Anonymous wrote:We're moving to Belize in October. Can't wait. The kids can't wait to visit and we will be back a few times a year for a few weeks each time.
Oooh! Sounds amazing! Tell us more!
We're moving to an island off the coast so not on the mainland. The mainland is cheaper but we fell in love with the island (Ambergris Caye). We're buying a small house on the lagoon side on a canal with a small swimming pool and a nice fenced in lot for under $300K. There are no private cars so you have a golf cart or bike or walk (or boat). There's about 20,000 people on the island altogether at peak season. It's around 82 degrees and usually sunny every day. English is the official language. There's no one day delivery, no chain stores or restaurants, no mass shootings, no commuting. It's a simpler, slower way of life. I've been working online/phone throughout the pandemic so I'll continue to do that. We're also starting a small, simple business that we can at least afford to run/break even on and will probably significantly contribute to our expenses.
Including my portion of my kids' college tuition, health insurance in the US just in case of a catastrophic illness (routine care down there is super cheap), and a reasonable day-to-day existence including travel to/from the US, tickets for the kids, and meals out usually at local, sometimes at tourist restaurants, we can live on under $4,000/month. Easily. Most Belizeans on the island live on under $1,000/month so that would be a very comfortable existence.
We're tired of the violence in the US, the political situation, the orange man possibly coming back, the traffic, the commute, the commercialism, the expense. Belize is absolutely not perfect, but people are happy, it's beautiful, we can work to live and have more time for outdoor activities, we will have a lighter footprint on the earth, and it's really not that much harder to get to than if my kids went to college anywhere from the Midwest to California. Around 8 hours from BWI to the island if you work it right.
I give it 5 years, tops, before you’re back.
Yeah, OK, not too concerned about your opinion. We are well aware of the downsides of our move, but feel the upsides way outweigh them.
In terms of hurricanes, they're not too frequent on Ambergris Caye -- something about the reef being protective. They do evacuate to the mainland occasionally and there is some damage. We're buying a low profile house away from the Caribbean side of the island so we have more protection than we would. My house here had quite a bit of hurricane damage previously so it's not like we are out of danger of that here. Again, we all choose what we are willing to live with and I choose not to go to shopping malls, drive in traffic, deal with the prospect of mass shootings, and the consumerism of American society. To each his own.
I think it's an awesome idea, and ignore the naysayers. People here in DC can be crabs in a bucket, mostly driven by envy and fear that the safe treadmill they've chosen may not be the VERY BEST option in life. Great on you for getting out of here and seeing what else is available. I hope to have the guts to explore that when my kids are a little older.
Disagree. PP is moving for emotional reasons and sounds hysterical. Moving because of school shootings and consumerism? The only reason there isn’t consumerism in Belize is because everyone is too poor and their government and legal system is so incompetent that your average person can’t build any wealth or really accomplish much at all. It’s easy to bash American consumerism but it makes our life very comfortable and it’s what pretty much what every single person on the planet wants. I doubt PP will be giving up his American consumer goods (iphone, TV shows, antibiotics, Tylenol, clothing etc) when he or she moves to his or her second world country.
PP will be back because of bad healthcare, corruption, lack of building codes, crime that actually affects wealthy people, a lack of infrastructure and consumer goods, etc. I could go on.
Speaking of hysterical.... It is obvious you've never lived in a less materially rich place, so your perspective is one of fear and ignorance. The fact that you cannot imagine a world without the things that make your life "very comfortable" says a lot about you, and pretty much makes my point that you have gone all in on the "getting and spending" and have lost perspective on other ways to enjoy life.
And yes, you can have things like Tylenol and antibiotics without also the culture in the DC area of constantly trying to make and spend money to feel important. You act like if you want some basic things you must also stay chained to the tread mill that you've chosen. Maybe you can't imagine another way, but plenty of people do. Lots and lots of people retire to places that are less materially well-off to enjoy a culture not as focused on getting and spending.
I'm the poster moving to Belize and I just want to say thanks! This is exactly our perspective. We know there are some things that might get harder and we are fortunate enough (unlike many Belizeans), to be able to plan for that. We can fly back to the US, use our US health insurance, and get care. We can self-pay in Mexico which we can quickly access via water taxi. As for routine care, I got a UTI when we were there last and it his hard. I walked into a pharmacy and for around $5, in 3 minutes, I was taking my first dose of antibiotics.
I have all the clothes I need for now. I'm a simple girl. I already said I'd be coming back to the US a couple/few times a year to see my kids/family and I fully anticipate I will stock up when I'm here. Again, I'm fortunate that I can do that. The island is a simple place and my shorts and plain t-shirts and summer dresses will suit me just fine.
I'll admit we're cheating. A lot of North American expats who move to Belize move off the grid -- solar, cistern water, septic, and even growing their own food. We will be living in the village with a shop on the corner, public electric and water, and, while we are going to try to use Belizean air conditioning (open windows and doors on all 4 sides to create a breeze), I'm sure that we will be turning on our AC units from time-to-time.
We will also do what many expats do and continue our streaming services. We don't even have regular TV here so I don't see any decrease in availability of entertainment. I'm not sure why you don't realize that my AT&T iPhone works just the same there as it does here. Not even an extra fee. The government upgraded internet services and it's quite good. A little more expensive than here, but since just about everything else is significantly cheaper, it's a wash.
We know what we're giving up. What we're turning away from. We're ready and excited and believe in what we're doing. I don't expect other people to embrace this type of move, but it seems silly to disparage what others are doing without actually knowing the reality of what they're doing. I actually wouldn't have the nerves to move to neighboring countries such as Mexico, Guatemala, or Honduras specifically because of the concerns about government, law, and corruption, plus crime and I don't speak Spanish. So that would be a huge step too far for me. But I understand why others do it and applaud them for being able to take that step. I've also lived abroad before, way before internet or easy phone calls, etc. so I know what it feels like, but this practically feels like cheating that I can Facetime my kids in the US for free!
That kind of lifestyle is definitely not for me but I checked out your island and I approve your move. Also, I like you, PP, so my DH and I decided to visit you next year. We have no food allergies.
Different poster here. Whatever you're serving pp for dinner will be just fine for me as well.
Anonymous wrote:We're moving to Belize in October. Can't wait. The kids can't wait to visit and we will be back a few times a year for a few weeks each time.
Oooh! Sounds amazing! Tell us more!
We're moving to an island off the coast so not on the mainland. The mainland is cheaper but we fell in love with the island (Ambergris Caye). We're buying a small house on the lagoon side on a canal with a small swimming pool and a nice fenced in lot for under $300K. There are no private cars so you have a golf cart or bike or walk (or boat). There's about 20,000 people on the island altogether at peak season. It's around 82 degrees and usually sunny every day. English is the official language. There's no one day delivery, no chain stores or restaurants, no mass shootings, no commuting. It's a simpler, slower way of life. I've been working online/phone throughout the pandemic so I'll continue to do that. We're also starting a small, simple business that we can at least afford to run/break even on and will probably significantly contribute to our expenses.
Including my portion of my kids' college tuition, health insurance in the US just in case of a catastrophic illness (routine care down there is super cheap), and a reasonable day-to-day existence including travel to/from the US, tickets for the kids, and meals out usually at local, sometimes at tourist restaurants, we can live on under $4,000/month. Easily. Most Belizeans on the island live on under $1,000/month so that would be a very comfortable existence.
We're tired of the violence in the US, the political situation, the orange man possibly coming back, the traffic, the commute, the commercialism, the expense. Belize is absolutely not perfect, but people are happy, it's beautiful, we can work to live and have more time for outdoor activities, we will have a lighter footprint on the earth, and it's really not that much harder to get to than if my kids went to college anywhere from the Midwest to California. Around 8 hours from BWI to the island if you work it right.
I give it 5 years, tops, before you’re back.
Yeah, OK, not too concerned about your opinion. We are well aware of the downsides of our move, but feel the upsides way outweigh them.
In terms of hurricanes, they're not too frequent on Ambergris Caye -- something about the reef being protective. They do evacuate to the mainland occasionally and there is some damage. We're buying a low profile house away from the Caribbean side of the island so we have more protection than we would. My house here had quite a bit of hurricane damage previously so it's not like we are out of danger of that here. Again, we all choose what we are willing to live with and I choose not to go to shopping malls, drive in traffic, deal with the prospect of mass shootings, and the consumerism of American society. To each his own.
I think it's an awesome idea, and ignore the naysayers. People here in DC can be crabs in a bucket, mostly driven by envy and fear that the safe treadmill they've chosen may not be the VERY BEST option in life. Great on you for getting out of here and seeing what else is available. I hope to have the guts to explore that when my kids are a little older.
Disagree. PP is moving for emotional reasons and sounds hysterical. Moving because of school shootings and consumerism? The only reason there isn’t consumerism in Belize is because everyone is too poor and their government and legal system is so incompetent that your average person can’t build any wealth or really accomplish much at all. It’s easy to bash American consumerism but it makes our life very comfortable and it’s what pretty much what every single person on the planet wants. I doubt PP will be giving up his American consumer goods (iphone, TV shows, antibiotics, Tylenol, clothing etc) when he or she moves to his or her second world country.
PP will be back because of bad healthcare, corruption, lack of building codes, crime that actually affects wealthy people, a lack of infrastructure and consumer goods, etc. I could go on.
Speaking of hysterical.... It is obvious you've never lived in a less materially rich place, so your perspective is one of fear and ignorance. The fact that you cannot imagine a world without the things that make your life "very comfortable" says a lot about you, and pretty much makes my point that you have gone all in on the "getting and spending" and have lost perspective on other ways to enjoy life.
And yes, you can have things like Tylenol and antibiotics without also the culture in the DC area of constantly trying to make and spend money to feel important. You act like if you want some basic things you must also stay chained to the tread mill that you've chosen. Maybe you can't imagine another way, but plenty of people do. Lots and lots of people retire to places that are less materially well-off to enjoy a culture not as focused on getting and spending.
I'm the poster moving to Belize and I just want to say thanks! This is exactly our perspective. We know there are some things that might get harder and we are fortunate enough (unlike many Belizeans), to be able to plan for that. We can fly back to the US, use our US health insurance, and get care. We can self-pay in Mexico which we can quickly access via water taxi. As for routine care, I got a UTI when we were there last and it his hard. I walked into a pharmacy and for around $5, in 3 minutes, I was taking my first dose of antibiotics.
I have all the clothes I need for now. I'm a simple girl. I already said I'd be coming back to the US a couple/few times a year to see my kids/family and I fully anticipate I will stock up when I'm here. Again, I'm fortunate that I can do that. The island is a simple place and my shorts and plain t-shirts and summer dresses will suit me just fine.
I'll admit we're cheating. A lot of North American expats who move to Belize move off the grid -- solar, cistern water, septic, and even growing their own food. We will be living in the village with a shop on the corner, public electric and water, and, while we are going to try to use Belizean air conditioning (open windows and doors on all 4 sides to create a breeze), I'm sure that we will be turning on our AC units from time-to-time.
We will also do what many expats do and continue our streaming services. We don't even have regular TV here so I don't see any decrease in availability of entertainment. I'm not sure why you don't realize that my AT&T iPhone works just the same there as it does here. Not even an extra fee. The government upgraded internet services and it's quite good. A little more expensive than here, but since just about everything else is significantly cheaper, it's a wash.
We know what we're giving up. What we're turning away from. We're ready and excited and believe in what we're doing. I don't expect other people to embrace this type of move, but it seems silly to disparage what others are doing without actually knowing the reality of what they're doing. I actually wouldn't have the nerves to move to neighboring countries such as Mexico, Guatemala, or Honduras specifically because of the concerns about government, law, and corruption, plus crime and I don't speak Spanish. So that would be a huge step too far for me. But I understand why others do it and applaud them for being able to take that step. I've also lived abroad before, way before internet or easy phone calls, etc. so I know what it feels like, but this practically feels like cheating that I can Facetime my kids in the US for free!
That kind of lifestyle is definitely not for me but I checked out your island and I approve your move. Also, I like you, PP, so my DH and I decided to visit you next year. We have no food allergies.
Different poster here. Whatever you're serving pp for dinner will be just fine for me as well.
Belize poster here. You guys are fun. When the time is right, I will come back to this and post where you can find me on the island. Let's have dinner!
Anonymous wrote:Interesting how many want to move to rural areas. I’ve known a few retirees who have done that. But social isolation is a real hazard, and a huge mental health issue among the elderly. For me, a mid-sized city with arts & cultural events is a better option.
Anonymous wrote:We're moving to Belize in October. Can't wait. The kids can't wait to visit and we will be back a few times a year for a few weeks each time.
Oooh! Sounds amazing! Tell us more!
We're moving to an island off the coast so not on the mainland. The mainland is cheaper but we fell in love with the island (Ambergris Caye). We're buying a small house on the lagoon side on a canal with a small swimming pool and a nice fenced in lot for under $300K. There are no private cars so you have a golf cart or bike or walk (or boat). There's about 20,000 people on the island altogether at peak season. It's around 82 degrees and usually sunny every day. English is the official language. There's no one day delivery, no chain stores or restaurants, no mass shootings, no commuting. It's a simpler, slower way of life. I've been working online/phone throughout the pandemic so I'll continue to do that. We're also starting a small, simple business that we can at least afford to run/break even on and will probably significantly contribute to our expenses.
Including my portion of my kids' college tuition, health insurance in the US just in case of a catastrophic illness (routine care down there is super cheap), and a reasonable day-to-day existence including travel to/from the US, tickets for the kids, and meals out usually at local, sometimes at tourist restaurants, we can live on under $4,000/month. Easily. Most Belizeans on the island live on under $1,000/month so that would be a very comfortable existence.
We're tired of the violence in the US, the political situation, the orange man possibly coming back, the traffic, the commute, the commercialism, the expense. Belize is absolutely not perfect, but people are happy, it's beautiful, we can work to live and have more time for outdoor activities, we will have a lighter footprint on the earth, and it's really not that much harder to get to than if my kids went to college anywhere from the Midwest to California. Around 8 hours from BWI to the island if you work it right.
I give it 5 years, tops, before you’re back.
Yeah, OK, not too concerned about your opinion. We are well aware of the downsides of our move, but feel the upsides way outweigh them.
In terms of hurricanes, they're not too frequent on Ambergris Caye -- something about the reef being protective. They do evacuate to the mainland occasionally and there is some damage. We're buying a low profile house away from the Caribbean side of the island so we have more protection than we would. My house here had quite a bit of hurricane damage previously so it's not like we are out of danger of that here. Again, we all choose what we are willing to live with and I choose not to go to shopping malls, drive in traffic, deal with the prospect of mass shootings, and the consumerism of American society. To each his own.
I think it's an awesome idea, and ignore the naysayers. People here in DC can be crabs in a bucket, mostly driven by envy and fear that the safe treadmill they've chosen may not be the VERY BEST option in life. Great on you for getting out of here and seeing what else is available. I hope to have the guts to explore that when my kids are a little older.
Disagree. PP is moving for emotional reasons and sounds hysterical. Moving because of school shootings and consumerism? The only reason there isn’t consumerism in Belize is because everyone is too poor and their government and legal system is so incompetent that your average person can’t build any wealth or really accomplish much at all. It’s easy to bash American consumerism but it makes our life very comfortable and it’s what pretty much what every single person on the planet wants. I doubt PP will be giving up his American consumer goods (iphone, TV shows, antibiotics, Tylenol, clothing etc) when he or she moves to his or her second world country.
PP will be back because of bad healthcare, corruption, lack of building codes, crime that actually affects wealthy people, a lack of infrastructure and consumer goods, etc. I could go on.
Speaking of hysterical.... It is obvious you've never lived in a less materially rich place, so your perspective is one of fear and ignorance. The fact that you cannot imagine a world without the things that make your life "very comfortable" says a lot about you, and pretty much makes my point that you have gone all in on the "getting and spending" and have lost perspective on other ways to enjoy life.
And yes, you can have things like Tylenol and antibiotics without also the culture in the DC area of constantly trying to make and spend money to feel important. You act like if you want some basic things you must also stay chained to the tread mill that you've chosen. Maybe you can't imagine another way, but plenty of people do. Lots and lots of people retire to places that are less materially well-off to enjoy a culture not as focused on getting and spending.
I'm the poster moving to Belize and I just want to say thanks! This is exactly our perspective. We know there are some things that might get harder and we are fortunate enough (unlike many Belizeans), to be able to plan for that. We can fly back to the US, use our US health insurance, and get care. We can self-pay in Mexico which we can quickly access via water taxi. As for routine care, I got a UTI when we were there last and it his hard. I walked into a pharmacy and for around $5, in 3 minutes, I was taking my first dose of antibiotics.
I have all the clothes I need for now. I'm a simple girl. I already said I'd be coming back to the US a couple/few times a year to see my kids/family and I fully anticipate I will stock up when I'm here. Again, I'm fortunate that I can do that. The island is a simple place and my shorts and plain t-shirts and summer dresses will suit me just fine.
I'll admit we're cheating. A lot of North American expats who move to Belize move off the grid -- solar, cistern water, septic, and even growing their own food. We will be living in the village with a shop on the corner, public electric and water, and, while we are going to try to use Belizean air conditioning (open windows and doors on all 4 sides to create a breeze), I'm sure that we will be turning on our AC units from time-to-time.
We will also do what many expats do and continue our streaming services. We don't even have regular TV here so I don't see any decrease in availability of entertainment. I'm not sure why you don't realize that my AT&T iPhone works just the same there as it does here. Not even an extra fee. The government upgraded internet services and it's quite good. A little more expensive than here, but since just about everything else is significantly cheaper, it's a wash.
We know what we're giving up. What we're turning away from. We're ready and excited and believe in what we're doing. I don't expect other people to embrace this type of move, but it seems silly to disparage what others are doing without actually knowing the reality of what they're doing. I actually wouldn't have the nerves to move to neighboring countries such as Mexico, Guatemala, or Honduras specifically because of the concerns about government, law, and corruption, plus crime and I don't speak Spanish. So that would be a huge step too far for me. But I understand why others do it and applaud them for being able to take that step. I've also lived abroad before, way before internet or easy phone calls, etc. so I know what it feels like, but this practically feels like cheating that I can Facetime my kids in the US for free!
That kind of lifestyle is definitely not for me but I checked out your island and I approve your move. Also, I like you, PP, so my DH and I decided to visit you next year. We have no food allergies.
Different poster here. Whatever you're serving pp for dinner will be just fine for me as well.
Belize poster here. You guys are fun. When the time is right, I will come back to this and post where you can find me on the island. Let's have dinner!
PP here. I'm in!
Seriously though, I understand where you're coming from. We had to leave DC in part due to the growing crime. We still have school-aged kids, so we just moved to a different area with good schools. It's been so liberating to enjoy more year-round outdoor time and enjoy a more low-key social life. I realized that I have no idea what many of the other parents do for work. It just doesn't come up at parties. We do play dates with other families and won't even ask until 6 play dates in. People talk about hobbies, sports, fun stuff they're doing.
I'm excited for you and your spouse and really hope this works out for you. It sounds like you have a great plan together and I'm sure your guest room will be lovely
We were late 40's when our kids finished college. No desire at all to move. In fact, we renovated the house, put in a nice garden, and enjoyed our close-in Maryland home for 25 more years. Eventually moved to a nearby condo. One of our kids is in Bethesda, so that's a plus.
We have recently encountered some serious medical issues, as happens at our age. We've been both relieved and grateful to find specialists who are up to date on these conditions, and hospitals that can provide good care. However we feel about climate, ocean view, etc., availability of good medical care is paramount, which pretty much excludes both Florida and the nearby shore communities.
Anonymous wrote:4 years for us! Requirements (we haven't yet figured it out, but am watching this thread for ideas):
Blue state
Good medical care
Within 50 minutes of an International Airport
College town a plus, but not tiny college and not big state U
Would like to be on a natural lake, but not a deal breaker
4 seasons, ok if winters are miserable, we will head to Costa Rica or Puerto Rico for 2 months
Ok if summers are humid and miserable, we will head to Maine or Oregon for 2 months
How about Peachtree City, Georgia, renowned for 100+ miles of multi-use golf cart paths? I am semi-retired, living at Tysons and having a second home at Peachtree City. Your criterion is pretty similar to mine.
-GA from red to blue state in recent years
-5 to 10 minutes of drive to Piedmont Hospital (ranked among 100 best hospitals in the nation)
-20 to 30 minutes of drive to Atlanta International Airport
-Situated around beautiful 3 lakes
-Definitely 4 seasons with mild winter
-Ranked as best place to live/retire (Money, Forbes)
Anonymous wrote:We're moving to Belize in October. Can't wait. The kids can't wait to visit and we will be back a few times a year for a few weeks each time.
Oooh! Sounds amazing! Tell us more!
We're moving to an island off the coast so not on the mainland. The mainland is cheaper but we fell in love with the island (Ambergris Caye). We're buying a small house on the lagoon side on a canal with a small swimming pool and a nice fenced in lot for under $300K. There are no private cars so you have a golf cart or bike or walk (or boat). There's about 20,000 people on the island altogether at peak season. It's around 82 degrees and usually sunny every day. English is the official language. There's no one day delivery, no chain stores or restaurants, no mass shootings, no commuting. It's a simpler, slower way of life. I've been working online/phone throughout the pandemic so I'll continue to do that. We're also starting a small, simple business that we can at least afford to run/break even on and will probably significantly contribute to our expenses.
Including my portion of my kids' college tuition, health insurance in the US just in case of a catastrophic illness (routine care down there is super cheap), and a reasonable day-to-day existence including travel to/from the US, tickets for the kids, and meals out usually at local, sometimes at tourist restaurants, we can live on under $4,000/month. Easily. Most Belizeans on the island live on under $1,000/month so that would be a very comfortable existence.
We're tired of the violence in the US, the political situation, the orange man possibly coming back, the traffic, the commute, the commercialism, the expense. Belize is absolutely not perfect, but people are happy, it's beautiful, we can work to live and have more time for outdoor activities, we will have a lighter footprint on the earth, and it's really not that much harder to get to than if my kids went to college anywhere from the Midwest to California. Around 8 hours from BWI to the island if you work it right.
I give it 5 years, tops, before you’re back.
Yeah, OK, not too concerned about your opinion. We are well aware of the downsides of our move, but feel the upsides way outweigh them.
In terms of hurricanes, they're not too frequent on Ambergris Caye -- something about the reef being protective. They do evacuate to the mainland occasionally and there is some damage. We're buying a low profile house away from the Caribbean side of the island so we have more protection than we would. My house here had quite a bit of hurricane damage previously so it's not like we are out of danger of that here. Again, we all choose what we are willing to live with and I choose not to go to shopping malls, drive in traffic, deal with the prospect of mass shootings, and the consumerism of American society. To each his own.
I have a lot of experience in that part of the world. Two observations. 1. It’s not as peaceful / violence free as the brochures might make you think. 2. North American (Canadian/USA) expats living there are almost all weirdos. Literally almost all of them.
Number 2 is the real problem though.
Phenomenal place to visit. To live there among and with the expats? No thanks.
Anonymous wrote:We were late 40's when our kids finished college. No desire at all to move. In fact, we renovated the house, put in a nice garden, and enjoyed our close-in Maryland home for 25 more years. Eventually moved to a nearby condo. One of our kids is in Bethesda, so that's a plus.
We have recently encountered some serious medical issues, as happens at our age. We've been both relieved and grateful to find specialists who are up to date on these conditions, and hospitals that can provide good care. However we feel about climate, ocean view, etc., availability of good medical care is paramount, which pretty much excludes both Florida and the nearby shore communities.
Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
+1 million.
Many of my friends have plans to move, so the community is going to be broken up anyway. They are moving for various reasons: lifestyle, to be closer to family (either for eldercare or to be around grandkids), finances.
Anonymous wrote:I dont get people who want to move away from friends and community they spent 18+ years building unless its totally unaffordable. When my kids are grown ill get to garden more, spend more time with the friends i made and enjoy my neighborhood more.
+1 million.
Many of my friends have plans to move, so the community is going to be broken up anyway. They are moving for various reasons: lifestyle, to be closer to family (either for eldercare or to be around grandkids), finances.
I am not yet of retirement age (getting close though) and I think about how our community and neighborhood will change once many start retiring and moving away as it felt when my oldest child moved on to high school from their k-8 school and my much younger one was moving up the grades at the same school. The school community was still lovely but our core group of family friends were no longer there and it just felt so different.
Anonymous wrote:We were late 40's when our kids finished college. No desire at all to move. In fact, we renovated the house, put in a nice garden, and enjoyed our close-in Maryland home for 25 more years. Eventually moved to a nearby condo. One of our kids is in Bethesda, so that's a plus.
We have recently encountered some serious medical issues, as happens at our age. We've been both relieved and grateful to find specialists who are up to date on these conditions, and hospitals that can provide good care. However we feel about climate, ocean view, etc., availability of good medical care is paramount, which pretty much excludes both Florida and the nearby shore communities.
Florida doesn’t have good medical care? lmao
+1 That's what I thought when I read it. Florida has had great medical care for decades.
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