Whoever posted about that Indestructible PR podcast-- that lady nailed it. She talked about this interview extensively. This is very much addict-speak. Always blaming things outside yourself rather than yourself. She talked about the difference between being dry vs being sober, and Ben is dry. He may not be drinking but his actions and words are very much that of an addict. The podcast was from February and she predicted that Ben and JLo were headed for divorce based on the things (like this) that each of them were saying in the press. |
Your post sounds like an addict is some terrible character flaw and that for the rest of that person's life his/her words are reflective of an addict whether drinking or not? |
... you mean outside of saying he was so miserable being married to her that he became an alcoholic to cope with his unhappiness? that's not exactly the sweet words you hope to hear out of your spouse's mouth. |
Using the word trapped was very telling. It implies that if he could just be out of this marriage things would be okay. Addicts, until they are in recovery, are always looking to escape dealing with themselves. So drink, gamble, have an affair, get into a passionate relationship and rush into a second marriage….anything to avoid dealing with yourself.
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+1 of course JLo thought she was too special to ever feel this way toward her. At least he left this time rather than drink. He seems to be focused on staying healthy for his kids, which is great. Hopefully he will do the work to figure out why he makes crappy choices in relationships and is not a stable, reliable partner once committed. |
Um, no? The point is that he may not be drinking but he is still is still demonstrating the destructive behavior of an addict. Not drinking is not the same think as being SOBER. He is still struggling with his disease and he's not going to have a successful relationship until he's truly sober. You are the person who characterized it as a "character flaw", not me. |
What do you mean by actions and words of an addict? |
Listen to the Indestructible PR podcast ep. 275. Keep in mind that the podcast is from January. |
God i hate generalizing but you're right. It's a total total addict language. This is the way Brad Pitt talked about his dependency issues when he was with Jennifer too. He had to go back and apologize as well. |
We’ve all heard the expression, “wherever you go, there you are.” It applies here. Until Ben deals with his own sh*t, he’s never going to be happy or satisfied in any relationship, and he’s always going to blame the other person for how miserable he is.
I’m sure JLo is not an easy person to be in a relationship with, but he knew exactly who she was going in. Did she trap him, too? |
DP but you nailed it |
You have good intentions but you don’t get to make up the definition of sober based on what some lady on a podcast said because it resonated with you. so·ber /ˈsōbər/ verb 1. make or become sober after drinking alcohol: "that coffee sobered him up" Similar become sober, become clearheaded, informal:dry out, make sober, clear someone's head, ... more adjective 1. not affected by alcohol; not drunk. Similar not drunk, not intoxicated, clearheaded, as sober as a judge, teetotal, ... moreOpposite drunk |
I hope his dickie is as big as his forehead…. |
Being dry vs being sober is a standard 12-step belief. It's not something someone on a podcast made up. I don't want to write a dissertation on it, but you can Google "dry drunk" or "white knuckling" to learn more. |
Gotcha, it’s 12 step jargon. |