Top 10 Schools in MoCo

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! Whitman is a 4. The W's have really gone downhill.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=Permalink#Test_scores

What a moron.

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Whitman is not a 4. https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow! Whitman is a 4. The W's have really gone downhill.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=Permalink#Test_scores

It plainly states that Whitman is rated a 4 for academics based on objective test scores.
Nobody cares about its equity rating since it's a low FARMs school with low numbers of AA and Hispanic students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! Whitman is a 4. The W's have really gone downhill.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=Permalink#Test_scores

It plainly states that Whitman is rated a 4 for academics based on objective test scores.
Nobody cares about its equity rating since it's a low FARMs school with low numbers of AA and Hispanic students.

That's silly. Evidently there are people who do care.

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the Niche rankings:

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-public-high-schools/s/maryland/
1. Poolesville
2. Churchill
3. Whitman
4. Wootton
5. Richard Montgomery
6. Walter Johnson
7. BCC
8. Blair
9. Quince Orchard
10. Northwest

how does Niche rate schools? doesn't it rely a lot on surveys?

There is no way Poolesville ranks above the next three by any credible metric.

+1. Poolesville, what a joke.

Hard for some people to admit that a school in upcounty of all places is better than the coveted Ws.

Story of our lives on this forum.

- upcounty parent

It's far more plausible that Poolesville is #1 than either Churchill or Whitman in the top five. Seriously, Whitman is one of the lowest ranked schools in the count and is a GS 4.

Whitman isn’t a gs4, it is an 8. It has a test score rating of 4 due to PARCC results which are strange seeing that it also has the highest SAT scores in the state and DC metro excluding TJ

The GS website lists Whitman as a 4.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970...m_medium=Permalink#Test_scores

You must have gone to a silver spring school, 8 is greater than 4
https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/schools/?gradeLevels=h

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow! Whitman is a 4. The W's have really gone downhill.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=Permalink#Test_scores

Man you sure are right, better keep all the poor minorities in the DCC as not to expose them to the drop-out mill that is Whitman. It would only make the achievement gap so much worse.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! Whitman is a 4. The W's have really gone downhill.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970-Walt-Whitman-High-School?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=Permalink#Test_scores

Man you sure are right, better keep all the poor minorities in the DCC as not to expose them to the drop-out mill that is Whitman. It would only make the achievement gap so much worse.

It is amazing and sad to watch Whitman's decline.

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Anonymous wrote:Here are the Niche rankings:

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-public-high-schools/s/maryland/
1. Poolesville
2. Churchill
3. Whitman
4. Wootton
5. Richard Montgomery
6. Walter Johnson
7. BCC
8. Blair
9. Quince Orchard
10. Northwest

how does Niche rate schools? doesn't it rely a lot on surveys?

There is no way Poolesville ranks above the next three by any credible metric.

+1. Poolesville, what a joke.

Hard for some people to admit that a school in upcounty of all places is better than the coveted Ws.

Story of our lives on this forum.

- upcounty parent

It's far more plausible that Poolesville is #1 than either Churchill or Whitman in the top five. Seriously, Whitman is one of the lowest ranked schools in the count and is a GS 4.

Whitman isn’t a gs4, it is an 8. It has a test score rating of 4 due to PARCC results which are strange seeing that it also has the highest SAT scores in the state and DC metro excluding TJ

The GS website lists Whitman as a 4.

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/970...m_medium=Permalink#Test_scores

You must have gone to a silver spring school, 8 is greater than 4
https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/bethesda/schools/?gradeLevels=h

I feel like a lot of parents use GS ratings. JUst based on test scores, here are the GS ratings top 10 First number is overall GS rating/second number is test score/3rd number is college readiness

1. Churchill- 10/10/10
2. Wootton- 9/9/10
3. Poolesville- 9/8/10
4. WJ- 9/8/10
5 QO- 8/8/8
6 Sherwood-7/8/8
7. BCC- 9/7/10
8. Damascus- 8/7/9
9. Clarksburg 7/7/8
10. Northwest- 8/6/9

RM's ratings are 7/6/8
Blair, Magruder are 6/6/7

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Looks like a 4 to me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I feel like a lot of parents use GS ratings. JUst based on test scores, here are the GS ratings top 10 First number is overall GS rating/second number is test score/3rd number is college readiness

1. Churchill- 10/10/10
2. Wootton- 9/9/10
3. Poolesville- 9/8/10
4. WJ- 9/8/10
5 QO- 8/8/8
6 Sherwood-7/8/8
7. BCC- 9/7/10
8. Damascus- 8/7/9
9. Clarksburg 7/7/8
10. Northwest- 8/6/9

RM's ratings are 7/6/8
Blair, Magruder are 6/6/7

Simple averages for standardized state test that GS uses for its ratings only serves to identify which high-schools draw a higher percentage of rich kids. A better, refined analysis looks at the granular data. When you isolate for race which is proxy a for socioeconomic status there is not much of a disparity between the performance of kids of the same backgrounds across these schools. For example, when you compare average SAT scores for MCPS schools for a larger demographic common to all these schools the GS narrative falls apart and it becomes clear they're not all that different.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I feel like a lot of parents use GS ratings. JUst based on test scores, here are the GS ratings top 10 First number is overall GS rating/second number is test score/3rd number is college readiness

1. Churchill- 10/10/10
2. Wootton- 9/9/10
3. Poolesville- 9/8/10
4. WJ- 9/8/10
5 QO- 8/8/8
6 Sherwood-7/8/8
7. BCC- 9/7/10
8. Damascus- 8/7/9
9. Clarksburg 7/7/8
10. Northwest- 8/6/9

RM's ratings are 7/6/8
Blair, Magruder are 6/6/7

Simple averages for standardized state test that GS uses for its ratings only serves to identify which high-schools draw a higher percentage of rich kids. A better, refined analysis looks at the granular data. When you isolate for race which is proxy a for socioeconomic status there is not much of a disparity between the performance of kids of the same backgrounds across these schools. For example, when you compare average SAT scores for MCPS schools for a larger demographic common to all these schools the GS narrative falls apart and it becomes clear they're not all that different.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148

Yup. That's why I always ask for granular, quantitative proof when people spout off things like "Whitman is better than QO." There's no evidence the W schools serve individual kids better than QO, NW, or other MCPS HS's. Aggregate data are really just proxies for the demographic profiles of the schools.

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Anonymous wrote:
I feel like a lot of parents use GS ratings. JUst based on test scores, here are the GS ratings top 10 First number is overall GS rating/second number is test score/3rd number is college readiness

1. Churchill- 10/10/10
2. Wootton- 9/9/10
3. Poolesville- 9/8/10
4. WJ- 9/8/10
5 QO- 8/8/8
6 Sherwood-7/8/8
7. BCC- 9/7/10
8. Damascus- 8/7/9
9. Clarksburg 7/7/8
10. Northwest- 8/6/9

RM's ratings are 7/6/8
Blair, Magruder are 6/6/7

Simple averages for standardized state test that GS uses for its ratings only serves to identify which high-schools draw a higher percentage of rich kids. A better, refined analysis looks at the granular data. When you isolate for race which is proxy a for socioeconomic status there is not much of a disparity between the performance of kids of the same backgrounds across these schools. For example, when you compare average SAT scores for MCPS schools for a larger demographic common to all these schools the GS narrative falls apart and it becomes clear they're not all that different.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148

I'm not sure if avg SAT scores are a good indicator of school quality. SAT scores are more of an indicator of how much prepping the kids are doing outside of school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I feel like a lot of parents use GS ratings. JUst based on test scores, here are the GS ratings top 10 First number is overall GS rating/second number is test score/3rd number is college readiness

1. Churchill- 10/10/10
2. Wootton- 9/9/10
3. Poolesville- 9/8/10
4. WJ- 9/8/10
5 QO- 8/8/8
6 Sherwood-7/8/8
7. BCC- 9/7/10
8. Damascus- 8/7/9
9. Clarksburg 7/7/8
10. Northwest- 8/6/9

RM's ratings are 7/6/8
Blair, Magruder are 6/6/7

Simple averages for standardized state test that GS uses for its ratings only serves to identify which high-schools draw a higher percentage of rich kids. A better, refined analysis looks at the granular data. When you isolate for race which is proxy a for socioeconomic status there is not much of a disparity between the performance of kids of the same backgrounds across these schools. For example, when you compare average SAT scores for MCPS schools for a larger demographic common to all these schools the GS narrative falls apart and it becomes clear they're not all that different.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148

I'm not sure if avg SAT scores are a good indicator of school quality. SAT scores are more of an indicator of how much prepping the kids are doing outside of school.

Isolating for demographic differences on a national test like the SAT seems like a better indicator of a school's academic prowess than an average for a state-mandated test that measures minimal competency

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Anonymous wrote:
I feel like a lot of parents use GS ratings. JUst based on test scores, here are the GS ratings top 10 First number is overall GS rating/second number is test score/3rd number is college readiness

1. Churchill- 10/10/10
2. Wootton- 9/9/10
3. Poolesville- 9/8/10
4. WJ- 9/8/10
5 QO- 8/8/8
6 Sherwood-7/8/8
7. BCC- 9/7/10
8. Damascus- 8/7/9
9. Clarksburg 7/7/8
10. Northwest- 8/6/9

RM's ratings are 7/6/8
Blair, Magruder are 6/6/7

Simple averages for standardized state test that GS uses for its ratings only serves to identify which high-schools draw a higher percentage of rich kids. A better, refined analysis looks at the granular data. When you isolate for race which is proxy a for socioeconomic status there is not much of a disparity between the performance of kids of the same backgrounds across these schools. For example, when you compare average SAT scores for MCPS schools for a larger demographic common to all these schools the GS narrative falls apart and it becomes clear they're not all that different.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148

I'm not sure if avg SAT scores are a good indicator of school quality. SAT scores are more of an indicator of how much prepping the kids are doing outside of school.

Isolating for demographic differences on a national test like the SAT seems like a better indicator of a school's academic prowess than an average for a state-mandated test that measures minimal competency

Sorry I still disagree. A school's academic prowess cannot be measured by the average SAT scores of students (who choose to take the test) especially since scores can be drastically improved by those who have the economic means to take practice tests and attend prep classes. In this approach, schools with higher FARM rates are already going to be at a disadvantage.

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Anonymous wrote:
I feel like a lot of parents use GS ratings. JUst based on test scores, here are the GS ratings top 10 First number is overall GS rating/second number is test score/3rd number is college readiness

1. Churchill- 10/10/10
2. Wootton- 9/9/10
3. Poolesville- 9/8/10
4. WJ- 9/8/10
5 QO- 8/8/8
6 Sherwood-7/8/8
7. BCC- 9/7/10
8. Damascus- 8/7/9
9. Clarksburg 7/7/8
10. Northwest- 8/6/9

RM's ratings are 7/6/8
Blair, Magruder are 6/6/7

Simple averages for standardized state test that GS uses for its ratings only serves to identify which high-schools draw a higher percentage of rich kids. A better, refined analysis looks at the granular data. When you isolate for race which is proxy a for socioeconomic status there is not much of a disparity between the performance of kids of the same backgrounds across these schools. For example, when you compare average SAT scores for MCPS schools for a larger demographic common to all these schools the GS narrative falls apart and it becomes clear they're not all that different.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257
Wheaton 1173
Einstein 1148

I'm not sure if avg SAT scores are a good indicator of school quality. SAT scores are more of an indicator of how much prepping the kids are doing outside of school.

Isolating for demographic differences on a national test like the SAT seems like a better indicator of a school's academic prowess than an average for a state-mandated test that measures minimal competency

Sorry I still disagree. A school's academic prowess cannot be measured by the average SAT scores of students (who choose to take the test) especially since scores can be drastically improved by those who have the economic means to take practice tests and attend prep classes. In this approach, schools with higher FARM rates are already going to be at a disadvantage.

So how can we measure a school's academic prowess?