VT this Friday?

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Every year this happens and every year I don’t understand why people get upset. It is the same story just about every time: “my super high stat kid was waitlisted”. Well did they visit? No. Was VT a priority? No. Did they ED? No. Was VT even near the top of your list? No. Then why be upset? VT took the kids that wanted to be there, and by the way, those kids had good stats too.

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.

Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.

That is nuts. Where else did they apply?

This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.

Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.

W&M does not do the same thing.

Of course they do. They make it very clear that ED is given a big boost. If you don’t apply ED, chances are good you won’t be accepted. Many universities do this.

DS got the "likely postcard" from W&M this month for RD. Unhooked NOVA. Formal tour two years ago was only interest shown. He was considering applying CS to Tech but saw similar stat kids getting deferred ED! Tech has some crazy calculation/objective for new admits. Whatever it is, it does NOT include admitting unhooked male CS majors from NOVA.

Huh. We know several “unhooked male CS majors from NOVA” currently attending VT.

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.

Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.

That is nuts. Where else did they apply?

This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.

Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.

W&M does not do the same thing.

Of course they do. They make it very clear that ED is given a big boost. If you don’t apply ED, chances are good you won’t be accepted. Many universities do this.

DS got the "likely postcard" from W&M this month for RD. Unhooked NOVA. Formal tour two years ago was only interest shown. He was considering applying CS to Tech but saw similar stat kids getting deferred ED! Tech has some crazy calculation/objective for new admits. Whatever it is, it does NOT include admitting unhooked male CS majors from NOVA.

Huh. We know several “unhooked male CS majors from NOVA” currently attending VT.

1500+, 4.5 GPA? No you don't.

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Anonymous wrote:No other VA school is quite as unpredictable as Tech. After they overenrolled in 2019, they have been trying to stabilize yield since they grossly underestimated and famously had to put freshmen in hotels. That has led to accepting lower stats kids because they felt more comfortable that they'd attend and WL high stat kids. That is just a fact, ask any college counselor familiar with the school.

This. I think it's smarmy that they don't admit that's what's going on. The other factor for kids who aren't obviously high above the profile is the short-answer questions. They care a lot about those. I heard an interview with one of their admissions people a while ago where they talked about how important they are in the process and said service especially is a core value at VT (it is their motto).

“Smarmy”? They are by far the most transparent school in VA, and certainly the only one I’ve ever seen, that publishes all admission stats, broken down by any category you can think of. Name one other school that does this. Lots of sour grapes here, from parents who just can’t grasp that their kid was not admitted. Not a good look.

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Anonymous wrote:(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?

Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.

What process solves this?

ED solves this. High stats kids who *really* want to go to VT should apply ED. Those complaining about rejections did not.

Virginia is the only state where public schools have ED. Sounds like the VT position is high stats in state kids should not apply to UVA or other schools if they want to get into VT. But they are more okay for slightly lower stats in state kids to apply to multiple schools. Okay seems hard to justify that as a fair transparent way to serve the state. It also seems a little defeatist.

Good grief. How do you explain all the high-stats kids who DO get into VT?

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Anonymous wrote:Is Salisbury a public? At quick glance, Vrginia may have the ONLY public schools that ED.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/early-decision-schools-and-colleges-complete-list

The College of New Jersey, but I get your point. VA publics do seem a little sensitive to being a runner up.

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.

Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.

That is nuts. Where else did they apply?

This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.

Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.

W&M does not do the same thing.

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Why is it that every thread about W&M includes the advice to show as much interest as possible and ALWAYS apply ED for best chance of admission? Because they “want the kids that want them.” Well, the same applies for VT and ED. Not sure why the acceptance of W&M’s policies but not VT’s.

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Anonymous wrote:(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?

Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.

What process solves this?

ED solves this. High stats kids who *really* want to go to VT should apply ED. Those complaining about rejections did not.

Virginia is the only state where public schools have ED. Sounds like the VT position is high stats in state kids should not apply to UVA or other schools if they want to get into VT. But they are more okay for slightly lower stats in state kids to apply to multiple schools. Okay seems hard to justify that as a fair transparent way to serve the state. It also seems a little defeatist.

Virginia isn’t even close to being the only stare where public universities have ED.

It is much more prevalent in VA than other states.

DP. Good. It’s a fantastic way to show interest and commit to your top choice school. More states should have it.

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Anonymous wrote:Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.

Then apply ED and stop complaining.

Agree. Apply ED instate to either UVA or VT whichever is your first choice and stop complaining and saying oh that was my first choice after decisions come out.

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The whining is beyond belief. Clearly, these parents assumed their kids would get into VT and they wouldn’t have a ton of competition. You know what they say about assuming…

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.

Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.

That is nuts. Where else did they apply?

This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.

Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.

W&M does not do the same thing.

Of course they do. They make it very clear that ED is given a big boost. If you don’t apply ED, chances are good you won’t be accepted. Many universities do this.

DS got the "likely postcard" from W&M this month for RD. Unhooked NOVA. Formal tour two years ago was only interest shown. He was considering applying CS to Tech but saw similar stat kids getting deferred ED! Tech has some crazy calculation/objective for new admits. Whatever it is, it does NOT include admitting unhooked male CS majors from NOVA.

Huh. We know several “unhooked male CS majors from NOVA” currently attending VT.

1500+, 4.5 GPA? No you don't.

BS. Some of the top kids in our high school chose VT as their top choice and guess what? They are currently there. I’m afraid you’re sounding quite delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.

Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.

That is nuts. Where else did they apply?

This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.

Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.

W&M does not do the same thing.

Of course they do. They make it very clear that ED is given a big boost. If you don’t apply ED, chances are good you won’t be accepted. Many universities do this.

DS got the "likely postcard" from W&M this month for RD. Unhooked NOVA. Formal tour two years ago was only interest shown. He was considering applying CS to Tech but saw similar stat kids getting deferred ED! Tech has some crazy calculation/objective for new admits. Whatever it is, it does NOT include admitting unhooked male CS majors from NOVA.

Huh. We know several “unhooked male CS majors from NOVA” currently attending VT.

1500+, 4.5 GPA? No you don't.

BS. Some of the top kids in our high school chose VT as their top choice and guess what? They are currently there. I’m afraid you’re sounding quite delusional.

Why does this frighten you?

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Many states like UT Austin also guarantee admission to in state high stats kids.

UT guarantees admission but not to specific programs. PP is correct, high stat kids who really want VT, especially for CS and engineering, need to ED. Whining after the fact that VT is their first choice is silly if their strategy for applications doesn't reflect that. VT doesn't want to be a safety.

THIS.

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.

Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.

That is nuts. Where else did they apply?

This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.

Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.

W&M does not do the same thing.

Of course they do. They make it very clear that ED is given a big boost. If you don’t apply ED, chances are good you won’t be accepted. Many universities do this.

DS got the "likely postcard" from W&M this month for RD. Unhooked NOVA. Formal tour two years ago was only interest shown. He was considering applying CS to Tech but saw similar stat kids getting deferred ED! Tech has some crazy calculation/objective for new admits. Whatever it is, it does NOT include admitting unhooked male CS majors from NOVA.

Huh. We know several “unhooked male CS majors from NOVA” currently attending VT.

1500+, 4.5 GPA? No you don't.

BS. Some of the top kids in our high school chose VT as their top choice and guess what? They are currently there. I’m afraid you’re sounding quite delusional.

Why does this frighten you?

What are you talking about?

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Anonymous wrote:Every year this happens and every year I don’t understand why people get upset. It is the same story just about every time: “my super high stat kid was waitlisted”. Well did they visit? No. Was VT a priority? No. Did they ED? No. Was VT even near the top of your list? No. Then why be upset? VT took the kids that wanted to be there, and by the way, those kids had good stats too.

Thank you. Exactly this. Which is why I find it bizarre that the same crowd is so sanguine about the fact that many other schools do exactly the same thing, notably W&M and UVA. Basic common sense flies out the window here.

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.

Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.

That is nuts. Where else did they apply?

This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.

Precisely this. Why does no one complain when W&M does exactly the same thing? If you don't apply ED, you have a much lower chance of getting in. Why? Because they know you're not their first choice. Makes sense to me.

W&M does not do the same thing.

Of course they do. They make it very clear that ED is given a big boost. If you don’t apply ED, chances are good you won’t be accepted. Many universities do this.

DS got the "likely postcard" from W&M this month for RD. Unhooked NOVA. Formal tour two years ago was only interest shown. He was considering applying CS to Tech but saw similar stat kids getting deferred ED! Tech has some crazy calculation/objective for new admits. Whatever it is, it does NOT include admitting unhooked male CS majors from NOVA.

Huh. We know several “unhooked male CS majors from NOVA” currently attending VT.

1500+, 4.5 GPA? No you don't.

Um, wanna bet? Get over yourself, lick your wounds, and move on.