APS overdose at Wakefield

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand all the outrage about the schools.

This is 100% a parent fail.

I don’t think this is a parenting fail—lots of involved and loving parents lose children to drugs. But I agree with you there’s not much schools could have done to prevent this. According to my son there are posters everywhere that one pill can kill and they have talked about drug use.

Yes. Agree not a parenting fail. I did drugs as a teenager. My parents were amazing and I don't know what more they could have done to stop me (short of chaining me in my room). They fought hard for me..I still made the choices I made. Luckily came put the other side and 20 years clean next week.

[Anonymous]

I had a conversation with my 5th grader to remind him that he only takes medication given to him by a parent or a known medical professional. We discussed that drugs that can kill you are being sold that look like medications and taking something from another kid or adult who is not a doctor is very risky.

Drugs today are far more potent and dangerous then drugs when I was in school in the 90's. It is truly scary out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bathrooms aren't the issue. These kids are taking pills. They can take pills anywhere.

The issue is the drug. The issue is WHY they take the drug. The issue is WHY they want to feel the way the drug makes them feel to escape from their real lives. We need to fix that.

And this is not a good neighborhood vs bad neighborhood problem.

+ 1 million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand all the outrage about the schools.

This is 100% a parent fail.

I don’t think this is a parenting fail—lots of involved and loving parents lose children to drugs. But I agree with you there’s not much schools could have done to prevent this. According to my son there are posters everywhere that one pill can kill and they have talked about drug use.

Yes. Agree not a parenting fail. I did drugs as a teenager. My parents were amazing and I don't know what more they could have done to stop me (short of chaining me in my room). They fought hard for me..I still made the choices I made. Luckily came put the other side and 20 years clean next week.

20 yrs, That’s amazing! I lost my mom when she was only in her 50s to addiction. She also had involved parents.

I also know that the majority of my sorority sisters tried drugs in college; all their parents were at parents weekend, drove them home for holidays, etc. involved. Fortunately fentanyl wasn’t in the picture then or this tragedy would have surely occurred with them as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So damn horrible!

If you want to support the family:
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-my-family-raise-money-for-my-cousins-funeral?

Very sad if he did die.

Doesn’t $15k seem high for a funeral? Would that include medical bills?

No it does not seem high at all. The average cost is about $10k. You clearly have not needed to bury anyone.

And I am sure there are medical bills as well, and yes if this can cover those, or some time off for his family to grieve, even better.

I really dislike your insinuation this is some sort of money grubbing scheme. A child is dead.

The deceased looks like a young child - he was only a young child. The family may have beliefs that do not allow cremation (which is a cheaper option than not cremation). I do not know them, this is a guess on my part. The child deserves to be honored and buried properly. Too young. Prayers for the family, truly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand all the outrage about the schools.

This is 100% a parent fail.

I don’t think this is a parenting fail—lots of involved and loving parents lose children to drugs. But I agree with you there’s not much schools could have done to prevent this. According to my son there are posters everywhere that one pill can kill and they have talked about drug use.

Yes. Agree not a parenting fail. I did drugs as a teenager. My parents were amazing and I don't know what more they could have done to stop me (short of chaining me in my room). They fought hard for me..I still made the choices I made. Luckily came put the other side and 20 years clean next week.

20 yrs, That’s amazing! I lost my mom when she was only in her 50s to addiction. She also had involved parents.

I also know that the majority of my sorority sisters tried drugs in college; all their parents were at parents weekend, drove them home for holidays, etc. involved. Fortunately fentanyl wasn’t in the picture then or this tragedy would have surely occurred with them as well.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bathrooms aren't the issue. These kids are taking pills. They can take pills anywhere.

The issue is the drug. The issue is WHY they take the drug. The issue is WHY they want to feel the way the drug makes them feel to escape from their real lives. We need to fix that.

And this is not a good neighborhood vs bad neighborhood problem.

+ 1 million

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The same phones we've given our kids to keep them "safe" are the same phones they're using to buy drugs off Snapchat.

Drugs are in every neighborhood and every school no matter if it's Title 1 high school or an 80K per year boarding school.

Kids who use drugs come from all kinds of families.

No family/community is immune.

Time for all parents to get their heads out of the sand.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one wants to acknowledge the huge increase in Drugs is an open borders issue. SAD

The one poster who just keeps complaining about open borders is SAD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s surprising to me that People weren’t paying attention before this. The schools have been messaging about pills with fentanyl so have the police and the feds. It’s all over the newspapers. No backpack policy or anything else that schools can do will change the situation. It’s a drug crisis. This tragic death at Wakefield is exactly what’s been happening in high schools EVERYWHERE. it’s miraculous it didn’t happen in APS before today.

Yup. Sadly, this is everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a pill is laced with fentanyl, I think someone who mistakenly takes it should be considered a victim of poisoning, not ODing.

When someone ODs, they take too much of a drug they intended to take. '

When someone is poisoned, they are given a harmful dose of a drug they had no intention of taking.

This is how I explained it to my kids. That many pills are poisoned by bad people. It’s not worth the risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a pill is laced with fentanyl, I think someone who mistakenly takes it should be considered a victim of poisoning, not ODing.

When someone ODs, they take too much of a drug they intended to take. '

When someone is poisoned, they are given a harmful dose of a drug they had no intention of taking.

+1000

I think it’s referred to as an accidental overdose, but I get what you’re saying. Maybe it would help with the stigma. It really does seem “one pill can kill” needs to be repeated and publicized heavily among youth.

This. A lot of people (kids AND parents) are not seeing "the pills" as "doing drugs" but as "taking medications", just not through the proper channels. Therefore, a lot of parents have the mental block "oh my child is not doing this/not exposed to this" and a lot of youth are not aware of the gravity of what they are doing or consider doing. 100% need a heavy public campaign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even in schools with clear backpacks you’re allowed to have a small personal item, like for girls to have their tampons and pads in. Clearly drugs can easily fit in there or their Jean pockets. Hey, why don’t we ban hoodies while we’re at it, think of what could fit in the hood or the pouch?

Yes, the clear backpack won't do a thing here. Even for guns, an older teen can conceal carry, never needs to show up in a backpack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think education needs to start early for students- 5th or 6th grade. And, I think that parents should be made to attend a yearly drug/alcohol class.

This is not just on the schools. Us parents also need to do better.

+1

[Anonymous]

I came late to this thread, did someone at the school administer narcan? I thought that was a pretty reliable antidote to fentanyl overdose. I hope all schools have narcan readily available.