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Anonymous
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As long as it is all voluntary and appropriately advertised, then I don’t see the problem.
If people want to take their kids to this, that’s okay. If people don’t want to take their kids, that’s okay too. What is not okay is if people are not provided options to decide for themselves. So I would not be a fan of the public library just advertising a “story hour” and you would not be able to know if it was or was not a “drag queen story hour”. It is important to distinguish this from just a trans person reading stories, which is different because a “drag queen” is a specific persona and in effect a costume. |
Anonymous
YES. THIS. x1,000,000. |
Anonymous
I’ve never seen Spider-Man on a pole but I believe you if you said it on the internet. Did Elsa strip? |
Anonymous
That's an interesting point. But the library wouldn't need to disclose in advance that Elsa or Alice in Wonderland might show up at story time. Why is that, do you think? What is it about the persona of a Drag Queen that differentiates it from just any fictional female character? Could it be that they are males who are pantomiming female sexuality, and those personas exist to entertain adult patrons in adult spaces regarding sexual themes? |
Anonymous
Tell me you don't understand drag without telling me you don't understand drag. And when someone has their kids watch The Little Mermaid, and Ursula comes onscreen with her gigantic boobs and gyrates around singing about "body language," is that also desensitizing your kids to appropriate boundaries and behavior regarding sex? |
Anonymous
What? I would hope a library would give a head's up if they were having paid entertainers come to story time, regardless of their gender and/or the gender of the character they're portraying. Some (albeit fewer) parents are equally weird about Disney, let's be real. And I have never heard of a drag queen story time that wasn't advertised as such so the audience could self select. The performers probably don't want to deal with surprise hate either. |
Anonymous
FWIW, I didnt let my daughter watch that either. The message of "I can get him to love me as long as I shut up and be pretty" wasn't the best. We kept Beautiy & the Beast out of our house too, bc the message "If I just love him hard enough, he'll stop abusing me" wasn't ok either. I also wouldnt take my daughter to a drag story hour. It feels performative and more for the benefit of the parents than the actual kid. I'm not going to let people use my kid as a pawn in their social media competitions |
Anonymous
People have explained multiple times, but you just don’t want to learn or listen. Of course, that is consistent behavior for a misogynist. In any case, there has been years and years of feminist discussion about the misogyny and sexism of drag, which a minimal amount of time on Google and feminist publications could have found for you, if you were actually interested in learning what feminists thought, and not just in shutting down conversation. Here are two links, for instance (and there are deeper discussions in feminist journals): https://www.feministcurrent.com/2014/04/25/why-has-drag-escaped-critique-from-feminists-and-the-lgbtq-community/ https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/gay-men-lgbt-50th-anniversary-misogyny-rupaul-drag-race-fishy-queen-lesbians-a7862516.html These articles came up in the first page of searching. I spent 30 seconds on it. If you really wanted to understand why some feminists consider drag deeply misogynist, you could have taken the time to learn before whining about how nobody has explained it to you (which is objectively false). But you just want to shut women’s opinions down. |
Anonymous
My sister suffers from an eating disorder. I don’t stick my fingers down her throat to let her know I empathize with the fact that she doesn’t feel right in her body. You can be kind to people without catering to their internal struggle. Given the over the top nature of drag performances, we aren’t talking about people quietly struggling with themselves. We are talking about people actively seeking attention however they can get it. |
Anonymous
Was this particular chain of responses deleted? I’m having trouble finding the original response. If not, what exactly is an “authentic woman” (as the PPP called it)? |
Anonymous
A drag performer is traditionally a cisgender gay man. Some trans people as well as cisgender women do drag now as well. The thing that some people that aren't familiar with drag don't seem to understand is that a drag queen is a character putting on a performance. A trans woman normally takes hormones which changes the shape of her body/face and make her grow breasts as well as a host of other things that happen on estrogen. There are a lot of possible surgeries that trans women can get. Some get all, some get none. Trans women live their entire lives as women. Sometimes you'll see a really cringy looking trans woman but that's usually early in transition. After a few years, most have the goal of just blending in as best as they can because they just want to live a normal life like they did before. But now as a woman because that matches how they felt inside. When a drag queen takes off the costume, he's a man under it. A trans woman looks like (or does her best to look like) and lives as a woman all the time. |
Anonymous
And we are talking about performances that aren’t benign, that rely on and feed truly harmful stereotypes of women for the sake of entertainment. Being kind doesn’t mean being a doormat. It does not mean accepting grotesque minstrel performances of women as “funny.” It does not mean letting men mock the physical body of women for entertainment while that same body that has been the target of a millennia of violence from men. We can stand up and say no. We can point out that while you (top PP) are lecturing us on being kind, you’re only really extending kindness to men. We can observe the hypocrisy, the performative mentality, the astonishing privilege on display. You can’t shut women’s language down and women’s thoughts down by telling us to “be kind.” That is, in the end, so very typically male: just shut up and let the men speak. |
Anonymous
np Doesn't raunchy=sexy? |
Anonymous
| How are these performers being compensated when they perform at public libraries and how much? |
Anonymous
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From the MOcO Library website:
Drag Queen Story Hour (DQSH) is just what it sounds like—drag queens reading stories to children in libraries, schools, and bookstores. DQSH captures the imagination and play of the gender fluidity of childhood and gives kids glamorous, positive, and unabashedly queer role models. In spaces like this, kids are able to see people who defy rigid gender restrictions and imagine a world where people can present as they wish and where dress-up is real. |