Life after church & not believing in God

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Anonymous wrote:So, when all is said and done, religion is a matter of belief and faith.

Some of religion's attractive features are the beauty of it's rituals and it's writings, its ageless moral lessons, its love and compassion and, in some religions, its promise of eternal life.

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Religion has a lot to offer. I find it does, and it has enriched my life in so many ways.

Understood, and accepted.

Serious question: does it matter to you if it is true or not?

I believe it’s absolutely true. I have zero doubts. It’s the rock of my life.

I know you believe it is true. But would it matter if you discovered it was not?

God's existence or lack thereof is an objective fact that can never be arrived at subjectively. My religion provides great joy and inner peace to me and those who are willing to experience it, while those that can’t just think it’s strange.

Whether or not you do practice your religion as a member of a church, do you think you and others could practice it outside a church?

Why would we practice our religion outside of church? Do you mean incorporate our religion into our lives outside of church? My answer is yes but I am not sure really what you are asking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, when all is said and done, religion is a matter of belief and faith.

Some of religion's attractive features are the beauty of it's rituals and it's writings, its ageless moral lessons, its love and compassion and, in some religions, its promise of eternal life.

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Religion has a lot to offer. I find it does, and it has enriched my life in so many ways.

Understood, and accepted.

Serious question: does it matter to you if it is true or not?

I believe it’s absolutely true. I have zero doubts. It’s the rock of my life.

I know you believe it is true. But would it matter if you discovered it was not?

God's existence or lack thereof is an objective fact that can never be arrived at subjectively. My religion provides great joy and inner peace to me and those who are willing to experience it, while those that can’t just think it’s strange.

Thanks again for that answer, but that is not what I asked. Would it matter to you if you discovered it was not real? Would you change?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, when all is said and done, religion is a matter of belief and faith.

Some of religion's attractive features are the beauty of it's rituals and it's writings, its ageless moral lessons, its love and compassion and, in some religions, its promise of eternal life.

+1

Religion has a lot to offer. I find it does, and it has enriched my life in so many ways.

Understood, and accepted.

Serious question: does it matter to you if it is true or not?

I believe it’s absolutely true. I have zero doubts. It’s the rock of my life.

I know you believe it is true. But would it matter if you discovered it was not?

God's existence or lack thereof is an objective fact that can never be arrived at subjectively. My religion provides great joy and inner peace to me and those who are willing to experience it, while those that can’t just think it’s strange.

Thanks again for that answer, but that is not what I asked. Would it matter to you if you discovered it was not real? Would you change?

You can ask again but I believe it’s true. I don’t think anyone on earth has ever proved there’s no God. The most common argument used is that God doesn’t exist because evil exists. Many Christians understand evil exists because of original sin in the garden, and the rebellion/fall of Lucifer and his presence in the world. Of course evil exists.

Lots of arguments for religion and against. Lots of people believe in God, lots don’t.

What would it take for you to believe in God? What would change your mind?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, when all is said and done, religion is a matter of belief and faith.

Some of religion's attractive features are the beauty of it's rituals and it's writings, its ageless moral lessons, its love and compassion and, in some religions, its promise of eternal life.

+1

Religion has a lot to offer. I find it does, and it has enriched my life in so many ways.

Understood, and accepted.

Serious question: does it matter to you if it is true or not?

I believe it’s absolutely true. I have zero doubts. It’s the rock of my life.

I know you believe it is true. But would it matter if you discovered it was not?

God's existence or lack thereof is an objective fact that can never be arrived at subjectively. My religion provides great joy and inner peace to me and those who are willing to experience it, while those that can’t just think it’s strange.

You sound delusional. No offense intended, I swear.

You sound extremely intolerant. Not a good way to go though life.

Another's delusions don't affect me, so there's nothing to tolerate. You do you. It simply reminds me of mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:So, when all is said and done, religion is a matter of belief and faith.

Some of religion's attractive features are the beauty of it's rituals and it's writings, its ageless moral lessons, its love and compassion and, in some religions, its promise of eternal life.

+1

Religion has a lot to offer. I find it does, and it has enriched my life in so many ways.

Understood, and accepted.

Serious question: does it matter to you if it is true or not?

I believe it’s absolutely true. I have zero doubts. It’s the rock of my life.

I know you believe it is true. But would it matter if you discovered it was not?

God's existence or lack thereof is an objective fact that can never be arrived at subjectively. My religion provides great joy and inner peace to me and those who are willing to experience it, while those that can’t just think it’s strange.

You sound delusional. No offense intended, I swear.

You sound extremely intolerant. Not a good way to go though life.

Another's delusions don't affect me, so there's nothing to tolerate. You do you. It simply reminds me of mental illness.

You aren’t just intolerant, you are rude. Hopefully someday you’ll learn to mind your own business and worry about yourself instead of declaring religious people are deluded and mentally ill.

[Anonymous]

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Thanks again for that answer, but that is not what I asked. Would it matter to you if you discovered it was not real? Would you change?

You can ask again but I believe it’s true. I don’t think anyone on earth has ever proved there’s no God. The most common argument used is that God doesn’t exist because evil exists. Many Christians understand evil exists because of original sin in the garden, and the rebellion/fall of Lucifer and his presence in the world. Of course evil exists.

Again, I know you believe -- I am asking if you would change your beliefs if you discovered they weren't true. You haven't answered -- am I correct in assuming then you wouldn't change them?

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What would it take for you to believe in God? What would change your mind?

I'm not sure what it would take but if there is a god he certainly knows. And I absolutely would change my beliefs - instantly - once I saw evidence.

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Thanks again for that answer, but that is not what I asked. Would it matter to you if you discovered it was not real? Would you change?

You can ask again but I believe it’s true. I don’t think anyone on earth has ever proved there’s no God. The most common argument used is that God doesn’t exist because evil exists. Many Christians understand evil exists because of original sin in the garden, and the rebellion/fall of Lucifer and his presence in the world. Of course evil exists.

Again, I know you believe -- I am asking if you would change your beliefs if you discovered they weren't true. You haven't answered -- am I correct in assuming then you wouldn't change them?

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What would it take for you to believe in God? What would change your mind?

I'm not sure what it would take but if there is a god he certainly knows. And I absolutely would change my beliefs - instantly - once I saw evidence.

What is the evidence I would see that would prove to me God doesn’t exist? Where would it come from?

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What is the evidence I would see that would prove to me God doesn’t exist? Where would it come from?

Irrelevant to the question, and I answered it honestly without the same condition as I have no idea. Let's just imagine an unimpeachable source.

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What is the evidence I would see that would prove to me God doesn’t exist? Where would it come from?

Irrelevant to the question, and I answered it honestly without the same condition as I have no idea. Let's just imagine an unimpeachable source.

God is my unimpeachable source.

I am wondering how He is going to be proven to not exist. I need more details.

I don’t think you understand faith. Refer to the thread on Job. No hardship will break my belief. No death of a loved one will make me turn. I could lose everything-and have before- and it’s not once shaken my faith. If those things don’t break my trust and belief in God, I honestly don’t know what will.

If you don’t have any answer to how we would know God doesn’t exist, I can’t answer.

Are there people or organizations that are trying to disprove God’s existence? How do they go about doing so?

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What is the evidence I would see that would prove to me God doesn’t exist? Where would it come from?

Irrelevant to the question, and I answered it honestly without the same condition as I have no idea. Let's just imagine an unimpeachable source.

God is my unimpeachable source.

I am wondering how He is going to be proven to not exist. I need more details.

I don’t think you understand faith. Refer to the thread on Job. No hardship will break my belief. No death of a loved one will make me turn. I could lose everything-and have before- and it’s not once shaken my faith. If those things don’t break my trust and belief in God, I honestly don’t know what will.

If you don’t have any answer to how we would know God doesn’t exist, I can’t answer.

Are there people or organizations that are trying to disprove God’s existence? How do they go about doing so?

OK I will make this easier. One step short of non-belief. Vishnu appears on earth and proves the Christian god does not exist. Do you change your religion to Hinduism?

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What is the evidence I would see that would prove to me God doesn’t exist? Where would it come from?

Irrelevant to the question, and I answered it honestly without the same condition as I have no idea. Let's just imagine an unimpeachable source.

God is my unimpeachable source.

I am wondering how He is going to be proven to not exist. I need more details.

I don’t think you understand faith. Refer to the thread on Job. No hardship will break my belief. No death of a loved one will make me turn. I could lose everything-and have before- and it’s not once shaken my faith. If those things don’t break my trust and belief in God, I honestly don’t know what will.

If you don’t have any answer to how we would know God doesn’t exist, I can’t answer.

Are there people or organizations that are trying to disprove God’s existence? How do they go about doing so?

OK I will make this easier. One step short of non-belief. Vishnu appears on earth and proves the Christian god does not exist. Do you change your religion to Hinduism?

So you believe Vishnu will appear someday? Aren’t you an atheist? You don’t believe in Vishnu. You want me to believe in Vishnu so he can tell me God doesn’t exist?

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It’s weird an atheist wants a god to appear and tell me God isn’t real.

[Anonymous]

And how would Vishnu prove that? I might seem obtuse and argumentative but to change my mind about God would take very hard to do. There’s no pretending with me.

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Would be very hard to do/take a lot of something- IDK what. If you want me to seriously consider your question please be more specific.

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Anonymous wrote:Would be very hard to do/take a lot of something- IDK what. If you want me to seriously consider your question please be more specific.

I’ve been plenty specific , and your (non) answers are very telling.

Your faith is more important to you than truth or facts. You’re doing everything you can to avoid saying it, but it’s obvious. That’s fine with me, it is your right and prerogative. But I care more about what is true, as do most atheists.

That’s a major difference.