Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

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This whole post reeks of parents with major inferiority complex. It's the same parents who rely on the experiences of their children for their self-worth: My kid is better looking/my kid isn't racist/my kid is more outgoing/my kid is a genius/my kid has better manners than your kid. Good grief, get a grip! You all are worse than the annoying fools here who love to pit Northern Virginia against Maryland.

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Anonymous wrote:The tours were took in the spring of a few T20s it seemed like Caucasian American kids were a small minority of the overall student body. Indian and Asian were the clear majority, then Jewish, Hispanic, Arabic, and Black American and Nigerian kids. It felt like a UN summit.

This x1000. It was shocking. I get why people are outraged. It is 100% manufactured ratios and keeping out smart, UMC, high achieving kids SOLEY because they are white. They want that DEI. Best thing Trump has ever done is force these schools to scrap their ridiculous DEI efforts. And I am a liberal democrat! DEI just reached the point of absurdity.

My high achieving UMC white kid was accepted at multiple top 15 schools in 2023 (so before the Supreme Court ruling), as were several of his white friends.

No truly high achieving kids of any race are getting kept out of anywhere.

BTW, my kid’s Ivy campus is like 40% white…I find it interesting that someone differentiates Jewish kids who are also Caucasian American white as though they are Amish or some strange sect.

Sure, some get in. But once you tour do you still want to attend, let alone blow $400K to send your kid to school with no few white Christian peers? The whole vibe is off.

White “christian” nationalists represent!

What a completely obnoxious post by the PP.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

The greatest levels of Obesity are in the South.....try again.

Go on TikTok and see the fit SEC students that are in better shape than you could ever dream of.

Oh right because a few TikTok videos is the true measure of reality. What a moron.

Fine, go visit and see for yourself. You’re either really dumb or maybe out of shape and jealous.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2

LOL. Citing the Murdoch owned Times propaganda rag to push a narrative that the MAGA movement is desperate to mainstream is pretty funny. Skimming that article, I didn’t see any actual evidence of the central claim of that article - that kids who COULD go to elite northeastern schools are going to UofSC (it hasn’t been USC officially for quite a while). UofSC could be just mostly admitting kids who would otherwise go to SUNY.

-UofSC alum

MAGAs DGAF about facts.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

The greatest levels of Obesity are in the South.....try again.

Go on TikTok and see the fit SEC students that are in better shape than you could ever dream of.

Oh right because a few TikTok videos is the true measure of reality. What a moron.

Fine, go visit and see for yourself. You’re either really dumb or maybe out of shape and jealous.

Another unintelligent response to no surprise given that you base your reality on a few TikTok videos. What are you, 11?

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Nice phony Troll job. Try better next time.

You might want to check out the actual numbers for a school like Ole Miss before you open your piehole.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zkKqpes6AHDRsUFPDK37u39NIIgfMwdf/view

Ole Miss has low stats, you’re right. Louisville also has low stats, so I guess the entire ACC sucks. UVA, UNC, BC must be terrible colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2

A bigger factor is cost. Even out of state a South Carolina or Florida is a major bargain. My DD would likely walk away from most public southern schools debt free. At Alabama and Ole Miss her scores would mean big scholarships and allow her to use her college savings for grad school.

That is great. Go and enjoy. Why can't you do that without trashing students that prefer MIT as loser dorks? Different strokes for different folks.

Sure, as soon as the other side starts showing some respect for the SEC and those that choose that route. You get what you give.

DP

Respect for what exactly? The hardest partiers?

Case in point. You’re incapable of being a decent human being

Are you the PP calling students “loser dorks”?

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Anonymous wrote:The tours were took in the spring of a few T20s it seemed like Caucasian American kids were a small minority of the overall student body. Indian and Asian were the clear majority, then Jewish, Hispanic, Arabic, and Black American and Nigerian kids. It felt like a UN summit.

This x1000. It was shocking. I get why people are outraged. It is 100% manufactured ratios and keeping out smart, UMC, high achieving kids SOLEY because they are white. They want that DEI. Best thing Trump has ever done is force these schools to scrap their ridiculous DEI efforts. And I am a liberal democrat! DEI just reached the point of absurdity.

My high achieving UMC white kid was accepted at multiple top 15 schools in 2023 (so before the Supreme Court ruling), as were several of his white friends.

No truly high achieving kids of any race are getting kept out of anywhere.

BTW, my kid’s Ivy campus is like 40% white…I find it interesting that someone differentiates Jewish kids who are also Caucasian American white as though they are Amish or some strange sect.

Sure, some get in. But once you tour do you still want to attend, let alone blow $400K to send your kid to school with no few white Christian peers? The whole vibe is off.

Maybe like 10% of all college kids are religious (except at religious colleges).

My kid only cares that people are religiously moderate, but could care less if someone is Christian or not.

All that said, a good 20%-25% identify as white Christian, which is plenty.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a cope for dumb rich kids that can’t get into a decent college.

Wrong. You can’t buy your way into top SEC schools. The old fashioned top private colleges used legacy and all kinds of unethical tools to make sure dumb rich kids could get in. Remember those “counselor calls” that your CCO made for you? Good luck getting an SEC school to pick up the phone for you.

With 60%+ acceptance rates you don’t need to do anything to get into South Carolina other than be able to read

So 40% didn’t get in? 65,000 apps means 26,000 kids didn’t make it in. That’s a lot of rejections, your kid was probably one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

The greatest levels of Obesity are in the South.....try again.

Go on TikTok and see the fit SEC students that are in better shape than you could ever dream of.

Oh right because a few TikTok videos is the true measure of reality. What a moron.

Fine, go visit and see for yourself. You’re either really dumb or maybe out of shape and jealous.

Another unintelligent response to no surprise given that you base your reality on a few TikTok videos. What are you, 11?

You obviously have never set foot on an SEC campus. Or you have and you’re seething with jealousy. It’s so funny, please keep posting and digging your hole, you’re hilarious!

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2

A bigger factor is cost. Even out of state a South Carolina or Florida is a major bargain. My DD would likely walk away from most public southern schools debt free. At Alabama and Ole Miss her scores would mean big scholarships and allow her to use her college savings for grad school.

That is great. Go and enjoy. Why can't you do that without trashing students that prefer MIT as loser dorks? Different strokes for different folks.

Sure, as soon as the other side starts showing some respect for the SEC and those that choose that route. You get what you give.

DP

Respect for what exactly? The hardest partiers?

Case in point. You’re incapable of being a decent human being

Are you the PP calling students “loser dorks”?

Huh? You seem confused, try to keep up without getting your wires crossed.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t argue with the data they cite. Seems to boil down to fun and sunny weather. Ivy League losing its cachet. Ivy match kids increasingly prefer Vandy and Duke or a full merit scholarship at Alabama.

Why young Americans are shunning elite universities for the Deep South. Social life, sunshine and picturesque campuses are luring students from the northeast to colleges in South Carolina, Alabama and more.

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/why-young-americans-are-shunning-elite-universities-for-the-deep-south-2ktn6fmv2

clickbait

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

The greatest levels of Obesity are in the South.....try again.

Go on TikTok and see the fit SEC students that are in better shape than you could ever dream of.

Oh right because a few TikTok videos is the true measure of reality. What a moron.

Fine, go visit and see for yourself. You’re either really dumb or maybe out of shape and jealous.

Another unintelligent response to no surprise given that you base your reality on a few TikTok videos. What are you, 11?

You obviously have never set foot on an SEC campus. Or you have and you’re seething with jealousy. It’s so funny, please keep posting and digging your hole, you’re hilarious!

And you keep proving the case that you're a moron; you should just give up. I've been to plenty of campuses during college visits and I have a kid in the SEC and another one at a Big 10. I mean, did you even go to college? Doubt it.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Thank you for your post in this thread.

Do you teach any sections in the Honors College at your SEC university ? If yes, any difference with respect to students and regarding material covered ?

Is it safe to assume that you do not teach at Vanderbilt or at the University of Georgia ?

Don’t feed this troll. At least have Jeff check the IP to see if this “professor” is outside the beltway.

Karen, do you have any idea how DCUM actually works?

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Anonymous wrote:Social media influence.

I can only speak for myself but it’s stunning how clueless we were about the rest of the country in the 80s and 90s. Social media and YouTube has made kids hyper aware of these colleges and regions before a campus tour. To me as a dumb propagandized high schooler in the 80s, the south seemed a world away, backwater, full of dumb and slow hicks. To kids now, the south is booming and fun, students look happy and attractive, academic programs are world class, merit scholarships can be life changing, and you get sunny weather instead of the cold, snow and grey skies.

What is with parents talking about the attractiveness of students?

World class academics? Really. Trump won with students at Alabama. Proof enough it’s not the place for serious students.

Gross x2

Plenty of writers used to write about how everyone at Yale and Stanford were attractive overachievers; from Fitzgerald a hundred years ago to Ann Coulter and David Brooks 20 years ago.

People instinctively appreciate beauty. People instinctively appreciate happy and confident young adults. There’s a certain energy to these booming southern campuses. Night and day from the gloomy, foreigner-filled campuses in the north and northeast.

I think like this triggers you ruthless striver parents. Y’all know no amount of scamming and helicopter parenting can get your kid into a top tier sorority or fraternity in the south.

This is of zero appeal to nearly everyone at top schools.

There was just a 30+ page thread on here about parents hoping their kid meets a spouse at college. This forum is full of strivers living through their kids, hoping they mix with and marry a gorgeous, high-born peer. The tiger mom and dad strivers can't penetrate these southern schools and their hyper-exclusive private fraternities and sororities. They also know if this trend continues and the rich and gorgeous American teens go south, the alleged prestige of their kid's "Top 20 U.S. News" northern and northeast college means squat. It's actually going to be a negative signal on your resume, while a southern school and whatever Greek house you were in will be a wink-wink signal you're normal, attractive, charismatic, smart and ambitious.

That is some serious Copium

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