Missionaries in foreign countries are crass

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Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

The tribe the missionary was trying to contact kills anyone who visits their island, even accidentally. They have killed fishermen who accidentally washed up on their island. When another ship became disabled and had to go ashore on the island, it was a very dangerous situation and the Indian government had to rescue them quickly.

While I don’t think anyone should force anyone to do anything, it’s ridiculous that in 2024 an island exists with inhabitants who immediately kill anyone who even accidentally lands there. The people on the island attack anyone and any helicopter, ship, etc that gets near the island. They can retain their culture and traditions and not kill anyone who comes in contact with them.

They have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty.

They don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

I agree. If they want to kill anyone that is not from their tribe and think violence and death of innocent people is right, that’s their choice. Nobody has a right to make them not kill people. that’s how they have lived since the start, and it makes sense to them. Their religion probably tells them that’s how to deal with outsiders.

So let's say the religion says to sacrifice children and torture virgin girls before marriage, that is fine with you. Because it's their tradition.

Human rights violations are not ok.

They can defend their borders though.

Murder is a human rights violation.

They aren’t murdering their people.

So if I murder somebody from Canada, that's OK?

You're so twisted that you really have no business criticizing others, and that includes missionaries.

Or you're a troll. Tell us, how many times have you spewed bile on this thread alone?

We are a different country with different rules. They don’t want outsiders. That includes people trying to push their religion on them.

Again, they have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty. And they don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

(Similarly we don’t need that here in our country)

“Bile”? Well I guess you could describe the truth about missionaries as disgusting so that could apply.

Got it. You think murder is better than Christianity.

You are one sick, bigoted puppy.

I didn’t say that. Guess you can’t address what I actually say do you have to make something up.

Countries kill others to protect themselves. This is no different.

Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Troll or psychopath. In a post denying you said murder is OK, you repeat that you think murder is OK.

I’m sorry you struggle with reading comprehension but I never said murder is ok.

1/7 14:54 "I agree. If they want to kill anyone that is not from their tribe and think violence and death of innocent people is right, that’s their choice. Nobody has a right to make them not kill people. that’s how they have lived since the start, and it makes sense to them. Their religion probably tells them that’s how to deal with outsiders."

1/7 17:13 "They aren’t murdering their people."

1/8 8:36 "We are a different country with different rules."

1/8 10:32 "Countries kill others to protect themselves. This is no different." (as if a helicopter or missionary is equivalent to Russia invading Ukraine)

The moderator deleted your comments defending pedophilia and rape of children because they're other cultures or something.

Psychopath or troll, which are you?

There are multiple posters. I didn’t say anything about pedophilia (or even see those posts) or 14:54.

And I never said murder is ok. Defending their border isn’t murder. No more so than any other military action defending one’s homeland that results in death.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

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He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

Clear sign of a troll: you lose one thread of argument so you go back and bump up a previous argument.

I'm actually a NP catching up on the thread lol. Sorry to disappoint!

Anyways, this guy broke multiple laws, as these islands are illegal to visit. He had to pay fishermen to drop him at the island illegally.

"In 2017, Chau participated in 'boot camp' missionary training by the Kansas City-based evangelical organization All Nations.[9] According to a report by The New York Times, the training included navigating a mock native village populated by missionary staff members who pretended to be hostile natives, wielding fake spears
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visiting North Sentinel Island without government permission remained illegal
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Chau embarked on a journey to North Sentinel Island, which he thought could be "Satan's last stronghold on Earth"
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Chau paid two fishermen ₹25,000 (US$335.47) to take him near the island.[20] The fishermen were later arrested.[21]

Chau expressed a clear desire to convert the tribe and was aware of the legal and mortal risks he was taking by his efforts, writing in his diary, "Lord, is this island Satan's last stronghold, where none have heard or even had the chance to hear your name?", "The eternal lives of this tribe is at hand", and "I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people.
...
The fishermen warned Chau not to go farther, but he canoed toward shore with a waterproof Bible
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Eventually, according to Chau’s last letter, when he tried to hand over fish and gifts, a boy shot a metal-headed arrow that pierced the Bible he was holding in front of his chest, after which he retreated again.
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On his final visit, on November 17, Chau instructed the fishermen to abandon him.[28] The fishermen later saw the islanders dragging Chau's body, and the next day they saw his body being buried on the shore.
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Chau was criticized by Survival International among others for visiting the island despite the possibility of introducing pathogens to the native Sentinelese, to whom they could have been deadly since it was likely that the natives had not been previously exposed to diseases from outside the island.[5][31][32][33] All Nations, the evangelical organization that trained Chau, was criticized on social media for describing Chau as a martyr while expressing condolences for Chau's death. Chau's father also blamed his son's death on the missionary community for inculcating an extreme Christian vision in Chau."

So he broke multiple laws, his own DAD thinks the missionary community brainwashed him and he risked the lives of the people he was trying to convert by giving them diseases. Nice job bud!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

Clear sign of a troll: you lose one thread of argument so you go back and bump up a previous argument.

I'm actually a NP catching up on the thread lol. Sorry to disappoint!

Anyways, this guy broke multiple laws, as these islands are illegal to visit. He had to pay fishermen to drop him at the island illegally.

"In 2017, Chau participated in 'boot camp' missionary training by the Kansas City-based evangelical organization All Nations.[9] According to a report by The New York Times, the training included navigating a mock native village populated by missionary staff members who pretended to be hostile natives, wielding fake spears
...
visiting North Sentinel Island without government permission remained illegal
...
Chau embarked on a journey to North Sentinel Island, which he thought could be "Satan's last stronghold on Earth"
...
Chau paid two fishermen ₹25,000 (US$335.47) to take him near the island.[20] The fishermen were later arrested.[21]

Chau expressed a clear desire to convert the tribe and was aware of the legal and mortal risks he was taking by his efforts, writing in his diary, "Lord, is this island Satan's last stronghold, where none have heard or even had the chance to hear your name?", "The eternal lives of this tribe is at hand", and "I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people.
...
The fishermen warned Chau not to go farther, but he canoed toward shore with a waterproof Bible
...
Eventually, according to Chau’s last letter, when he tried to hand over fish and gifts, a boy shot a metal-headed arrow that pierced the Bible he was holding in front of his chest, after which he retreated again.
...
On his final visit, on November 17, Chau instructed the fishermen to abandon him.[28] The fishermen later saw the islanders dragging Chau's body, and the next day they saw his body being buried on the shore.
...
Chau was criticized by Survival International among others for visiting the island despite the possibility of introducing pathogens to the native Sentinelese, to whom they could have been deadly since it was likely that the natives had not been previously exposed to diseases from outside the island.[5][31][32][33] All Nations, the evangelical organization that trained Chau, was criticized on social media for describing Chau as a martyr while expressing condolences for Chau's death. Chau's father also blamed his son's death on the missionary community for inculcating an extreme Christian vision in Chau."

So he broke multiple laws, his own DAD thinks the missionary community brainwashed him and he risked the lives of the people he was trying to convert by giving them diseases. Nice job bud!

Thanks for the spam. But none of this supports the claim that he was acting out of hubris because he wanted to be "the one" to convert them.

And I still don't get why you think it's OK to kill someone or that group of helicopter people who weren't missionaries at all. Sure, lock him in a cabin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

Clear sign of a troll: you lose one thread of argument so you go back and bump up a previous argument.

I'm actually a NP catching up on the thread lol. Sorry to disappoint!

Anyways, this guy broke multiple laws, as these islands are illegal to visit. He had to pay fishermen to drop him at the island illegally.

"In 2017, Chau participated in 'boot camp' missionary training by the Kansas City-based evangelical organization All Nations.[9] According to a report by The New York Times, the training included navigating a mock native village populated by missionary staff members who pretended to be hostile natives, wielding fake spears
...
visiting North Sentinel Island without government permission remained illegal
...
Chau embarked on a journey to North Sentinel Island, which he thought could be "Satan's last stronghold on Earth"
...
Chau paid two fishermen ₹25,000 (US$335.47) to take him near the island.[20] The fishermen were later arrested.[21]

Chau expressed a clear desire to convert the tribe and was aware of the legal and mortal risks he was taking by his efforts, writing in his diary, "Lord, is this island Satan's last stronghold, where none have heard or even had the chance to hear your name?", "The eternal lives of this tribe is at hand", and "I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people.
...
The fishermen warned Chau not to go farther, but he canoed toward shore with a waterproof Bible
...
Eventually, according to Chau’s last letter, when he tried to hand over fish and gifts, a boy shot a metal-headed arrow that pierced the Bible he was holding in front of his chest, after which he retreated again.
...
On his final visit, on November 17, Chau instructed the fishermen to abandon him.[28] The fishermen later saw the islanders dragging Chau's body, and the next day they saw his body being buried on the shore.
...
Chau was criticized by Survival International among others for visiting the island despite the possibility of introducing pathogens to the native Sentinelese, to whom they could have been deadly since it was likely that the natives had not been previously exposed to diseases from outside the island.[5][31][32][33] All Nations, the evangelical organization that trained Chau, was criticized on social media for describing Chau as a martyr while expressing condolences for Chau's death. Chau's father also blamed his son's death on the missionary community for inculcating an extreme Christian vision in Chau."

So he broke multiple laws, his own DAD thinks the missionary community brainwashed him and he risked the lives of the people he was trying to convert by giving them diseases. Nice job bud!

Thanks for the spam. But none of this supports the claim that he was acting out of hubris because he wanted to be "the one" to convert them.

And I still don't get why you think it's OK to kill someone or that group of helicopter people who weren't missionaries at all. Sure, lock him in a cabin.

How is breaking multiple laws to get to "satans last stronghold", risking the lives of the people he was trying to convert and the people involved in bringing him to the island NOT hubris? Seriously, pull your head out. Do all missions encourage people to break local laws to bring their salvation to the indigenous peoples?

[Anonymous]

Whats the point of converting someone if theyre just gonna die because of whatever disease you brought to their secluded island?

Who are these people, smallpox missionaries?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

Clear sign of a troll: you lose one thread of argument so you go back and bump up a previous argument.

I'm actually a NP catching up on the thread lol. Sorry to disappoint!

Anyways, this guy broke multiple laws, as these islands are illegal to visit. He had to pay fishermen to drop him at the island illegally.

"In 2017, Chau participated in 'boot camp' missionary training by the Kansas City-based evangelical organization All Nations.[9] According to a report by The New York Times, the training included navigating a mock native village populated by missionary staff members who pretended to be hostile natives, wielding fake spears
...
visiting North Sentinel Island without government permission remained illegal
...
Chau embarked on a journey to North Sentinel Island, which he thought could be "Satan's last stronghold on Earth"
...
Chau paid two fishermen ₹25,000 (US$335.47) to take him near the island.[20] The fishermen were later arrested.[21]

Chau expressed a clear desire to convert the tribe and was aware of the legal and mortal risks he was taking by his efforts, writing in his diary, "Lord, is this island Satan's last stronghold, where none have heard or even had the chance to hear your name?", "The eternal lives of this tribe is at hand", and "I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people.
...
The fishermen warned Chau not to go farther, but he canoed toward shore with a waterproof Bible
...
Eventually, according to Chau’s last letter, when he tried to hand over fish and gifts, a boy shot a metal-headed arrow that pierced the Bible he was holding in front of his chest, after which he retreated again.
...
On his final visit, on November 17, Chau instructed the fishermen to abandon him.[28] The fishermen later saw the islanders dragging Chau's body, and the next day they saw his body being buried on the shore.
...
Chau was criticized by Survival International among others for visiting the island despite the possibility of introducing pathogens to the native Sentinelese, to whom they could have been deadly since it was likely that the natives had not been previously exposed to diseases from outside the island.[5][31][32][33] All Nations, the evangelical organization that trained Chau, was criticized on social media for describing Chau as a martyr while expressing condolences for Chau's death. Chau's father also blamed his son's death on the missionary community for inculcating an extreme Christian vision in Chau."

So he broke multiple laws, his own DAD thinks the missionary community brainwashed him and he risked the lives of the people he was trying to convert by giving them diseases. Nice job bud!

Thanks for the spam. But none of this supports the claim that he was acting out of hubris because he wanted to be "the one" to convert them.

And I still don't get why you think it's OK to kill someone or that group of helicopter people who weren't missionaries at all. Sure, lock him in a cabin.

How is breaking multiple laws to get to "satans last stronghold", risking the lives of the people he was trying to convert and the people involved in bringing him to the island NOT hubris? Seriously, pull your head out. Do all missions encourage people to break local laws to bring their salvation to the indigenous peoples?

Maybe they enjoy it more if there’s a struggle.

There is a hidden violence there. Forcing yourself on others without their consent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

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He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

Clear sign of a troll: you lose one thread of argument so you go back and bump up a previous argument.

I'm actually a NP catching up on the thread lol. Sorry to disappoint!

Anyways, this guy broke multiple laws, as these islands are illegal to visit. He had to pay fishermen to drop him at the island illegally.

"In 2017, Chau participated in 'boot camp' missionary training by the Kansas City-based evangelical organization All Nations.[9] According to a report by The New York Times, the training included navigating a mock native village populated by missionary staff members who pretended to be hostile natives, wielding fake spears
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visiting North Sentinel Island without government permission remained illegal
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Chau embarked on a journey to North Sentinel Island, which he thought could be "Satan's last stronghold on Earth"
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Chau paid two fishermen ₹25,000 (US$335.47) to take him near the island.[20] The fishermen were later arrested.[21]

Chau expressed a clear desire to convert the tribe and was aware of the legal and mortal risks he was taking by his efforts, writing in his diary, "Lord, is this island Satan's last stronghold, where none have heard or even had the chance to hear your name?", "The eternal lives of this tribe is at hand", and "I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people.
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The fishermen warned Chau not to go farther, but he canoed toward shore with a waterproof Bible
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Eventually, according to Chau’s last letter, when he tried to hand over fish and gifts, a boy shot a metal-headed arrow that pierced the Bible he was holding in front of his chest, after which he retreated again.
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On his final visit, on November 17, Chau instructed the fishermen to abandon him.[28] The fishermen later saw the islanders dragging Chau's body, and the next day they saw his body being buried on the shore.
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Chau was criticized by Survival International among others for visiting the island despite the possibility of introducing pathogens to the native Sentinelese, to whom they could have been deadly since it was likely that the natives had not been previously exposed to diseases from outside the island.[5][31][32][33] All Nations, the evangelical organization that trained Chau, was criticized on social media for describing Chau as a martyr while expressing condolences for Chau's death. Chau's father also blamed his son's death on the missionary community for inculcating an extreme Christian vision in Chau."

So he broke multiple laws, his own DAD thinks the missionary community brainwashed him and he risked the lives of the people he was trying to convert by giving them diseases. Nice job bud!

Thanks for the spam. But none of this supports the claim that he was acting out of hubris because he wanted to be "the one" to convert them.

And I still don't get why you think it's OK to kill someone or that group of helicopter people who weren't missionaries at all. Sure, lock him in a cabin.

How is breaking multiple laws to get to "satans last stronghold", risking the lives of the people he was trying to convert and the people involved in bringing him to the island NOT hubris? Seriously, pull your head out. Do all missions encourage people to break local laws to bring their salvation to the indigenous peoples?

Maybe they enjoy it more if there’s a struggle.

There is a hidden violence there. Forcing yourself on others without their consent.

Totally. They literally shot his dumb bible. They did not want him there and it was clear AF. He continued on, against the law, against local advice, against his parents wishes, against what the actual locals wanted.

Thats hubris AF.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Also the atheist trolls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whats the point of converting someone if theyre just gonna die because of whatever disease you brought to their secluded island?

Who are these people, smallpox missionaries?!

Because then they get eternal life...duh

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Sincere aid that is explicitly requested as communities want /need it, is selfless. That is not what missionaries do. If you're trying to influence others or "share" your egocentric beliefs (that no one asked for), it's inherently selfish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

+1
He wasnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he wanted to be THE ONE to bring jesus to them! Everyone before has failed, but he wanted to be the one that succeeded.

What sin is that? Hubris?

This is why it’s so unethical. They are doing it for their own selfish reasons - for their own religious beliefs. If they simply wanted to help others there wouldn’t be a religious component to it at all.

This. ALL missionaries are proselytizing for selfish reasons. It's entirely about the missionary/proselytizer.

You know ALL missionaries? Wow, that’s amazing.

We need some sort of word to identify DCUM’s most hateful, lying bigots. Then we could just answer with the passcode and nobody would bother replying to them.

Sincere aid that is explicitly requested as communities want /need it, is selfless. That is not what missionaries do. If you're trying to influence others or "share" your egocentric beliefs (that no one asked for), it's inherently selfish.

You need to look up the word egocentric

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Christians love to play the victim, even when they are victimizing others.

Exactly.

DP. To be fair, you’re misrepresenting Christians on this thread.

PP was pretty accurate:

"Christians love to play the victim"
Someone, presumably a Christian, posted multiple examples of Christians being "persecuted" in other countries.

even when they are victimizing others.
Multiple examples of Christians missionaries victimizing vulnerable people have been shared on this thread.

Both can be true

Maybe Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Well, this man was doing what he thought was right. He was not a performative Christian; he didn’t just copy a scripture onto his facebook status. He wanted to help people and knew he was very likely to die.

“I think it's worthwhile to declare Jesus to these people. Please do not be angry at them or at God if I get killed ... Don't retrieve my body." -He wrote this in his diary.

The Sentinelese have repeatedly attacked approaching vessels, whether the boats were intentionally visiting the island or simply ran aground on the surrounding coral reef. The islanders have been observed shooting arrows at boats, as well as at low-flying helicopters. Such attacks have resulted in injury and death. In 2006, islanders killed two fishermen whose boat had drifted ashore.

The Sentinelese are known to have scavenged both shipwrecks for iron.

The first peaceful contact with the Sentinelese was made by Triloknath Pandit, a director of the Anthropological Survey of India, and his colleagues on 4 January 1991. Although Pandit and his colleagues were able to make repeated friendly contact, dropping coconuts and other gifts to the Sentinelese, no progress was made in understanding the Sentinelese language, and the Sentinelese repeatedly warned them off if they stayed too long. Indian visits to the island ceased in 1997.

The Sentinelese survived the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and its after-effects, including the tsunami and the uplifting of the island. Three days after the earthquake, an Indian government helicopter observed several islanders, who shot arrows and threw spears and stones at the helicopter.

I don’t know why the people on this island are voluntarily isolated, but it can’t be a very pleasant life.

Moral of the story: don’t push your religion on anyone.

The tribe the missionary was trying to contact kills anyone who visits their island, even accidentally. They have killed fishermen who accidentally washed up on their island. When another ship became disabled and had to go ashore on the island, it was a very dangerous situation and the Indian government had to rescue them quickly.

While I don’t think anyone should force anyone to do anything, it’s ridiculous that in 2024 an island exists with inhabitants who immediately kill anyone who even accidentally lands there. The people on the island attack anyone and any helicopter, ship, etc that gets near the island. They can retain their culture and traditions and not kill anyone who comes in contact with them.

They have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty.

They don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

I agree. If they want to kill anyone that is not from their tribe and think violence and death of innocent people is right, that’s their choice. Nobody has a right to make them not kill people. that’s how they have lived since the start, and it makes sense to them. Their religion probably tells them that’s how to deal with outsiders.

So let's say the religion says to sacrifice children and torture virgin girls before marriage, that is fine with you. Because it's their tradition.

Human rights violations are not ok.

They can defend their borders though.

Murder is a human rights violation.

They aren’t murdering their people.

So if I murder somebody from Canada, that's OK?

You're so twisted that you really have no business criticizing others, and that includes missionaries.

Or you're a troll. Tell us, how many times have you spewed bile on this thread alone?

We are a different country with different rules. They don’t want outsiders. That includes people trying to push their religion on them.

Again, they have the right to autonomously rule their own sovereignty. And they don’t need white Christians to force their morals on others.

(Similarly we don’t need that here in our country)

“Bile”? Well I guess you could describe the truth about missionaries as disgusting so that could apply.

Got it. You think murder is better than Christianity.

You are one sick, bigoted puppy.

I didn’t say that. Guess you can’t address what I actually say do you have to make something up.

Countries kill others to protect themselves. This is no different.

Christians wouldn't get killed as often if they weren't trying to proselytize in areas where they aren't wanted.

Troll or psychopath. In a post denying you said murder is OK, you repeat that you think murder is OK.

I’m sorry you struggle with reading comprehension but I never said murder is ok.

1/7 14:54 "I agree. If they want to kill anyone that is not from their tribe and think violence and death of innocent people is right, that’s their choice. Nobody has a right to make them not kill people. that’s how they have lived since the start, and it makes sense to them. Their religion probably tells them that’s how to deal with outsiders."

1/7 17:13 "They aren’t murdering their people."

1/8 8:36 "We are a different country with different rules."

1/8 10:32 "Countries kill others to protect themselves. This is no different." (as if a helicopter or missionary is equivalent to Russia invading Ukraine)

The moderator deleted your comments defending pedophilia and rape of children because they're other cultures or something.

Psychopath or troll, which are you?

There are multiple posters. I didn’t say anything about pedophilia (or even see those posts) or 14:54.

And I never said murder is ok. Defending their border isn’t murder. No more so than any other military action defending one’s homeland that results in death.

So you didn’t post 14:54 but you posted the rest. In other words, you think a MAGA is within their rights to kill a Canadian who is promoting universal healthcare on Dupont Circle. Or they can kill a Muslim who is talking about Mohammed. All ok, according to you.