross the border.

******

Forty-eight percent of patients at Scripps Mercy in Chula Vista last week had visited Mexico in the week before they were admitted.

why is this any different from the thousands of Us citizens who returned to the US in March, many of whom were sick or exposed?

At least US citizens or permanent residents from mexico can drive into the US, thus avoiding the transmissibility risks that came with the European wave of returning citizens.

Did I say it was different? You're more than a little defensive about this.

Mexico is having a significant outbreak, and, according the WaPo and NYT, people are flooding into the US for treatment. It explains a lot about what's happening in the border states. I guess we're supposed to ignore this because it's politically inconvenient?

It contributes, but it doesn't explain "a lot."
Those states' refusals to follow public health guidelines in reopening, along with little effort being made to mitigate the outbreaks, is why Arizona, Texas, and the entire South are having huge and increasing outbreaks.

It's GOP governors blowing it. Look at New Mexico with a Dem governor, wedged between Arizona and Texas, yet has decreasing numbers. In fact there are more people hospitalized in the city of El Paso TX right now than in the entire state of New Mexico. https://kvia.com/news/new-mexico/2020/06/28/dona-ana-has-states-only-new-virus-death-new-mexico-now-has-fewer-hospitalizations-than-el-paso/

NP here: Population of New Mexico is 2 million, metro El Paso is 1 million. Ciudad Juarez, right across the border, is 2.5 million. So 3.5 million in the El Paso region. Just a FYI.

Let's also be honest here. Lots of Northern states refused to follow public health guidelines too - we had these things called mass protests and riots....

Sure let's be "honest here" Dumf had a playbook from Obama, could have avoided all of this.

McConnell said so on FOX NEWS.

127,000 dead Americans and counting.

Now as for blue vs red states. Red states had decided the virus was a hoax and just like the flu. How's that working for them currently? Florida's not even reporting all it's deaths or how full all the hospitals are.

Fact, cases coming from Mexico, American's who could not stay home went on vacation and bringing it back. American's who work over the border also brining it back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The positivity rate for tests in Mexico was 49.5 % yesterday. any surprise that the border states are seeing spikes?

Heard mandatory testing of migrant workers is accounting for a lot of the #s in US.

Right. It’s Mexico’s fault.

Roll your eyes al you want. Doctors in SoCal have been reporting high ## of people coming in from Mexico for treatment. If you had coronavirus, would you want to be in the hospital in LA or Tucson or a Mexican border town?

This is from the WaPo a month ago, when Mexico's covid numbers were better than they are now:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/05/27/coronavirus-mexico-border/?arc404=true

Then a real pandemic struck. Now, approximately half of the coronavirus patients in several California border hospitals, including El Centro Regional Medical Center, are recent arrivals from Mexico. As a result of that surge, Imperial County, home to El Centro, has a much higher concentration of coronavirus cases — 760 per 100,000 residents — than any other county in California.

****

“We see patients who have been in Mexican hospitals for two, three or four days before they cross the border and come to us,” said Dennis Amundson, the medical director in the intensive care unit at Scripps Mercy Hospital in Chula Vista, Calif.

U.S. citizens and green-card holders in northern Mexico started sharing messages and Facebook posts in groups such as “Rosarito Living” and “Expats in Mexico.” If you get sick, they say, cross the border.

******

Forty-eight percent of patients at Scripps Mercy in Chula Vista last week had visited Mexico in the week before they were admitted.

why is this any different from the thousands of Us citizens who returned to the US in March, many of whom were sick or exposed?

At least US citizens or permanent residents from mexico can drive into the US, thus avoiding the transmissibility risks that came with the European wave of returning citizens.

Did I say it was different? You're more than a little defensive about this.

Mexico is having a significant outbreak, and, according the WaPo and NYT, people are flooding into the US for treatment. It explains a lot about what's happening in the border states. I guess we're supposed to ignore this because it's politically inconvenient?

It contributes, but it doesn't explain "a lot."
Those states' refusals to follow public health guidelines in reopening, along with little effort being made to mitigate the outbreaks, is why Arizona, Texas, and the entire South are having huge and increasing outbreaks.

It's GOP governors blowing it. Look at New Mexico with a Dem governor, wedged between Arizona and Texas, yet has decreasing numbers. In fact there are more people hospitalized in the city of El Paso TX right now than in the entire state of New Mexico. https://kvia.com/news/new-mexico/2020/06/28/dona-ana-has-states-only-new-virus-death-new-mexico-now-has-fewer-hospitalizations-than-el-paso/

NP here: Population of New Mexico is 2 million, metro El Paso is 1 million. Ciudad Juarez, right across the border, is 2.5 million. So 3.5 million in the El Paso region. Just a FYI.

Let's also be honest here. Lots of Northern states refused to follow public health guidelines too - we had these things called mass protests and riots....

Sure let's be "honest here" Dumf had a playbook from Obama, could have avoided all of this.

McConnell said so on FOX NEWS.

127,000 dead Americans and counting.

Now as for blue vs red states. Red states had decided the virus was a hoax and just like the flu. How's that working for them currently? Florida's not even reporting all it's deaths or how full all the hospitals are.

Fact, cases coming from Mexico, American's who could not stay home went on vacation and bringing it back. American's who work over the border also brining it back.

How about we blame the virus explosion in Texas on the Hispanic communities (which sort of sounds like it's where a lot of the spikes are happening due to the reports from the border towns). How many of them are "Drumf" supporters?

Maybe it's exploded through the AA communities in Houston following the protests and Floyd's funeral.

Who knows.