APS overdose at Wakefield

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Quite honestly why not just pre-emptively shift to a clear backpack policy for the whole district? What would it hurt? It would provide greater clarity and transparency, create less room for contraband objects to be carried in, and be done collectively as a whole vice in reaction to events, etc. like is happening in Newport News. Just be proactive rather than reactive. I understand it might not be popular, but, I think safety should trump popularity.

Clear backpack policies are one of those things that schools do because it makes it look like the admin is doing something without actually doing anything. It's easy for the bosses, and the burden falls entirely on kids. Demand better, like competent administration, responsive leadership, closer relationships with law enforcement, and a whole-of-school-system approach to problems. All that other symbolic crap exists to keep the gravy train rolling.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand all the outrage about the schools.

This is 100% a parent fail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one wants to acknowledge the huge increase in Drugs is an open borders issue. SAD

1) We don’t have open borders. Whatever gave you that idea?
2) Most this comes through the mail.

[Anonymous]

The answer as a public policy matter is to decriminalize these drugs and regulate their recreational use.

British Columbia is trying just that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quite honestly why not just pre-emptively shift to a clear backpack policy for the whole district? What would it hurt? It would provide greater clarity and transparency, create less room for contraband objects to be carried in, and be done collectively as a whole vice in reaction to events, etc. like is happening in Newport News. Just be proactive rather than reactive. I understand it might not be popular, but, I think safety should trump popularity.

Do you know how small pills are? Who do you expect to search every small compartment? Go through kids pockets? Have you ever worked in a school, even for a couple of days?

No. I have no idea how small pills are. I've never taken a single one. Please enlighten me.

It's about the general notion of creating or reducing risk. Not explicitly for pills, but, also weapons. And even if it serves as a psychological deterrent to some effect or degree--make it harder for people to feel comfortable/confident/at ease attempting an activity, then you can decrease those incidents. But, go ahead, carry on as is vs. considering anything that could possibly be helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The answer as a public policy matter is to decriminalize these drugs and regulate their recreational use.

British Columbia is trying just that.

Uh. No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer as a public policy matter is to decriminalize these drugs and regulate their recreational use.

British Columbia is trying just that.

Uh. No.

No one who has seen some of the seedier parts of Vancouver would readily offer up British Columbia as a model.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one wants to acknowledge the huge increase in Drugs is an open borders issue. SAD

1) We don’t have open borders. Whatever gave you that idea?
2) Most this comes through the mail.

This is at least the 2nd time I’ve read this on this thread. This is not accurate. Maybe once it arrives in the US it is often distributed by mail. But a vast majority comes across the US in trucks and other legal points of entry, eg ports, airports.

And to the open border poster - a vast majority of people busted for smuggling these fake pills into the US are US citizens

[Anonymous]

+1 ridiculous attempt to distract from the truth

Source: CBO press release, “2022 Highlights”

CBP continues to seize more fentanyl each year. Fentanyl seizures at our ports of entry have increased over 200% in the last two fiscal years compared to the two prior fiscal years. CBP seized over 24,000 pounds of fentanyl in the last two fiscal years, representing billions of lethal doses.

FY 2022: 14,699 pounds
FY 2021: 11,201 pounds
FY 2020: 4,791 pounds
FY 2019: 2,545 pounds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quite honestly why not just pre-emptively shift to a clear backpack policy for the whole district? What would it hurt? It would provide greater clarity and transparency, create less room for contraband objects to be carried in, and be done collectively as a whole vice in reaction to events, etc. like is happening in Newport News. Just be proactive rather than reactive. I understand it might not be popular, but, I think safety should trump popularity.

Do you know how small pills are? Who do you expect to search every small compartment? Go through kids pockets? Have you ever worked in a school, even for a couple of days?

No. I have no idea how small pills are. I've never taken a single one. Please enlighten me.

It's about the general notion of creating or reducing risk. Not explicitly for pills, but, also weapons. And even if it serves as a psychological deterrent to some effect or degree--make it harder for people to feel comfortable/confident/at ease attempting an activity, then you can decrease those incidents. But, go ahead, carry on as is vs. considering anything that could possibly be helpful.

Please exit the conversation and leave it to people who actually work in schools.

[Anonymous]

I think education needs to start early for students- 5th or 6th grade. And, I think that parents should be made to attend a yearly drug/alcohol class.

This is not just on the schools. Us parents also need to do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Quite honestly why not just pre-emptively shift to a clear backpack policy for the whole district? What would it hurt? It would provide greater clarity and transparency, create less room for contraband objects to be carried in, and be done collectively as a whole vice in reaction to events, etc. like is happening in Newport News. Just be proactive rather than reactive. I understand it might not be popular, but, I think safety should trump popularity.

Clear backpack policies are one of those things that schools do because it makes it look like the admin is doing something without actually doing anything. It's easy for the bosses, and the burden falls entirely on kids. Demand better, like competent administration, responsive leadership, closer relationships with law enforcement, and a whole-of-school-system approach to problems. All that other symbolic crap exists to keep the gravy train rolling.

Yes, they wouldn’t do anything. You can put things in a pocket of clothes, sock, cell phone case, binder, folder…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:+1 ridiculous attempt to distract from the truth

Source: CBO press release, “2022 Highlights”

CBP continues to seize more fentanyl each year. Fentanyl seizures at our ports of entry have increased over 200% in the last two fiscal years compared to the two prior fiscal years. CBP seized over 24,000 pounds of fentanyl in the last two fiscal years, representing billions of lethal doses.

FY 2022: 14,699 pounds
FY 2021: 11,201 pounds
FY 2020: 4,791 pounds
FY 2019: 2,545 pounds

Still distributed by mail. And mad props to the Biden administration for doing more than trump to stop it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand all the outrage about the schools.

This is 100% a parent fail.

I don’t think this is a parenting fail—lots of involved and loving parents lose children to drugs. But I agree with you there’s not much schools could have done to prevent this. According to my son there are posters everywhere that one pill can kill and they have talked about drug use.

[Anonymous]

^the dangers of drug use.