Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

There is nothing wrong with advocating for a school to be fixed. And parents shouldn’t be “punished” for doing so. I think a lot of us went to high schools that were in pretty terrible shape. The only difference is now there is internet and camera phones where these things didn’t exist when I was in high school-so making horrible conditions known is much much easier. Do I think there would have been such strong advocacy if this was going to be the known outcome? I’m going to say no. Changing the entire dynamic of a school because you want it fixed is not fair.

The rest of us are not saying your first ask was unreasonable. We are saying you got a solution from MCPS, but you did not like it and pushed back against MCPS again, so don't whine if MCPS listens to you again and stops Option H. You were given a chance that you did not take, again, when you were only 3rd in line for renovations. Honestly, MCPS was being generous towards Wootton by proposing Option H. There are many times MCPS sucks but not this time.

And about the dynamic, are you so afraid of your kids being friends with Black and Hispanic people?

We are Asian and my kid goes to a DCC school and most of my kid's friends are Hispanic and Black (the school has 60% Hispanic population). They are all just fine.

The racism from Wootton parents is insufferable.

Yet, the only people being racist are you when you constantly bring it up when it literally wasn’t even relevant to the previous comment.

Really? "Dynamic" - what dynamic??

Maybe the one where it’s in a completely different place? the one where the walkable families can no longer walk? Maybe that dynamic?

But there are plenty of Wootton families that will now be able to walk if they are moved to Crown. We live literally across the street from Crown and my kid takes a bus to Wootton everyday. It just shifts who can walk and who takes a bus, it doesn't eliminate all walkers.

You know your particular area should have never been zoned for Wootton in the first place-so absolutely makes sense for you to go to Crown. And you should fight to go! And those of us walkable to Wootton should get to keep our school.

Yeah it’s kinda ridiculous that Rio people are fighting against whole Wootton to move to crown.

We are not. It's only a small subset that are talking about walkability. The main thing is not walkability. It's just an excuse because you don't want to say we don't want the low SES kids mingling with ours

Actually why don’t you say what YOU mean. You don’t want Crown for yourself if it means you don’t get All of Wootton to come with you because YOU want the Wootton ratings more than you want the walkability. Crown is walkable for you-You should be fighting to be in it no matter what is happening with Wootton. But YOU want to stay in Wootton for the reasons you are actually accusing others for who just want to keep walking to their home school.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

Have the Wootton faculty and staff clearly rejected the option? I doubt it.

I don’t think the people employed there care unless they have kids in the cluster. The students don’t want to move though-if you care at all about them. If it’s just a job to them-who wouldn’t want to move to a new facility-some of them probably live closer to it too. But that shouldn’t be playing a role in this decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

Have the Wootton faculty and staff clearly rejected the option? I doubt it.

I don’t think the people employed there care unless they have kids in the cluster. The students don’t want to move though-if you care at all about them. If it’s just a job to them-who wouldn’t want to move to a new facility-some of them probably live closer to it too. But that shouldn’t be playing a role in this decision.

Seriously? The teachers— who have and could spend decades, not 4 years— in that building, aren’t stakeholders?

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

Have the Wootton faculty and staff clearly rejected the option? I doubt it.

I don’t think the people employed there care unless they have kids in the cluster. The students don’t want to move though-if you care at all about them. If it’s just a job to them-who wouldn’t want to move to a new facility-some of them probably live closer to it too. But that shouldn’t be playing a role in this decision.

Seriously? The teachers— who have and could spend decades, not 4 years— in that building, aren’t stakeholders?

Teachers aren't tied to the school in the same way families are. Families have very little option, they have to literally sell there house to get a different school.

So, no not really stake holders, plus we can always get different teachers, like any other professional.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

Have the Wootton faculty and staff clearly rejected the option? I doubt it.

I don’t think the people employed there care unless they have kids in the cluster. The students don’t want to move though-if you care at all about them. If it’s just a job to them-who wouldn’t want to move to a new facility-some of them probably live closer to it too. But that shouldn’t be playing a role in this decision.

Seriously? The teachers— who have and could spend decades, not 4 years— in that building, aren’t stakeholders?

Teachers aren't tied to the school in the same way families are. Families have very little option, they have to literally sell there house to get a different school.

So, no not really stake holders, plus we can always get different teachers, like any other professional.

exactly-I’m the pp and i’m not sure why that wasn’t easily understood to the other pp. A teacher can get a transfer whenever and a teacher with experience can pretty much teach wherever they want-there is a huge shortage. So no-they are non stakeholders. If my kid could just apply for a simple transfer every time they wanted a new school we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

You sound like sympathy would get Wootton a new building. If that’s true, Wootton would have been renovated a long time ago. So are other schools waiting to be renovated. Bullying and threatening don’t work either.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

Have the Wootton faculty and staff clearly rejected the option? I doubt it.

I don’t think the people employed there care unless they have kids in the cluster. The students don’t want to move though-if you care at all about them. If it’s just a job to them-who wouldn’t want to move to a new facility-some of them probably live closer to it too. But that shouldn’t be playing a role in this decision.

Seriously? The teachers— who have and could spend decades, not 4 years— in that building, aren’t stakeholders?

Teachers aren't tied to the school in the same way families are. Families have very little option, they have to literally sell there house to get a different school.

So, no not really stake holders, plus we can always get different teachers, like any other professional.

exactly-I’m the pp and i’m not sure why that wasn’t easily understood to the other pp. A teacher can get a transfer whenever and a teacher with experience can pretty much teach wherever they want-there is a huge shortage. So no-they are non stakeholders. If my kid could just apply for a simple transfer every time they wanted a new school we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

I'm sympathetic to working conditions. I just don't see it being different than other professions. And frankly it seems like the teaching is actually quite poor across MCPS. Throw out Wootton and the other ten schools the rest of MCPS is substandard.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

You sound like sympathy would get Wootton a new building. If that’s true, Wootton would have been renovated a long time ago. So are other schools waiting to be renovated. Bullying and threatening don’t work either.

Yeah, the "no sympathy" angle is just wrong. We all should have sympathy for those in bad situations, and Wootton has been back-burnered for quite a long time, much like Eastern MS and others. The tolerance of poor conditions by the County Council, which is what happens when they fail to fund the CIP request, is abominable.

On the other hand, since there are many different communities' needs in play, MCPS shouldn't be making a decision based purely on sympathy for one community if the end result of that is less equitable, overall.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

That DP to whom you reaponded. I'm not the one saying that Wootton families should shut up and have to tolerate the poor facility condition if they don't accept the move to Crown. However, the "whole community" is the whole county, and it seems that the Wootton community is not unified in opposition, with many finding the proposal a reasonable, if not perfect, solution. I have no real idea of the proportions for/against, of course.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

That DP to whom you reaponded. I'm not the one saying that Wootton families should shut up and have to tolerate the poor facility condition if they don't accept the move to Crown. However, the "whole community" is the whole county, and it seems that the Wootton community is not unified in opposition, with many finding the proposal a reasonable, if not perfect, solution. I have no real idea of the proportions for/against, of course.

Well actually they are taking a general survey that everyone can fill out in the county (or really I guess wherever-it’s not like they check) but there are focused positions coming from the affected schools/clusters themselves which are much more meaningful and important-like the specific cluster representatives citing data. That is how the original options were changed/taken out not because of random county residents’ opinions.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

Have the Wootton faculty and staff clearly rejected the option? I doubt it.

I don’t think the people employed there care unless they have kids in the cluster. The students don’t want to move though-if you care at all about them. If it’s just a job to them-who wouldn’t want to move to a new facility-some of them probably live closer to it too. But that shouldn’t be playing a role in this decision.

Seriously? The teachers— who have and could spend decades, not 4 years— in that building, aren’t stakeholders?

Teachers aren't tied to the school in the same way families are. Families have very little option, they have to literally sell there house to get a different school.

So, no not really stake holders, plus we can always get different teachers, like any other professional.

exactly-I’m the pp and i’m not sure why that wasn’t easily understood to the other pp. A teacher can get a transfer whenever and a teacher with experience can pretty much teach wherever they want-there is a huge shortage. So no-they are non stakeholders. If my kid could just apply for a simple transfer every time they wanted a new school we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Ok. Well as long as you see teachers as disposable and interchangeable I guess it won’t be a problem if a bunch leave because they don’t want to stay in a moldy building. (But I suspect you don’t actually have kids in school.)

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the 20878 area and the amount of people posting on nextdoor about save Wootton, you would think the sky is falling.

The Moderately Moco guy is also there trying to push out option H. I guess he lives in that area.

No one gives a damn about Dufief.

And today's post showed a picture with a room full of Asians and whites at Wootton's townhall. You know who is against option H.

One woman said it right - to quote her: "We know what this is truly about. If you do not want your kids to mingle with the "lower class" residents of upper Montgomery County just say so. If it is that bad. There are many private schools in your area or even better homeschooling. Just saying.."

What a bunch of noisemakers - first they want a new building and sign a petition and then when MCPS addresses it they start another petition.

I was there in person and didn’t hear any racist comment like this. The discussion was focused on Wootton renovation. It’s far too easy for someone with a conflict of interest or a personal grudge to fabricate a racist remark and make Wootton look bad.”

What lower class upper Mo Co residents? the ones that bought $1 million houses in Criwn? There wre no comments like that, that person was lying. Also how’s Crown upper MoCo?

There are a lot of Asian haters

True, but I'm an Asian parent in another cluster, and IMO, Wootton at Crown makes perfect sense given the financial constraints and declining enrollment.

You think it makes perfect sense because you aren’t being harmed by it. You said yourself that you are in a different cluster.

I stated I was Asian because dcum likes to dump on Asians, and not all Asians are created equal.

Yes, it's easier to accept when you're not "harmed" by it, and it's harder to accept when you are emotional about it.

Logically, Wootton at Crown makes the most sense.

If you don’t live in Wootton district and don’t understand how Wootton community feels, then it doesn’t matter what makes sense to you.

I don't need to live in the Wootton cluster to know what makes logical sense.

Declining enrollment, huge budget shortfall, brand new HS, and you think it makes logical financial sense to fix up Wootton? That's an emotional decision, not a logical one.

That’s because you’re viewing this through a narrow lens, missing the real challenges of losing a community center to the local residents. It’s not just about MCPS as relocating or closing Wootton would cause major economic disruption for Rockville city too. It’s not that simple.

What? Please enlighten us about this major economic disruption...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the 20878 area and the amount of people posting on nextdoor about save Wootton, you would think the sky is falling.

The Moderately Moco guy is also there trying to push out option H. I guess he lives in that area.

No one gives a damn about Dufief.

And today's post showed a picture with a room full of Asians and whites at Wootton's townhall. You know who is against option H.

One woman said it right - to quote her: "We know what this is truly about. If you do not want your kids to mingle with the "lower class" residents of upper Montgomery County just say so. If it is that bad. There are many private schools in your area or even better homeschooling. Just saying.."

What a bunch of noisemakers - first they want a new building and sign a petition and then when MCPS addresses it they start another petition.

I was there in person and didn’t hear any racist comment like this. The discussion was focused on Wootton renovation. It’s far too easy for someone with a conflict of interest or a personal grudge to fabricate a racist remark and make Wootton look bad.”

What lower class upper Mo Co residents? the ones that bought $1 million houses in Criwn? There wre no comments like that, that person was lying. Also how’s Crown upper MoCo?

There are a lot of Asian haters

True, but I'm an Asian parent in another cluster, and IMO, Wootton at Crown makes perfect sense given the financial constraints and declining enrollment.

You think it makes perfect sense because you aren’t being harmed by it. You said yourself that you are in a different cluster.

I stated I was Asian because dcum likes to dump on Asians, and not all Asians are created equal.

Yes, it's easier to accept when you're not "harmed" by it, and it's harder to accept when you are emotional about it.

Logically, Wootton at Crown makes the most sense.

If you don’t live in Wootton district and don’t understand how Wootton community feels, then it doesn’t matter what makes sense to you.

I don't need to live in the Wootton cluster to know what makes logical sense.

Declining enrollment, huge budget shortfall, brand new HS, and you think it makes logical financial sense to fix up Wootton? That's an emotional decision, not a logical one.

That’s because you’re viewing this through a narrow lens, missing the real challenges of losing a community center to the local residents. It’s not just about MCPS as relocating or closing Wootton would cause major economic disruption for Rockville city too. It’s not that simple.

What? Please enlighten us about this major economic disruption...

I'm wondering too.

Lol. The extent that Wootton parents can go to.

If there is an economic disruption in Rockville, then there will be an economic boom in Gaithersburg.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the 20878 area and the amount of people posting on nextdoor about save Wootton, you would think the sky is falling.

The Moderately Moco guy is also there trying to push out option H. I guess he lives in that area.

No one gives a damn about Dufief.

And today's post showed a picture with a room full of Asians and whites at Wootton's townhall. You know who is against option H.

One woman said it right - to quote her: "We know what this is truly about. If you do not want your kids to mingle with the "lower class" residents of upper Montgomery County just say so. If it is that bad. There are many private schools in your area or even better homeschooling. Just saying.."

What a bunch of noisemakers - first they want a new building and sign a petition and then when MCPS addresses it they start another petition.

I was there in person and didn’t hear any racist comment like this. The discussion was focused on Wootton renovation. It’s far too easy for someone with a conflict of interest or a personal grudge to fabricate a racist remark and make Wootton look bad.”

What lower class upper Mo Co residents? the ones that bought $1 million houses in Criwn? There wre no comments like that, that person was lying. Also how’s Crown upper MoCo?

There are a lot of Asian haters

True, but I'm an Asian parent in another cluster, and IMO, Wootton at Crown makes perfect sense given the financial constraints and declining enrollment.

You think it makes perfect sense because you aren’t being harmed by it. You said yourself that you are in a different cluster.

I stated I was Asian because dcum likes to dump on Asians, and not all Asians are created equal.

Yes, it's easier to accept when you're not "harmed" by it, and it's harder to accept when you are emotional about it.

Logically, Wootton at Crown makes the most sense.

If you don’t live in Wootton district and don’t understand how Wootton community feels, then it doesn’t matter what makes sense to you.

I don't need to live in the Wootton cluster to know what makes logical sense.

Declining enrollment, huge budget shortfall, brand new HS, and you think it makes logical financial sense to fix up Wootton? That's an emotional decision, not a logical one.

That’s because you’re viewing this through a narrow lens, missing the real challenges of losing a community center to the local residents. It’s not just about MCPS as relocating or closing Wootton would cause major economic disruption for Rockville city too. It’s not that simple.

What? Please enlighten us about this major economic disruption...

I'm wondering too.

Lol. The extent that Wootton parents can go to.

If there is an economic disruption in Rockville, then there will be an economic boom in Gaithersburg.

Hard to say as many will rather move to Churchill instead. So shifting economical center from Rockville to Gaithersburg is not a big decision to make?