Why did God create pediatric cancer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:*So you would create non-humans without their own thoughts and feelings.*

Sorry, the first sentence was mistyped.

I never said that. God can’t create a space or people with free will but no evil?

Well then heaven is gonna SUCK.

So how can people have free will if God takes the ability of humans to choose for themselves away?


Free will is free. Totally free. Free will is not predetermined, programmed, AI creatures that look like humans, talk like humans, but aren’t human. Humans are individual beings.


We are unable to fully serve God in this life due to sin, but in heaven "every curse will no longer be" (Revelation 22:3). We will not be under the curse of sin any longer, so everything we do will be worship in heaven. We will never be motivated by anything other than our love for God. Everything we do will be out of our love for God, untainted by our sin nature.

Heaven is a different place than earth. But really since you don’t believe in God, why do you care? You don’t believe in any of this stuff; why are you so worried about it?

This has zero bearing on your life, why is it so important you endlessly debate things you don’t believe in?

Answer this question: Is there free will in heaven?

Answer this question: Do you believe in God?

regarding your question: Adam and Eve had a choice to make in the Garden of Eden, and that shows beyond all doubt that mankind was created with a free will.


Humans has retained his free will, and we will retain free will in heaven.

In heaven we are completely conformed to the image of Christ (Romans 8:28–30). We will not want to sin. In heaven there will be no temptation to lure us and no devil to deceive us. We will face no test; our moral state will be secure. Jesus has a truly free will yet is without sin, so will we retain a free will yet be without sin. We will be like Him.

(1 John 3:2).

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

So you refuse to answer the question?

Is there free Will in heaven?

Answer this question: Do you believe in God?

regarding your question: Adam and Eve had a choice to make in the Garden of Eden, and that shows beyond all doubt that mankind was created with a free will.


Humans has retained his free will, and we will retain free will in heaven.

In heaven we are completely conformed to the image of Christ (Romans 8:28–30). We will not want to sin. In heaven there will be no temptation to lure us and no devil to deceive us. We will face no test; our moral state will be secure. Jesus has a truly free will yet is without sin, so will we retain a free will yet be without sin. We will be like Him.

(1 John 3:2).

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What explains the suffering of children to people who aren’t religious? Is it just random terrible things, and then the child suffers and dies and is snuffed out of existence?

To some, I think. A friend who was atheist was dying of a terrible illness and that is certainly how he viewed it. I lived, I suffer, I die, and am no more. I found it very sad that he viewed life as so pointless, but others found his point of view somehow comforting.

Did he say life was pointless, or did you imagine it?
It's quite sad that you find life so pointless that you wish for something to exist outside of life to give it a point.

What’s the point in the life of a baby with cancer? They suffer and die, what is the point to their lives?

I’d like to know the answer to this too. Can someone explain how they view this secularly?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not religious but here's the way of think of "why do bad things happen to good people": In a nutshell, God was juggling a lot of balls and dropped one. So when one kid gets cancer, God didn't notice because s/he was preventing an earthquake that would have killed thousands. Something like that. It's the only thing I've come up with that both feels logical and comforts me.

So why did God create an earth that has earthquakes?

Why do you think God created an earth that has earthquakes?

I dont believe there is a loving God.

Your turn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not religious but here's the way of think of "why do bad things happen to good people": In a nutshell, God was juggling a lot of balls and dropped one. So when one kid gets cancer, God didn't notice because s/he was preventing an earthquake that would have killed thousands. Something like that. It's the only thing I've come up with that both feels logical and comforts me.

So why did God create an earth that has earthquakes?

Why do you think God created an earth that has earthquakes?

I dont believe there is a loving God.

Your turn.

Natural disasters are often termed “acts of God” while no “credit” is given to God for years, decades, or even centuries of peaceful weather.

God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on creation.

If you don’t believe in God, why are you upset other people do?

It’s not anything to do with you. People think differently about everything, and never will all agree on any topic. Do you think people should think like you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What explains the suffering of children to people who aren’t religious? Is it just random terrible things, and then the child suffers and dies and is snuffed out of existence?

To some, I think. A friend who was atheist was dying of a terrible illness and that is certainly how he viewed it. I lived, I suffer, I die, and am no more. I found it very sad that he viewed life as so pointless, but others found his point of view somehow comforting.

Did he say life was pointless, or did you imagine it?
It's quite sad that you find life so pointless that you wish for something to exist outside of life to give it a point.

What’s the point in the life of a baby with cancer? They suffer and die, what is the point to their lives?

I’d like to know the answer to this too. Can someone explain how they view this secularly?

All life on earth (and earth itself) is random. Both the suffering and the joy.
All we can do is attempt to create meaningful experiences for ourselves while we are here.

But we are still subject to randomness that cannot be expained, controlled or "prayed" away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What explains the suffering of children to people who aren’t religious? Is it just random terrible things, and then the child suffers and dies and is snuffed out of existence?

To some, I think. A friend who was atheist was dying of a terrible illness and that is certainly how he viewed it. I lived, I suffer, I die, and am no more. I found it very sad that he viewed life as so pointless, but others found his point of view somehow comforting.

Did he say life was pointless, or did you imagine it?
It's quite sad that you find life so pointless that you wish for something to exist outside of life to give it a point.

What’s the point in the life of a baby with cancer? They suffer and die, what is the point to their lives?

I’d like to know the answer to this too. Can someone explain how they view this secularly?

I guess the non-religious people don’t have an answer. No one has said anything as an answer except tragedy. Of course it’s a tragedy. But what is the point of the baby being born, dying of cancer, and then being non-existent? From the secular perspective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What explains the suffering of children to people who aren’t religious? Is it just random terrible things, and then the child suffers and dies and is snuffed out of existence?

To some, I think. A friend who was atheist was dying of a terrible illness and that is certainly how he viewed it. I lived, I suffer, I die, and am no more. I found it very sad that he viewed life as so pointless, but others found his point of view somehow comforting.

Did he say life was pointless, or did you imagine it?
It's quite sad that you find life so pointless that you wish for something to exist outside of life to give it a point.

What’s the point in the life of a baby with cancer? They suffer and die, what is the point to their lives?

I’d like to know the answer to this too. Can someone explain how they view this secularly?

All life on earth (and earth itself) is random. Both the suffering and the joy.
All we can do is attempt to create meaningful experiences for ourselves while we are here.

But we are still subject to randomness that cannot be expained, controlled or "prayed" away.

So what is the meaningful experience of a baby born, developing cancer, and dying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not religious but here's the way of think of "why do bad things happen to good people": In a nutshell, God was juggling a lot of balls and dropped one. So when one kid gets cancer, God didn't notice because s/he was preventing an earthquake that would have killed thousands. Something like that. It's the only thing I've come up with that both feels logical and comforts me.

So why did God create an earth that has earthquakes?

Can't make an Earth that doesn't quake. It's impossible. It's like making something with a left but not a right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What explains the suffering of children to people who aren’t religious? Is it just random terrible things, and then the child suffers and dies and is snuffed out of existence?

To some, I think. A friend who was atheist was dying of a terrible illness and that is certainly how he viewed it. I lived, I suffer, I die, and am no more. I found it very sad that he viewed life as so pointless, but others found his point of view somehow comforting.

Did he say life was pointless, or did you imagine it?
It's quite sad that you find life so pointless that you wish for something to exist outside of life to give it a point.

What’s the point in the life of a baby with cancer? They suffer and die, what is the point to their lives?

I’d like to know the answer to this too. Can someone explain how they view this secularly?

All life on earth (and earth itself) is random. Both the suffering and the joy.
All we can do is attempt to create meaningful experiences for ourselves while we are here.

But we are still subject to randomness that cannot be expained, controlled or "prayed" away.

So what is the meaningful experience of a baby born, developing cancer, and dying?

+1

Anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not religious but here's the way of think of "why do bad things happen to good people": In a nutshell, God was juggling a lot of balls and dropped one. So when one kid gets cancer, God didn't notice because s/he was preventing an earthquake that would have killed thousands. Something like that. It's the only thing I've come up with that both feels logical and comforts me.

So why did God create an earth that has earthquakes?

Why do you think God created an earth that has earthquakes?

I dont believe there is a loving God.

Your turn.

Natural disasters are often termed “acts of God” while no “credit” is given to God for years, decades, or even centuries of peaceful weather.

God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on creation.

If you don’t believe in God, why are you upset other people do?

It’s not anything to do with you. People think differently about everything, and never will all agree on any topic. Do you think people should think like you?

No one is forcing anyone to agree. We are having a discussion. So let us continue...

If God is the creator and hence like a parent, isn't it his job to protect us from earthquakes and cancers?

Like a father or mother is supposed to put food on the table, provide a safe home and stop the kid from getting hit by a car?

The kid is of course grateful for the good parenting, but that is not the drving force. It IS the parent's responsibility to take care of their creation.

And just because the little kid ran into the street once (or ate a forbidden apple), a parent should let them get hit by cars forever as punishment? Wouldnt that be abusive parenting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What explains the suffering of children to people who aren’t religious? Is it just random terrible things, and then the child suffers and dies and is snuffed out of existence?

To some, I think. A friend who was atheist was dying of a terrible illness and that is certainly how he viewed it. I lived, I suffer, I die, and am no more. I found it very sad that he viewed life as so pointless, but others found his point of view somehow comforting.

Did he say life was pointless, or did you imagine it?
It's quite sad that you find life so pointless that you wish for something to exist outside of life to give it a point.

What’s the point in the life of a baby with cancer? They suffer and die, what is the point to their lives?

I’d like to know the answer to this too. Can someone explain how they view this secularly?

All life on earth (and earth itself) is random. Both the suffering and the joy.
All we can do is attempt to create meaningful experiences for ourselves while we are here.

But we are still subject to randomness that cannot be expained, controlled or "prayed" away.

So what is the meaningful experience of a baby born, developing cancer, and dying?

+1

Anyone?

Nothing at all. I said we can "try" to create a meaningful experience for ourselves, but yes that child likely cannot. It is the proof of the world's randomness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:*So you would create non-humans without their own thoughts and feelings.*

Sorry, the first sentence was mistyped.

I never said that. God can’t create a space or people with free will but no evil?

Well then heaven is gonna SUCK.

So how can people have free will if God takes the ability of humans to choose for themselves away?


Free will is free. Totally free. Free will is not predetermined, programmed, AI creatures that look like humans, talk like humans, but aren’t human. Humans are individual beings.


We are unable to fully serve God in this life due to sin, but in heaven "every curse will no longer be" (Revelation 22:3). We will not be under the curse of sin any longer, so everything we do will be worship in heaven. We will never be motivated by anything other than our love for God. Everything we do will be out of our love for God, untainted by our sin nature.

Heaven is a different place than earth. But really since you don’t believe in God, why do you care? You don’t believe in any of this stuff; why are you so worried about it?

This has zero bearing on your life, why is it so important you endlessly debate things you don’t believe in?

Answer this question: Is there free will in heaven?

Answer this question: Do you believe in God?

regarding your question: Adam and Eve had a choice to make in the Garden of Eden, and that shows beyond all doubt that mankind was created with a free will.


Humans has retained his free will, and we will retain free will in heaven.

In heaven we are completely conformed to the image of Christ (Romans 8:28–30). We will not want to sin. In heaven there will be no temptation to lure us and no devil to deceive us. We will face no test; our moral state will be secure. Jesus has a truly free will yet is without sin, so will we retain a free will yet be without sin. We will be like Him.

(1 John 3:2).

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

So you refuse to answer the question?

Is there free Will in heaven?

Answer this question: Do you believe in God?

regarding your question: Adam and Eve had a choice to make in the Garden of Eden, and that shows beyond all doubt that mankind was created with a free will.


Humans has retained his free will, and we will retain free will in heaven.

In heaven we are completely conformed to the image of Christ (Romans 8:28–30). We will not want to sin. In heaven there will be no temptation to lure us and no devil to deceive us. We will face no test; our moral state will be secure. Jesus has a truly free will yet is without sin, so will we retain a free will yet be without sin. We will be like Him.

(1 John 3:2).

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

I asked you first, and you keep DODGING THE QUESTION. You are doing that and you know why. So does everything else reading the thread.

Answer the question: Is there free will in heaven to continue the discussion in context instead of ignoring what you can’t answer or no one will take anything you say as more than straw man BS. End period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not religious but here's the way of think of "why do bad things happen to good people": In a nutshell, God was juggling a lot of balls and dropped one. So when one kid gets cancer, God didn't notice because s/he was preventing an earthquake that would have killed thousands. Something like that. It's the only thing I've come up with that both feels logical and comforts me.

So why did God create an earth that has earthquakes?

Why do you think God created an earth that has earthquakes?

I dont believe there is a loving God.

Your turn.

Natural disasters are often termed “acts of God” while no “credit” is given to God for years, decades, or even centuries of peaceful weather.

God allows the earth to reflect the consequences sin has had on creation.

If you don’t believe in God, why are you upset other people do?

It’s not anything to do with you. People think differently about everything, and never will all agree on any topic. Do you think people should think like you?

No one is forcing anyone to agree. We are having a discussion. So let us continue...

If God is the creator and hence like a parent, isn't it his job to protect us from earthquakes and cancers?

Like a father or mother is supposed to put food on the table, provide a safe home and stop the kid from getting hit by a car?

The kid is of course grateful for the good parenting, but that is not the drving force. It IS the parent's responsibility to take care of their creation.

And just because the little kid ran into the street once (or ate a forbidden apple), a parent should let them get hit by cars forever as punishment? Wouldnt that be abusive parenting?

Ok. You don’t believe in God so why are you concerned with what I believe?

God did not promise us perfect lives. We are going to have troubles, injuries, illnesses, and problems. No where has God ever said He would protect us from being human.

God offers us love, peace, joy, freedom, forgiveness, life, rest, heaven, to be part of His family.

God created us because He wants a relationship with us. He didn’t create us to live perfect lives on a perfect earth.

Well, he did provide us with perfection, but Adam and Eve chose to believe the snake and take the opportunity to become gods themselves. So that’s why we don’t have perfect lives. But God sent His Son to redeem us. He has given us the opportunity to live with Him in heaven. That is not how abusive people treat their kids, to offer them the greatest gift ever.

That’s my belief. If it doesn’t make sense to you that is expected, as you don’t believe in God.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not religious but here's the way of think of "why do bad things happen to good people": In a nutshell, God was juggling a lot of balls and dropped one. So when one kid gets cancer, God didn't notice because s/he was preventing an earthquake that would have killed thousands. Something like that. It's the only thing I've come up with that both feels logical and comforts me.

So why did God create an earth that has earthquakes?

Can't make an Earth that doesn't quake. It's impossible. It's like making something with a left but not a right.

Wha? Something God can’t do?

What else is on the list of what god can’t do?

(Also, any decent geologist would tell you how to make an earth that doesn’t quake. So, wrong.).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What explains the suffering of children to people who aren’t religious? Is it just random terrible things, and then the child suffers and dies and is snuffed out of existence?

To some, I think. A friend who was atheist was dying of a terrible illness and that is certainly how he viewed it. I lived, I suffer, I die, and am no more. I found it very sad that he viewed life as so pointless, but others found his point of view somehow comforting.

Did he say life was pointless, or did you imagine it?
It's quite sad that you find life so pointless that you wish for something to exist outside of life to give it a point.

What’s the point in the life of a baby with cancer? They suffer and die, what is the point to their lives?

I’d like to know the answer to this too. Can someone explain how they view this secularly?

All life on earth (and earth itself) is random. Both the suffering and the joy.
All we can do is attempt to create meaningful experiences for ourselves while we are here.

But we are still subject to randomness that cannot be expained, controlled or "prayed" away.

So what is the meaningful experience of a baby born, developing cancer, and dying?

+1

Anyone?

Nothing at all. I said we can "try" to create a meaningful experience for ourselves, but yes that child likely cannot. It is the proof of the world's randomness.

Ok so in the secular view, babies die from cancer randomly and their lives mean nothing.