Missionaries in foreign countries are crass

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Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

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He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Christians?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

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He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Sincere aid that is explicitly requested as communities want /need it, is selfless. That is not what missionaries do. If you're trying to influence others or "share" your egocentric beliefs (that no one asked for), it's inherently selfish.

You need to look up the word egocentric

Excuse me? Where am I telling others what they ought to believe? Believe what you want for yourself - I respect that. Missionaries clearly do not respect what others want to believe for themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Christians?

No, sweetie, you

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Christians?

No, sweetie, you

I'm not hateful - I dont break the laws to push my beliefs on someone who doesnt want it.
I dont lie - I'm not a religious person telling children they are going to hell or talking about a magic virgin and sky daddy.
I'm not a bigot - I'm not a religious person trying to strip rights away from people who love someone I dont "agree" with.

Thanks for playing though, better luck next time!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Sincere aid that is explicitly requested as communities want /need it, is selfless. That is not what missionaries do. If you're trying to influence others or "share" your egocentric beliefs (that no one asked for), it's inherently selfish.

You need to look up the word egocentric

Excuse me? Where am I telling others what they ought to believe? Believe what you want for yourself - I respect that. Missionaries clearly do not respect what others want to believe for themselves.

DP. "Telling others what they ought to believe" just means "sharing what you believe and why." Are you against that across the board? Atheists aren't allowed to argue for the truth of atheism? Buddhists aren't allowed to argue for the truth of Buddhism? Is it "egotistic" for a Democrat to share why they're pro-choice or a Republican to share why they believe in the Second Amendment? That seems like an obviously nonsensical position to hold: "You can believe whatever you want, but don't share it, it's disrespectful to talk about your beliefs with a person who doesn't share them."

[Anonymous]

Why do christians hate the indigenous population so much?

Residential schools werent enough for you? Leave them alone!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Christians?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Christians?

No, sweetie, you

I'm not hateful - I dont break the laws to push my beliefs on someone who doesnt want it.
I dont lie - I'm not a religious person telling children they are going to hell or talking about a magic virgin and sky daddy.
I'm not a bigot - I'm not a religious person trying to strip rights away from people who love someone I dont "agree" with.

Thanks for playing though, better luck next time!

You’re the definition of a bigot. You’re trading in crass stereotypes and wild assumptions about other peoples’ motives. Own your bigotry.

You’re also a troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Sincere aid that is explicitly requested as communities want /need it, is selfless. That is not what missionaries do. If you're trying to influence others or "share" your egocentric beliefs (that no one asked for), it's inherently selfish.

You need to look up the word egocentric

Excuse me? Where am I telling others what they ought to believe? Believe what you want for yourself - I respect that. Missionaries clearly do not respect what others want to believe for themselves.

DP. "Telling others what they ought to believe" just means "sharing what you believe and why." Are you against that across the board? Atheists aren't allowed to argue for the truth of atheism? Buddhists aren't allowed to argue for the truth of Buddhism? Is it "egotistic" for a Democrat to share why they're pro-choice or a Republican to share why they believe in the Second Amendment? That seems like an obviously nonsensical position to hold: "You can believe whatever you want, but don't share it, it's disrespectful to talk about your beliefs with a person who doesn't share them."

Good points. They’re sharing their POVs, even if you don’t agree with them, and I don’t. The atheist bigots here have tried, but they haven’t been able to show missionaries are forcing beliefs on anybody

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Sincere aid that is explicitly requested as communities want /need it, is selfless. That is not what missionaries do. If you're trying to influence others or "share" your egocentric beliefs (that no one asked for), it's inherently selfish.

You need to look up the word egocentric

Excuse me? Where am I telling others what they ought to believe? Believe what you want for yourself - I respect that. Missionaries clearly do not respect what others want to believe for themselves.

DP. "Telling others what they ought to believe" just means "sharing what you believe and why." Are you against that across the board? Atheists aren't allowed to argue for the truth of atheism? Buddhists aren't allowed to argue for the truth of Buddhism? Is it "egotistic" for a Democrat to share why they're pro-choice or a Republican to share why they believe in the Second Amendment? That seems like an obviously nonsensical position to hold: "You can believe whatever you want, but don't share it, it's disrespectful to talk about your beliefs with a person who doesn't share them."

We're comingling on a public website. There's a VAST difference between people having a discussion in a shared space, and YOU traveling to someone's home community in another country to "share" your unsolicited beliefs. I cannot believe you're trying to draw some kind of equivalency. You are truly unbelievably narcissistic in your mindset.

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Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

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He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Christians?

No, sweetie, you

I'm not hateful - I dont break the laws to push my beliefs on someone who doesnt want it.
I dont lie - I'm not a religious person telling children they are going to hell or talking about a magic virgin and sky daddy.
I'm not a bigot - I'm not a religious person trying to strip rights away from people who love someone I dont "agree" with.

Thanks for playing though, better luck next time!

You’re the definition of a bigot. You’re trading in crass stereotypes and wild assumptions about other peoples’ motives. Own your bigotry.

You’re also a troll.

Seems to be the word of the thread LOL
Religious folks own bigotry though. I really hope you don't gamble, you dont know how to stop when youre losing sweetie.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Christians?

No, sweetie, you

I'm not hateful - I dont break the laws to push my beliefs on someone who doesnt want it.
I dont lie - I'm not a religious person telling children they are going to hell or talking about a magic virgin and sky daddy.
I'm not a bigot - I'm not a religious person trying to strip rights away from people who love someone I dont "agree" with.

Thanks for playing though, better luck next time!

You’re the definition of a bigot. You’re trading in crass stereotypes and wild assumptions about other peoples’ motives. Own your bigotry.

You’re also a troll.

Seems to be the word of the thread LOL
Religious folks own bigotry though. I really hope you don't gamble, you dont know how to stop when youre losing sweetie.

When insults are all you have then yes, you’re an atheist troll

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Christians?

No, sweetie, you

I'm not hateful - I dont break the laws to push my beliefs on someone who doesnt want it.
I dont lie - I'm not a religious person telling children they are going to hell or talking about a magic virgin and sky daddy.
I'm not a bigot - I'm not a religious person trying to strip rights away from people who love someone I dont "agree" with.

Thanks for playing though, better luck next time!

You’re the definition of a bigot. You’re trading in crass stereotypes and wild assumptions about other peoples’ motives. Own your bigotry.

You’re also a troll.

Seems to be the word of the thread LOL
Religious folks own bigotry though. I really hope you don't gamble, you dont know how to stop when youre losing sweetie.

When insults are all you have then yes, you’re an atheist troll

You are the one who started with the insults, I was simply answering your questions.

[Anonymous]

"Dr Patrick Chau...called religion “the opium of the mass[es]”.

“If you have [anything] positive to say about religion,” he told me, “l wish not to see or hear” it. He said his son’s zeal was a longstanding point of contention and that they’d agreed not to talk about John’s missionary work. He blamed evangelicals’ “extreme Christianity” for pushing his child to a “not unexpected end”.

Like Patrick Chau, Justin Graves, a pastor and a friend of John’s from linguistics school, has blamed evangelical culture for enabling Chau’s death... "His death brings to light a multitude of issues with Evangelical views” and “hell-based ethics”.

A 26 year olds life ended due to religious fanaticism. Terrible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Dr Patrick Chau...called religion “the opium of the mass[es]”.

“If you have [anything] positive to say about religion,” he told me, “l wish not to see or hear” it. He said his son’s zeal was a longstanding point of contention and that they’d agreed not to talk about John’s missionary work. He blamed evangelicals’ “extreme Christianity” for pushing his child to a “not unexpected end”.

Like Patrick Chau, Justin Graves, a pastor and a friend of John’s from linguistics school, has blamed evangelical culture for enabling Chau’s death... "His death brings to light a multitude of issues with Evangelical views” and “hell-based ethics”.

A 26 year olds life ended due to religious fanaticism. Terrible.

Yikes more:

In 2017 he was accepted to a boot camp run by All Nations, a Kansas City organization that works to see Jesus “worshipped by every tongue, tribe and nation”. All Nations urges Christians to inculcate a “wartime mentality” and “make strategic decisions in the battle we’re waging against a real enemy”.
“He had already heard all the arguments of why this was a fool’s errand and would jeopardize any mission associated with it, let alone the [lives] of the individuals involved.”

Was this guy supposed to be an example of a good missionary?? He sounds like a psychopath