Elon is coming for social security

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now Johnson is repeating Elon's claim that most SS payments are fraudulent. Big cuts are coming, but they're just going to claim they were actually "fraud."

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My guess it they will start a "freeze" social security disability payments while they conduct a "review" to determine which ones are "fraud." That would be in line with how they've done the USAID and NIH cuts. They will go after SSDI first because that's not as politically popular.

SSDI is retirement for a huge percentage of blue collar workers. It's going to become real popular pretty quickly once it stops

That shouldn't be the case. Those benefits should be carefully scrutinized.

[Anonymous]

Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now Johnson is repeating Elon's claim that most SS payments are fraudulent. Big cuts are coming, but they're just going to claim they were actually "fraud."

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Liar.

Johnson is in fact a liar. As is Musk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

Are you ok with old people starving to death? Never mind, you probably are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now Johnson is repeating Elon's claim that most SS payments are fraudulent. Big cuts are coming, but they're just going to claim they were actually "fraud."

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljfyyh4kvd2y

Liar.

Johnson is in fact a liar. As is Musk.

Yes, his version of Christianity evidently has nothing against lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

Sure, right after the government gives me (and everyone else) every dollar I paid in (with interest).

You can just sign yours over to Elon (right after you give Trump your teen daughter). MAGA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.

The average American is not rich or know about investing like you. The average American makes 60k a year, would lose their nest egg, and would be on government assistance in old age anyway. You might not want to hear this because you’re a sophisticated rich educated person but most people aren’t you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.

For the millionth time, SS is not a 401k. It’s an insurance program. It’s designed to support all workers, including those who would not invest wisely, or those who did not have the disposable income to set aside money for investments. Why? Because we aren’t animals, and we believe that the very act of working your entire life gives you the right not to go hungry in your old age. Is that really an odious concept for the world’s wealthiest nation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.

The average American is not rich or know about investing like you. The average American makes 60k a year, would lose their nest egg, and would be on government assistance in old age anyway. You might not want to hear this because you’re a sophisticated rich educated person but most people aren’t you.

Great, make a pool for them and don't make it mandatory for everyone else. Let people choose what's right for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.

The average American is not rich or know about investing like you. The average American makes 60k a year, would lose their nest egg, and would be on government assistance in old age anyway. You might not want to hear this because you’re a sophisticated rich educated person but most people aren’t you.

Great, make a pool for them and don't make it mandatory for everyone else. Let people choose what's right for them.

And where do you think the money for that pool would come from?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just get rid of social security let everyone save for themselves

I'd love to have all my Social Security taxes back. Most people would do far better in the market.

The average American is not rich or know about investing like you. The average American makes 60k a year, would lose their nest egg, and would be on government assistance in old age anyway. You might not want to hear this because you’re a sophisticated rich educated person but most people aren’t you.

Great, make a pool for them and don't make it mandatory for everyone else. Let people choose what's right for them.

That’s idiotic. You don’t know when your earning potential might change (due to disability, illness, a change in your field).

[Anonymous]

If not private pension company would back as with a pool of only those people willing to participate then it is not a solvent program.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now Johnson is repeating Elon's claim that most SS payments are fraudulent. Big cuts are coming, but they're just going to claim they were actually "fraud."

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljfyyh4kvd2y

My guess it they will start a "freeze" social security disability payments while they conduct a "review" to determine which ones are "fraud." That would be in line with how they've done the USAID and NIH cuts. They will go after SSDI first because that's not as politically popular.

Everyone— even IQ of 45, never learned to walk or talk and wears a diaper— is re-reviewed every 1 to 7 years, depending on how close to retirement they are and the likelihood of their condition improving. New medical records, brand new look. And we can’t keep up with that and our other statutory caseloads. Cut us 50% and see if anyone ever has a CDR again.

Also SSDI is the politically popular one because it’s earned and paid into through FICA and is financially solvent. SSI is the welfare piece where with all the “fraud” is. All $400 a month that you get. If you are going to discuss SS disability (and it’s important. We should be discussing it), master the basics.

Also, as someone who spent last week trying to get someone on SSI before he died of stage 4 cancer (because he’d been waiting 15 months in our backlog while his house went into foreclosure and SSI doesn't do back payments for his family if he died before he went into pay status)— I can assure you that it really is not easy to commit fraud and get on SSI. Like anything regulatory, you get mismatches— people who probably could work but clearly meet the regulatory requirements and get benefits and people who clearly cannot work and also can’t qualify because one lab number is off. It sucks, but us unelected bureaucrats have to follow the law, we don get to decide that the regulations give us the wrong and ignore it.

Also, bite me Elmo. Every 5 point bulleted list I make telling you I did CDRs is a CDR that doesn’t get done. Efficiency my a@@.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now Johnson is repeating Elon's claim that most SS payments are fraudulent. Big cuts are coming, but they're just going to claim they were actually "fraud."

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ljfyyh4kvd2y

My guess it they will start a "freeze" social security disability payments while they conduct a "review" to determine which ones are "fraud." That would be in line with how they've done the USAID and NIH cuts. They will go after SSDI first because that's not as politically popular.

SSDI is retirement for a huge percentage of blue collar workers. It's going to become real popular pretty quickly once it stops

This is true in a way you wouldn’t expect. SSDI brings with it Medicaid/Medicare. Lot of 60 year olds out there who are trying to get SSI/SSDI more for the medical insurance that the money.