Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?

[Anonymous]

This is going on now in Malibu and Salt Lake City. Areas with higher performing students are working to split off from large ineffective, bureaucratic systems. The Malibu - Santa Monica split is being complicated by the amount of money Santa Monica wants from Malibu but it looks like this will eventually happen. CA actually makes it harder for systems to do this so it might be easier here in MD.

There is a tipping point in frustration when a school system only takes from one area to benefit another even if the need in the other area is greater. If students in the W clusters are no eligible for county-wide magnet programs, building renovations are constantly delayed, parents can't fund raise for things like teacher aides or facility improvements then perhaps its time to split.

[Anonymous]

School districts throughout Maryland are by county. You would have to split the county - not just the school district.

[Anonymous]

But look at Rockville and Takoma Park, incorporated cities in a sea of un-incorporated suburbia.

There is nothing to stop a school system from developing independently of a County.

[Anonymous]

You need to deal with your entitlement and racism. You cannot build a rich, majority White Island.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
But look at Rockville and Takoma Park, incorporated cities in a sea of un-incorporated suburbia.

There is nothing to stop a school system from developing independently of a County.

There is not a single town based school system in the state. Are you sure it's possible to crest one under state law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
But look at Rockville and Takoma Park, incorporated cities in a sea of un-incorporated suburbia.

There is nothing to stop a school system from developing independently of a County.

How are the schools in the Rockville City Public School and Takoma Park City Public School districts?

[Anonymous]

I'm from CA and you don't need to have a separate city, town, or county to have a school system. I doubt MD has regulated things to restrict school systems from only being county-wide. Just because its been one way in the past doesn't mean it has to be that way in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is going on now in Malibu and Salt Lake City. Areas with higher performing students are working to split off from large ineffective, bureaucratic systems. The Malibu - Santa Monica split is being complicated by the amount of money Santa Monica wants from Malibu but it looks like this will eventually happen. CA actually makes it harder for systems to do this so it might be easier here in MD.

There is a tipping point in frustration when a school system only takes from one area to benefit another even if the need in the other area is greater. If students in the W clusters are no eligible for county-wide magnet programs, building renovations are constantly delayed, parents can't fund raise for things like teacher aides or facility improvements then perhaps its time to split.

I used to read that W students dont bother with magnets since their own schools are so good..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm from CA and you don't need to have a separate city, town, or county to have a school system. I doubt MD has regulated things to restrict school systems from only being county-wide. Just because its been one way in the past doesn't mean it has to be that way in the future.

Please look up the relevant Maryland state laws and regulations, then come back to report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is going on now in Malibu and Salt Lake City. Areas with higher performing students are working to split off from large ineffective, bureaucratic systems. The Malibu - Santa Monica split is being complicated by the amount of money Santa Monica wants from Malibu but it looks like this will eventually happen. CA actually makes it harder for systems to do this so it might be easier here in MD.

There is a tipping point in frustration when a school system only takes from one area to benefit another even if the need in the other area is greater. If students in the W clusters are no eligible for county-wide magnet programs, building renovations are constantly delayed, parents can't fund raise for things like teacher aides or facility improvements then perhaps its time to split.

I used to read that W students dont bother with magnets since their own schools are so good..

That's still mostly true despite the very prolific posters complaining about the changes. Most people I know have no interest in the magnets given the travel involved. Moco probably realizes most people don't care and won't be up in arms about the changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:School districts throughout Maryland are by county. You would have to split the county - not just the school district.

Splitting the county would not be a bad idea. Incorporating some cities , ala Rockville and Chevy Chase, would also be great.
The politics of the county have become insane and the robbing from the do called ‘rich’ (aka middle class people working two jobs)for the politicians’ latest pleasure has got to end.

[Anonymous]

The arguments for the new system is that splitting off will address lack of representation and showing that a new smaller system can be more responsive to the tax payers. The argument against it is for the greater good ..ie the area leaving pays more taxes and fund a disproportionate amount of the remaining larger system which needs to be made whole. The courts look at this from a tax payer perspective and process question. Blue states like CA usually require some type of short term payment to the incumbent large system - school alimony. Red states usually don't require this and arbitrate the payment based on the remaining value of the assets going with the schools that are leaving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School districts throughout Maryland are by county. You would have to split the county - not just the school district.

Splitting the county would not be a bad idea. Incorporating some cities , ala Rockville and Chevy Chase, would also be great.
The politics of the county have become insane and the robbing from the do called ‘rich’ (aka middle class people working two jobs)for the politicians’ latest pleasure has got to end.

Rockville is already incorporated. As are the Town of Chevy Chase, Chevy Chase View, Chevy Chase Village, Village of Chevy Chase Section 3, Village of Chevy Chase Section 5, Martin's Additions, and North Chevy Chase.

Sometimes I'm astonished by how little the wealthy, educated people in Montgomery County know about their local government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
But look at Rockville and Takoma Park, incorporated cities in a sea of un-incorporated suburbia.

There is nothing to stop a school system from developing independently of a County.

There is not a single town based school system in the state. Are you sure it's possible to crest one under state law?

Sorry, I expressed myself badly. I meant, if some areas can incorporate and have their own systems to deal with public services, why can't an area request to create its own public school system?

If there is a Bethesda public school system, I wonder what effect it would have on college admissions. I assume a student would have to have slightly better grades in such a system than in the surrounding public schools, since universities will assume that families have the means to educated their children well. Of course, perhaps they do so now! If that's already the case, perhaps it would be best for residents of Bethesda to have their own schools where the curriculum can be more in-depth and teachers better paid and more intelligent.

I dream of textbooks with full color on every page and quality paper, just like I had as a child. One problem with that: backpacks get REALLY heavy

[Anonymous]

That's still mostly true despite the very prolific posters complaining about the changes. Most people I know have no interest in the magnets given the travel involved. Moco probably realizes most people don't care and won't be up in arms about the changes.

Do you live in a W district? People are pissed off. School PTAs are sending around the email from the GT group and MCPS. A much broader group of people now know that W schools are no longer eligible for magnets yet our tax dollars go toward them just like the other 100+ school.

I think things like not having to accept things like 2.0, allowing an area to decide if it wants to raise taxes that go directly toward smaller class sizes rather than just having their taxes raised and getting fewer teachers, allowing PTA to fund raise for meaningful things in the school not just the social stuff are pretty compelling.

The W schools aren't getting much from MCPS.