A word of warning about this round of COVID
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Anonymous
You think nothing has changed in 3+ years since trump was last president? |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
I wear a mask on flights except when eating. The air is recirculated and not the cleanest. I should have masked on airplanes before COVID too. I’m not worried at the grocery where I’m continually moving, but I’ll consider wearing a mask anywhere I have to sit still for hours or at a doctor’s office. I was just in a doctor waiting room with two hacking people. COVID almost killed me last year, and I was hospitalized despite being a healthy weight, reg blood pressure, etc. So, I’ll do what I want. |
Anonymous
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I am in Europe on vacation now. Met some older Brits today. They are talking about the “100 day cough.”
The wife says it made her husband feel worse than COVID, and he was hospitalized with that! |
Anonymous
That is British for Whooping Cough. |
Anonymous
I had that a few years ago. Yes, it's awful. Make sure you're up to date on your Tdap booster. |
Anonymous
I’m not bothered at all by people wearing masks, but I don’t understand this logic, and I think it’s things like this that fuel that mockery that some people engage in. Covid doesn’t care if you’re eating or moving quickly. If you’re going to mask, you kind of have to go all in for it to make sense. |
Anonymous
I don’t agree. Don’t you think you’re more likely to catch it sitting in an enclosed plane than briefly walking by someone in a grocery store? |
Anonymous
Maybe? I have no idea. I didn’t get it living in the same house as an infected person, but some people swear they got it the one and only time they removed their masks within three feet of someone. Regardless, if that’s the case, then you better not eat or drink for the duration of your flight. |
Anonymous
Two out of three businesses in Ottawa, Canada, are closed now. I am guessing, but close to that. Due to people not paying rent during COVID-19, they were going broke. What happened to democratic socialism? We will help you recover, the government said, except they didn't in Ontario. Downtown Toronto and Ottawa are Homeless Central. They shut Ontario down and would count accumulated COVID cases but not how many new ones there were per day. Suicides were on the huge rise; nobody could get to see any doctor, and surgeries were postponed. Do you think this is well-managed anything? For example, they shut down the whole province because they had 18 beds in the ICU in Ottawa and some more in Toronto. Don't talk about things you did not live. But LCBOs were open to getting the province all the money they could from alcohol! My DH had bronchitis (or so we think, we don't know), and nobody would even talk to him, let alone prescribe him anything. Full-on hysteria. The first thing you got when you called any health service was... do not come. This was in September of 2022; do not come to see us. They could not even be bothered to send a prescription. Sure, they shut down in December 2021. Then, they left grocery stores and pharmacies open, and in April 2021, they covered pots and pans in Walmart and Costco because it was unfair to other businesses that were closed. Then, they told the police to stop cars if they were driving in June 2021 and have them present a good reason for driving. Several police chiefs said, eh, no. Do you call that managing the pandemic, right? Kids' playgrounds were taped off until September 2022. Why? Almost everyone was vaccinated, and there was no omicron yet. And how do you explain Sweden, then? I would really love to hear your explanation of how all this made sense and mitigated the pandemic. What it did was show how pathetic Canadian health care is today. 18 COVID cases in ICU per month in December 2021, 100 new cases of COVID in Ottawa. Oh, but not per day; oh no, they were counting accumulated monthly cases until they tested negative, hence 100 cases in December. They did not shut down to manage the pandemic; they shut down because they mismanaged their health care for decades. I called and called therapists and psychiatrists for my college-aged DD in January of 2021, who was suffering from anorexia and severe depression. They could put her on a waiting list, but the wait was two years. She was suicidal, and they told me if I thought she would kill herself, take her to the ER. I do not know about Sweden, Norway, or the UK, but I know much about Ontario; I have lived it. So when you have a suicidal child, and you can't get her help, and you then call a facility in Colorado to pay out of pocket for full inpatient care, talk to me about how well they managed the pandemic. They would not even call a Prozac prescription for her. People are going hungry in Canada now because the economy is busted completely. I say this as someone who loves Canada and is devastated about what is happening in Ontario. It's not all about how many lives they saved in 2020; it is about how many lives that could have been saved were lost due to the draconic measure where no doctor would see you for anything. |
Anonymous
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In Canada we have no Constitutional right to healthcare but we cannot pay for private care which makes no sense. It is illegal to pay privately outside of Quebec. Very difficult to sue for negligence when you have no right to actually be treated. Very few medical lawsuits in Canada result in any restitution.
We have a high proportion of people with no primary care, can't find a doctor to take them. It is like telling parents your kids don't get an education because the schools are full. |
Anonymous
International comparisons of covid deaths and excess mortality are difficult to make due to differences in definitions of covid deaths. Sweden reports covid deaths both "due to" and "associated with" covid, with the latter greatly exceeding the former. In contrast, Norway only records covid deaths as "due to". The US is subject to the same reporting biases as Sweden, including deaths where covid was only a contributing factor (e.g. patient was dehydrated from covid, fell, broke their hip and died in hip surgery). US hospitals also received additional payments for each covid patient, so they had strong incentives to classify as many covid patients as possible. Thus, the high reported level of covid deaths in some nations is heavily influenced by statistical reporting. Furthermore, while the Lancet paper cited above believes that most excess mortality during the pandemic is due to covid, it acknowledges that firm conclusions can not be drawn: "we suspect most of the excess mortality during the pandemic is from COVID-19. However, sufficient empirical evidence is absent in most countries. Given the high amount of heterogeneity in epidemiological profiles among countries, it is prudent not to make such strong assumptions before more research on this topic is done." https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2821%2902796-3 Covid vaccines have also been implicated as a driver of excess mortality during the pandemic; there is no way to parse that out in this study. |
Anonymous
COVID is a sentient virus. It will not attack when you are eating or drinking!! It's so smart. The logic of a forever masker is insane. |
Anonymous
When Covid first hit, this was true. You kinda had to go all or nothing or just rely on luck not to get it if you were unmasked. But that has changed now that all of us have been exposed to Covid multiple times, gotten it, had vaccines, etc. Our immune response is different now. We are constantly coming into contact with different bugs, Covid, flu, common cold, but not all of us walk around sick every time because our immune response works at different times. We were much more susceptible to Covid before our body had come in contact with it. Four years later, many of us are less susceptible. So yes if you come into contact at a grocery store when you’re not around the person for you long you can dodge it. Very different than sitting next to someone on a plane for three hours. |
Anonymous
I think it's really, REALLY messed up masks are not required in doctors offices. Insane really. |