Why is it a contest to you? Why must you diminish one man in order to raise up another? I think that's the question you should be asking yourself. And why does appreciating Kyle's service have to turn into a race war for you? Do you have a financial stake in Selma? Are you a paid activist? Or simply someone who wants a weird, twisted justice? I don't understand why you feel so strongly about this issue. |
Me?? I did not initiate this comparison, the other poster did. And no, I do not have a financial stake in Selma. Nor have I seen it. ![]() I noticed that neither this poster nor you are going to answer my question. |
What mkes you think, given your hostility, that you deserve an answer? |
Nevermind - that is not even what said and I even commended him for doing his duty in my earlier post. The soldiers that I know are proud of the fact that they did their duty well but they do not harp on the fact that they killed X number of people and they would be uncomfortable if those around them did it. But you are right....different strokes. |
But how is writing a book AFTER other people have spread word of mouth about you ' harping on the fact'? Many vets have written books. One day I hope my spouse does. It would be fascinating. You just seem so negative/hostile about his right to own and discuss his experience. You are right - many vets do not talk about their experiences. It does not undermine their accomplishments or quiet pride in their work that he was very atypical, it created a huge buzz, and people wanted to know more about him.which he responded to. |
Me again and I just want to add that I personally am a little tired of the attitude about talking about it..i think that it is a stressful job with huge responsibility and baggage. The idea that people in the military can never complain or celebrate their jobs because they are breaking some.kind of code of honor is really tired. Its one thing if you are breaking national security by talking but Chris Kyle was not. The expectation to button up and repress everything about military life probably leads to ptsd and suicide. No one is supposed ton'talk about' anything in military culture . With your unique vantage point, what do you think? I think Chris Kyle provided an outlet for a lot of people who never get to talk about anything. |
love the sniper.
hate the commies. |
Oh a rhetorical question as a response. How surprising. |
Its not rhetorical. Im asking you why you feel you deserve an answer, given your accusations and level of snark. |
Not the PP whom you are addressing, but wanted to point out that what created the "huge buzz" was his outright lie about Jesse Ventura. |
I would not say I was negative or hostile about him. In fact, after I gave my opinion, folks were much more hostile towards me. But that's fine. I think our disagreement is a matter of opinion and perspective and we are all entitled to our own. Kyle was a great soldier and I commended him more than once for that. Where I think we disagree is how to phrase his accomplishments. Personally, this may be semantics but I think his accomplishment is that he served his country with honor and saved the lives of American soldiers. He also has brought attention to PTSD and the challenges of military familes - which I think is EQUALLY as important. Saying that his major accomplishment was that he killed 250+ terrorists just makes me uncomfortable. I am 100% sure that I have that perspective because of my DH - who believes that taking a life was a necessary evil of doing his duty and defending our country. He takes no pleasure in having done it and he did not take it lightly - his view is that he needed to kill them to protect himself and his mates. And truth be told, a lot of his emotional problems after coming home resulted from seeing people he knew die but also having to kill to survive. Some soldiers have difficulty dehumanizing the enemy - especially after the fact. My DH was one. So yea...I admit I approached this whole issue based on what my DH and my family have dealt with. All that being said, I enjoyed the movie. Anyhow, this is getting a little too emotional for me so I am bowing out. I respect your opinion and perspective. I just do not share it. |
No it wasn't. Just to people that don't listen to normal news. You know the ones that get their news from social media and gossip sites. It buzzed for them then. But for educated people who followed the war, no he was very well known, appreciated and respected. But yes continue to smear a deceased veteran. I am sure it will give you a more fulfilling weekend. |
Because he was a liar and a cheater and he gets more credit than others that fought for Civil Rights and to end segregation. And really, we aren't much better off these days because there continues to be racism and reverse racism everywhere. It always turns black vs white. Like you trying to bully people to think this man was a god and no other person can look higher than him. That people can not have their own opinion without being labeled a racist. I respect Kyle for not only protecting all US soldiers (black and white) but overcoming PTSD and staying a family man. True to his roots. MLK plagerised his doctorate thesis, used his power to consistently cheat on his wife, used black women like whores. If social media was around then, I am sure more would be uncovered. |
Another PP here. For the record, MLK mostly slept with White women. Anyways, I am not sure why it is necessary to draw this line in the sand on either side. MLK's place in history is undeniable because he was the FACE of a larger movement. MOST people with sense realize that the movement was bigger than him and celebrating his birthday serves as a representative celebration of all those who made similar sacrifices. Similar to how we celebrate and glorify generals for the sacrifices that the men under them made. Saying that Kyle is a great soldier does not take away from MLK and vice versa. It is a dumb ass comparison to make and it is only relvant to this conversation because some troll made a reference to Selma in response to someone criticizing American Sniper. |
Was OJ innocent? Casey Anthony? According to the verdicts, yes...depends on which witnesses you believe. |