Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2017 MCPS annual report, includes test scores by grade level, by cohort (white, AA, Hispanic). Very easy to read power point. Nothing racist about it. Just the results.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/

45% pass rate in parcc!?!?! More money ain’t going to fix that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:2017 MCPS annual report, includes test scores by grade level, by cohort (white, AA, Hispanic). Very easy to read power point. Nothing racist about it. Just the results.

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/

45% pass rate in parcc!?!?! More money ain’t going to fix that.

That's actually comparable to rates in other good districts. PARCC tests have high standards and students also report they're confusing and tricky. For instance in New Jersey a majority of students didn't meet or exceed expectations on PARCC. http://www.nj.com/education/2015/10/nj_parcc_scores.html

[Anonymous]

And here are Maryland PARCC rates. Even in what's considered one of he best performing states in the nation, pass rates are low. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/education/bs-md-parcc-scores-20170821-story.html

[Anonymous]

I have a proposal on this I would like to make public at a later date. But let me say this: The status quo is just the beginning of our time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a proposal on this I would like to make public at a later date. But let me say this: The status quo is just the beginning of our time

...the suspense is killing me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a proposal on this I would like to make public at a later date. But let me say this: The status quo is just the beginning of our time

...the suspense is killing me.

I dream of a district comprising only DCUM families....

[Anonymous]

I live in Silver Spring and I would actually like if Bethesda and Potomac had their own district. It will never happen, obviously. But they could take their particular brand of affluenza-induced anxious parenting with them. I don't mind being part of an "average" school system where my child has some hope of succeeding at high levels without lots of tutors, year-round travel sports, anxiety medication, and therapists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a proposal on this I would like to make public at a later date. But let me say this: The status quo is just the beginning of our time

...the suspense is killing me.

I dream of a district comprising only DCUM families....

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in Silver Spring and I would actually like if Bethesda and Potomac had their own district. It will never happen, obviously. But they could take their particular brand of affluenza-induced anxious parenting with them. I don't mind being part of an "average" school system where my child has some hope of succeeding at high levels without lots of tutors, year-round travel sports, anxiety medication, and therapists.

At a minimum, I vote for the Ws to get their own DCUM forum.

[Anonymous]

A PP poster somewhere upthread said that 95% of Bethesda/Potomac would vote to leave MCPS in a heartbeat. Why not let them leave? There is no integration between the schools. Does anyone in the east even know where Wootton is or do you really go out there often?

Out of curiosity, I googled around to read some of the back story on areas that have split off from large school systems. Its seldom about money being disproportionately spent and almost always about the larger system intervening in a negative manner or completely ignoring the area leaving. The area leaving often pays the larger system and real estate values have risen in all the areas that split off. The larger school systems gets its money, the splitting area gets a responsive education school district and real estate values rise. Its only a lose situation to the administration of the large system that now can no longer take credit for the performance of the area that split off.

Class size is a good example of why the W schools should leave. In many systems, student:teacher ratios are much lower in poorer schools but the system allows the affluent areas to fund raise to put an aide in the classroom. Even DCPS allows this. MCPS does not. The argument that is unfair to Focus and Title 1 schools to allow the W schools to fund raise to put an aide in a lower elementary school class with 29 kids is bull shit. The W school would not be achieving a ratio that is better than the Focus school only one that is equal to the Focus school without taking any resources from the Focus school. The MCPS rationale is that since students in a W school already have non-school advantages then the only way to equal things out is to create a disadvantageous situation within school - as MCPS controls the schools.

The Magnet fiasco is along the same lines. MCPS didn't decide to increase spots in the Magnet to bring in more URM students and UMC students from the east. MCPS decided to leave the kids in the W schools in their home schools and remove this option to equal things out again. As the W students already have advantages outside of school the only way to equal things out is to create a disadvantageous situation in the schools - which MCPS controls.

Curriculum 2.0 and ending math acceleration is another example. There is a problem within MCPS with the achievement gap so MCPS decides to go at not by focusing on bringing up the bottom but by holding back the top.

You can't really blame anyone in the W schools from wanting out from under MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live in Silver Spring and I would actually like if Bethesda and Potomac had their own district. It will never happen, obviously. But they could take their particular brand of affluenza-induced anxious parenting with them. I don't mind being part of an "average" school system where my child has some hope of succeeding at high levels without lots of tutors, year-round travel sports, anxiety medication, and therapists.

At a minimum, I vote for the Ws to get their own DCUM forum.

Except they would still bop over here to piss all over the DCC, just for kicks. You know they would.

[Anonymous]

Honestly no one in the W schools cares about the DCC schools anymore than anyone in the DCC schools cares about the W schools. They do not interact or benefit each other. There is no programming or fluidity between the two.

Other than money, as a DCC resident what benefit do you derive from having the W schools as part of your school district?

Do you even know the $ value of how much the W schools are subsidizing your schools? It may not be as much as you think. Even though real estate value are extremely higher on the west, the volume is much lower. There is far more density in the other areas so you may not be losing the free money you think you are getting from them.

The high performance scores on the west side seem to only be giving you angst, guilt and insecurity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly no one in the W schools cares about the DCC schools anymore than anyone in the DCC schools cares about the W schools. They do not interact or benefit each other. There is no programming or fluidity between the two.

Other than money, as a DCC resident what benefit do you derive from having the W schools as part of your school district?

Do you even know the $ value of how much the W schools are subsidizing your schools? It may not be as much as you think. Even though real estate value are extremely higher on the west, the volume is much lower. There is far more density in the other areas so you may not be losing the free money you think you are getting from them.

The high performance scores on the west side seem to only be giving you angst, guilt and insecurity.

As always, I find it difficult to tell whether I'm supposed to think that the Bethesda/Potomac schools are really awesome or terrible and downtrodden. If they're really awesome now, why would you want to leave? If they're terrible and downtrodden, why did you spend so much money to send your children to them?

[Anonymous]

Pretty sure we have one CS supporter intent on tearing down all of MCPS...or a Russian troll perhaps? No one in our W school feeder has any interest in such a separation. This looks like yet another of the recent inflammatory threads created by, and full of propaganda, from an angry, and disappointed in this years magnet admissions, CES parent. Many other posters are sharing good substantive and demonstrably factual information in these threads - alas, always top posted by someone with conspiracy claims supported only by their secret or cherry picked data and blatently racist beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live in Silver Spring and I would actually like if Bethesda and Potomac had their own district. It will never happen, obviously. But they could take their particular brand of affluenza-induced anxious parenting with them. I don't mind being part of an "average" school system where my child has some hope of succeeding at high levels without lots of tutors, year-round travel sports, anxiety medication, and therapists.

Make that two parents in Silver Spring!