T20 Universities list predictions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance
Don't forget Cornell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance
Don't forget Cornell

Cornell is the cut off for t15. It has strong programs across the board, and as climate change gets worse Ithaca will be a Refuge. It also places well across all majors into the nyc metro area which is the most important job market and most consewuential region in the country

Hypsm + Columbia Chicago caltech + jhu duke northwestern + Dartmouth brown penn + cornell ……

That’s the 15 and will be for a long time to come

Below that you start compromising something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance

You got something against Catholics? How about Jews? Muslims? LDS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance
Don't forget Cornell

Cornell is the cut off for t15. It has strong programs across the board, and as climate change gets worse Ithaca will be a Refuge. It also places well across all majors into the nyc metro area which is the most important job market and most consewuential region in the country

Hypsm + Columbia Chicago caltech + jhu duke northwestern + Dartmouth brown penn + cornell ……

That’s the 15 and will be for a long time to come

Below that you start compromising something.

+1. This is the undisputed T15.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top 20 is nebulous. It's not exactly the top 20 on USnews and there's other rankings out there. And yes that does include the the rest of the top 25 and LACs. T20 has always been more of a slang term that encompasses more than 20 schools.

This is what people from schools that are not ranked in the top 20 always say lol.

You're a moron. There is more than 1 ranking. Using USnews as the only ranking to qualify prestige is stupid especially since they don't rank LACs. For instance USC is 27 on USnews but 19 on Times. While Notre Dame is 19 on USnews and 36 on Times. So why should ND be considered a top school if USC is not? There's 5 undergrad rankings, they all should be taken into consideration not just 1.
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I have one kid in USC and one kid in ND, so I'll pick and choose better number from each LOL
However, USN&WR seems more reasonable for undergraduate.
Overall I would consider ND a T20 school and USC a T25 school.
Overall ranking is just for an initial reference, specific program and fit is more important.

For my kid 1 USC is definitely a better school, and for kid 2 ND is definitely a better school.

That's why rankings are so flawed. Ultimately, you're a moron if you pick a T20 schools solely on it's overall ranking. Much more important to pick by desired major, ability/ease to transfer to other majors, FIT for your kid (if kid loves the school and is excited and fits in, they will just do so much better in the long run), graduation rate, job placement, grad school placement, med school placement (there are smaller not T20 schools that place 85-90% of their students in med school the first year---that matters much more than attending a T20 school if your ultimate goal is med school), NCLEX pass rates if you plan to be nurse, and so many other things. Go where your kid finds their best fit. If it's a T30-50 school they are all amazing schools, but each has it's strengths and weaknesses. Kids do transfer out of Columbia, MIT, Harvard, etc...those are not perfect schools for everyone (and there are ones who stay but are not happy with their choice)

Well, at least there's a little sanity in this thread.

[Anonymous]

T15, T25, T50 makes sense.

ranking is usefule for initial screening and list.
there are many other more important things to consider after that

My kid got into #28 #36 but ended up choosing #49 school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance
Don't forget Cornell

Other than CMU for specific majors, I wouldn't consider any of these. I don't see they provide any value over any of the local flagship state schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance
Don't forget Cornell

Other than CMU for specific majors, I wouldn't consider any of these. I don't see they provide any value over any of the local flagship state schools.

Sure, maybe JHU for premed but not really worth it for anything else. Chicago, Duke, Northwestern so so ... I'm not even keen on Penn because having alumni like Trump is a dark stain... Sure, by all means go to HYP or MIT if you get in but the others are not really significantly better than top state options.

[Anonymous]

My prediction?

Even fewer colleges in female unfree states on the list …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance
Don't forget Cornell

Other than CMU for specific majors, I wouldn't consider any of these. I don't see they provide any value over any of the local flagship state schools.

based on what? it depends on a lot of things and different from induviduals to individuals.
We are talking in general, not for a specific case

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance
Don't forget Cornell

Other than CMU for specific majors, I wouldn't consider any of these. I don't see they provide any value over any of the local flagship state schools.

Sure, maybe JHU for premed but not really worth it for anything else. Chicago, Duke, Northwestern so so ... I'm not even keen on Penn because having alumni like Trump is a dark stain... Sure, by all means go to HYP or MIT if you get in but the others are not really significantly better than top state options.

This is just patently false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it should be t15….

Under that you start getting “spiky” school….

Nd…Catholics
Vandy…sundresses
Emory, rice…south
CMU (I like CMU a lot)….tech, poor QoL, Pittsburgh meh
Gtown….shitty endowment, shitty facilities, kids don’t like it, great public/social science sector programs

The rough t15 are schools that are just straight up strong and have resources and provenance
Don't forget Cornell

Other than CMU for specific majors, I wouldn't consider any of these. I don't see they provide any value over any of the local flagship state schools.

Sure, maybe JHU for premed but not really worth it for anything else. Chicago, Duke, Northwestern so so ... I'm not even keen on Penn because having alumni like Trump is a dark stain... Sure, by all means go to HYP or MIT if you get in but the others are not really significantly better than top state options.

This is just patently false.

What's patently false is that HYP and MIT are significantly better than top state options for everyone. For some, sure. Everyone? No.

[Anonymous]

Cornell hasn't been top 15 in over 5 years. If Cornell is top 15, Vandy is top 10.

[Anonymous]

According to this: https://publicuniversityhonors.com/2016/09/18/average-u-s-news-rankings-for-126-universities-2010-1017/

1. Princeton (1)
2. Harvard (2)
3. Yale (3.375)
4. Columbia (3.625)
5. Chicago (4.375)
6. MIT (4.75)
7. Stanford (5.375)
8. Penn (7.875)
9. Duke (9)
10. Hopkins (10.12)
11. Caltech (10.5)
12. Northwestern (10.62)
13. Dartmouth (11.87)
14. Brown (14.25)
15. Vanderbilt (14.87)
16. Cornell (15.87)
17. Rice (16.5)
18. Wash U (16.75)
19. Notre Dame (17.25)
20. Emory (20.87)
21. UC Berkeley (21)
22. UCLA (21.25)
23. Georgetown (21.75)
24. USC (23.37)
25. Carnegie Mellon (24.75)

Conell doesn't make T15.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to this: https://publicuniversityhonors.com/2016/09/18/average-u-s-news-rankings-for-126-universities-2010-1017/

1. Princeton (1)
2. Harvard (2)
3. Yale (3.375)
4. Columbia (3.625)
5. Chicago (4.375)
6. MIT (4.75)
7. Stanford (5.375)
8. Penn (7.875)
9. Duke (9)
10. Hopkins (10.12)
11. Caltech (10.5)
12. Northwestern (10.62)
13. Dartmouth (11.87)
14. Brown (14.25)
15. Vanderbilt (14.87)
16. Cornell (15.87)
17. Rice (16.5)
18. Wash U (16.75)
19. Notre Dame (17.25)
20. Emory (20.87)
21. UC Berkeley (21)
22. UCLA (21.25)
23. Georgetown (21.75)
24. USC (23.37)
25. Carnegie Mellon (24.75)

Conell doesn't make T15.

Quoting an article that is 6 years old doesn’t lend much credibility to your comment.