MCPS faces Teacher shortage next year

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Anonymous wrote:MCEA is committed to the salary steps which keep experienced teachers from earning decent pay when transferring to MCPS. MCEA is a big part of the problem. They also keep sub pay low. I would not recommend voting for any MCEA endorsed BOE candidates (Yang, Coll, Rivera-Oven).

If you had witnessed any part of the public contract negotiations that took place before the pandemic, you would know that is completely untrue. MCEA submitted proposals based on a perceived professional salary of $100k and how long one would expect to get to that level. They also requested dramatic increases in substitute teacher pay. MCPS responded with some gobbledegook of a salary scale which actually included pay decreases for more experienced staff. When called on it, they withdrew the counter offer and did not submit a new one. Increasing teacher pay and planning time have been priorities in MCEA bargaining. Which you would know, again, if you had witnessed any part of the negotiations.

I’m not the PP. I read that as MCEA discourages experienced teachers from transferring in. I don’t think she was referring to existing MCPS teachers.

I posted above about being offered a position. I was offered a job that would pay me 25K less than the published step I should be on if they respected my experience. Instead, I went to a neighboring county that offered me $19K more than MCPS offered. Truthfully, I felt rather disrespected by MCPS. The offer was rather insulting considering my experience and qualifications. (I also received a private school offer that was more than MCPS’s offer.)

Name the school district. I don’t believe you. I have 20 years experience at even though I would enter at a higher step in PG, Howard and Fairfax County, it wasn’t step 20 and the pay wasn’t that much (if at all) higher than MCPS. Also, I spent 9 years working in a MoCo private school with $40k annual tuition and I was paid exactly what MCPS would have paid me at the REDUCED entry of step 8. When I first moved to Maryland in 2012, MCPS allowed external candidates with a Master’s to enter at step 12. Then it was reduced to step 10 and now it’s step 8.

MCPS step 18 Masters - 102K
MCPS step 8 Masters (top salary for transfer) - 73K
PGCPS step 18 Masters - 88K
HCPSS step 18 Masters - 91K
Fairfax County step 13 Masters - 85K - cap for transfers is 13 and still higher than MCPS


What’s there not to believe? So the numbers may have been a bit off because I’m using current salary scales, but the point remains. MCPS is not attractive to experienced teachers.

As for your private experience, private schools vary WIDELY.

Privates also offer incentives like children of staff can attend the school for free. For prestigious privates that cost $50K a year, that’s a tax free bonus of $150K per year for 3 kids. A big help for educators that think the MCPS curriculum has been watered down or don’t think the schools in the neighborhoods they can afford are safe.

My neighbor here in Silver Spring did this. She took a good, but less than perfect position for her educational level at highly regarded private school in DC. Basically a free education for both her kids valued at about 100K per year in today's dollars. When her kids graduated, she left.

But she was likely paid $20-25k/year less than working in a public school with crappy retirement and health insurance benefits. And she had no union protection so likely couldn’t ever advocate for her own children because the school expected her to advocate for the full tuition paying kids.

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Anonymous wrote:MCEA is committed to the salary steps which keep experienced teachers from earning decent pay when transferring to MCPS. MCEA is a big part of the problem. They also keep sub pay low. I would not recommend voting for any MCEA endorsed BOE candidates (Yang, Coll, Rivera-Oven).

If you had witnessed any part of the public contract negotiations that took place before the pandemic, you would know that is completely untrue. MCEA submitted proposals based on a perceived professional salary of $100k and how long one would expect to get to that level. They also requested dramatic increases in substitute teacher pay. MCPS responded with some gobbledegook of a salary scale which actually included pay decreases for more experienced staff. When called on it, they withdrew the counter offer and did not submit a new one. Increasing teacher pay and planning time have been priorities in MCEA bargaining. Which you would know, again, if you had witnessed any part of the negotiations.

I’m not the PP. I read that as MCEA discourages experienced teachers from transferring in. I don’t think she was referring to existing MCPS teachers.

I posted above about being offered a position. I was offered a job that would pay me 25K less than the published step I should be on if they respected my experience. Instead, I went to a neighboring county that offered me $19K more than MCPS offered. Truthfully, I felt rather disrespected by MCPS. The offer was rather insulting considering my experience and qualifications. (I also received a private school offer that was more than MCPS’s offer.)

Name the school district. I don’t believe you. I have 20 years experience at even though I would enter at a higher step in PG, Howard and Fairfax County, it wasn’t step 20 and the pay wasn’t that much (if at all) higher than MCPS. Also, I spent 9 years working in a MoCo private school with $40k annual tuition and I was paid exactly what MCPS would have paid me at the REDUCED entry of step 8. When I first moved to Maryland in 2012, MCPS allowed external candidates with a Master’s to enter at step 12. Then it was reduced to step 10 and now it’s step 8.

MCPS step 18 Masters - 102K
MCPS step 8 Masters (top salary for transfer) - 73K
PGCPS step 18 Masters - 88K
HCPSS step 18 Masters - 91K
Fairfax County step 13 Masters - 85K - cap for transfers is 13 and still higher than MCPS


What’s there not to believe? So the numbers may have been a bit off because I’m using current salary scales, but the point remains. MCPS is not attractive to experienced teachers.

As for your private experience, private schools vary WIDELY.

Privates also offer incentives like children of staff can attend the school for free. For prestigious privates that cost $50K a year, that’s a tax free bonus of $150K per year for 3 kids. A big help for educators that think the MCPS curriculum has been watered down or don’t think the schools in the neighborhoods they can afford are safe.

My neighbor here in Silver Spring did this. She took a good, but less than perfect position for her educational level at highly regarded private school in DC. Basically a free education for both her kids valued at about 100K per year in today's dollars. When her kids graduated, she left.

But she was likely paid $20-25k/year less than working in a public school with crappy retirement and health insurance benefits. And she had no union protection so likely couldn’t ever advocate for her own children because the school expected her to advocate for the full tuition paying kids.

I think you missed the part about free tuition for their kids- for some that is well worth the lower salary and less benefits. If it isn't for you, stay in MCPS.

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This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

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Anonymous wrote:Some MCPS schools, including my DC's, seem to have too many teachers. It's sounding like the schools with the good principals don't have as many staffing issues?

Also, many former MCPS students have gone elsewhere due to the in-person school closures.

So would be curious which schools are the ones with all these unfilled positions.

Why does it seem that way to you?

Classrooms with only about 11 or so students

That seems really low, even for a Title 1 school

I'd be curious what grade- our Focus school was very imbalanced this year. Kindergarten classes all had 20+ students but some of the 1st-3nd grade classes were <15.

I've worked in a focus school a few years and seen it happen a few times. Usually the year started out balanced but a disproportionate number of kids left or transferred and then that teacher usually is the designated person to get new students transferring in. In another case there were kids with very high behavioral needs so it made sense to make that class smaller.

In my school we needed more kindergarten students but couldn't find a qualified kindergarten teacher. In some cases the applicants had multiple offers and chose schools closer to home

Teachers picking schools close to home is a big problem. There is a lack of affordable housing for moco workers including teachers. So if teachers can make the same salary in Germantown with a shorter commute, they will.

Most Germantown schools will also have smaller class sizes, because they have a higher FARMS rate.

I think the applicant chose a job in either Ann Arundel or Howard county

I teach in Germantown and enjoy the reverse commute from Bethesda. I have wonderful co-workers but most elementary schools in Germantown are far from easy. There's a ton of poverty, trauma, etc.

I've worked in both Bethesda and Germantown (and others). The culture of the Bethesda schools is insane, really, really hard to stomach, while the culture in a place like Germantown is normal. That makes a BIG difference in someone's day, and explains why schools in upper class areas have a harder time attracting and keeping teachers and paras. They're miserable places to work.

I’ve also worked in both, though more recently in Germantown. Both areas have their issues and both are having trouble retaining teachers. In Bethesda, the parent demands can just be too much. The daily emails and constant judgement is hard to stomach (just read DCUM for examples). In Germantown, I rarely have any interaction with parents. In fact, I am often struggling just to get calls returned. However, the student behavior is out of this world. School is expected to fix all of society’s issues which is impossible. The daily disrespect from the students is horrible.

So teachers are dealing with very different issues, but both are challenging and both are driving teachers away from teaching. I believe Rockville might be ideal, but who knows? All I know is that I used to love teaching and now hate it.

NP here. I began my career at an elementary school in Potomac and am in Germantown twenty years later. The difference between the two are night and day, and you are correct, the behavior is off the chain. I agree that one of the hardest parts is trying to meet all the needs of our students when the root cause of the challenges are societal issues that bleed into schools. I will love on my kids as much as possible while still holding firm boundaries but I can't help with all the crap that they deal with when they leave school each day. Part of me wonders if I would rather go back to snowplow parents over my current situation when Johnny tears my room apart daily but mom refuses to answer the phone.

Is there a happy medium anywhere??

Focus schools

I could see this- although I think the administration at the school is important too. Teachers talk, they know which principals are supportive and which aren't.

Um Focus schools are no walk in the park. I worked at one upcounty and the behaviors were far worse than what I experienced in my current Silver Spring Title 1 school. There's a crazy sense of entitlement upcounty where parents defend the complete nonsense their kids cause in class compared to my current school.

It’s well known that the behavior upcounty is off the charts bad.

The best are probably the schools with high % of Spanish speakers because those kids really want to learn.

But if you are looking for well behaved kids overall, MCPS is pretty bad. You’d need to head further south where discipline is still acceptable.

Thanks for the overgeneralizations.

Posts like that are always laughable.

The interesting thing is that no one will (can?) name a school where the teachers enjoy working and they can actually teach rather than play referee all day. Potomac/bethesda is entitled, Gaithersburg can’t behave, upcounty focus schools are entitled too, and boy oh boy don’t get started on Wheaton with BBC all the gang violence.

There hasn't been a single gang incident at any MCPS school in over a decade but keep telling yourself these things if it makes you feel better about your life choices.

They sure can't.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

It looks more like people telling other people what to realistically expect in the fall and other people resisting it and laughing it off.

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So why is there a shortage again? I got confused when I read they weren't hiring.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

It looks more like people telling other people what to realistically expect in the fall and other people resisting it and laughing it off.

Every year there is some turnover. Since enrollment has been going down (covered in other threads), they have been overstaffed. This belief that there's a shortage is based on the annual turnover; however, the county doesn't appear to think it's an issue since they aren't hiring.

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Anonymous wrote:Some MCPS schools, including my DC's, seem to have too many teachers. It's sounding like the schools with the good principals don't have as many staffing issues?

Also, many former MCPS students have gone elsewhere due to the in-person school closures.

So would be curious which schools are the ones with all these unfilled positions.

Why does it seem that way to you?

Classrooms with only about 11 or so students

That seems really low, even for a Title 1 school

I'd be curious what grade- our Focus school was very imbalanced this year. Kindergarten classes all had 20+ students but some of the 1st-3nd grade classes were <15.

I've worked in a focus school a few years and seen it happen a few times. Usually the year started out balanced but a disproportionate number of kids left or transferred and then that teacher usually is the designated person to get new students transferring in. In another case there were kids with very high behavioral needs so it made sense to make that class smaller.

In my school we needed more kindergarten students but couldn't find a qualified kindergarten teacher. In some cases the applicants had multiple offers and chose schools closer to home

Teachers picking schools close to home is a big problem. There is a lack of affordable housing for moco workers including teachers. So if teachers can make the same salary in Germantown with a shorter commute, they will.

Most Germantown schools will also have smaller class sizes, because they have a higher FARMS rate.

I think the applicant chose a job in either Ann Arundel or Howard county

I teach in Germantown and enjoy the reverse commute from Bethesda. I have wonderful co-workers but most elementary schools in Germantown are far from easy. There's a ton of poverty, trauma, etc.

I've worked in both Bethesda and Germantown (and others). The culture of the Bethesda schools is insane, really, really hard to stomach, while the culture in a place like Germantown is normal. That makes a BIG difference in someone's day, and explains why schools in upper class areas have a harder time attracting and keeping teachers and paras. They're miserable places to work.

I’ve also worked in both, though more recently in Germantown. Both areas have their issues and both are having trouble retaining teachers. In Bethesda, the parent demands can just be too much. The daily emails and constant judgement is hard to stomach (just read DCUM for examples). In Germantown, I rarely have any interaction with parents. In fact, I am often struggling just to get calls returned. However, the student behavior is out of this world. School is expected to fix all of society’s issues which is impossible. The daily disrespect from the students is horrible.

So teachers are dealing with very different issues, but both are challenging and both are driving teachers away from teaching. I believe Rockville might be ideal, but who knows? All I know is that I used to love teaching and now hate it.

NP here. I began my career at an elementary school in Potomac and am in Germantown twenty years later. The difference between the two are night and day, and you are correct, the behavior is off the chain. I agree that one of the hardest parts is trying to meet all the needs of our students when the root cause of the challenges are societal issues that bleed into schools. I will love on my kids as much as possible while still holding firm boundaries but I can't help with all the crap that they deal with when they leave school each day. Part of me wonders if I would rather go back to snowplow parents over my current situation when Johnny tears my room apart daily but mom refuses to answer the phone.

Is there a happy medium anywhere??

Focus schools

I could see this- although I think the administration at the school is important too. Teachers talk, they know which principals are supportive and which aren't.

Um Focus schools are no walk in the park. I worked at one upcounty and the behaviors were far worse than what I experienced in my current Silver Spring Title 1 school. There's a crazy sense of entitlement upcounty where parents defend the complete nonsense their kids cause in class compared to my current school.

It’s well known that the behavior upcounty is off the charts bad.

The best are probably the schools with high % of Spanish speakers because those kids really want to learn.

But if you are looking for well behaved kids overall, MCPS is pretty bad. You’d need to head further south where discipline is still acceptable.

Thanks for the overgeneralizations.

Posts like that are always laughable.

The interesting thing is that no one will (can?) name a school where the teachers enjoy working and they can actually teach rather than play referee all day. Potomac/bethesda is entitled, Gaithersburg can’t behave, upcounty focus schools are entitled too, and boy oh boy don’t get started on Wheaton with BBC all the gang violence.

There hasn't been a single gang incident at any MCPS school in over a decade but keep telling yourself these things if it makes you feel better about your life choices.

Of course there has. Who pays you to lie?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

It looks more like people telling other people what to realistically expect in the fall and other people resisting it and laughing it off.

Every year there is some turnover. Since enrollment has been going down (covered in other threads), they have been overstaffed. This belief that there's a shortage is based on the annual turnover; however, the county doesn't appear to think it's an issue since they aren't hiring.

I'm confused as to where people think they aren't hiring. ONE person in this thread said it was difficult for their friend's daughter to get hired (spoiler: then she WAS hired)...somehow everyone took that and ran with it as they are not hiring. They ARE. Jobs are being posted and those jobs disappear-because they've been filled. New jobs go up the next day. MCPS is absolutely hiring.

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Anonymous wrote:Some MCPS schools, including my DC's, seem to have too many teachers. It's sounding like the schools with the good principals don't have as many staffing issues?

Also, many former MCPS students have gone elsewhere due to the in-person school closures.

So would be curious which schools are the ones with all these unfilled positions.

Why does it seem that way to you?

Classrooms with only about 11 or so students

That seems really low, even for a Title 1 school

I'd be curious what grade- our Focus school was very imbalanced this year. Kindergarten classes all had 20+ students but some of the 1st-3nd grade classes were <15.

I've worked in a focus school a few years and seen it happen a few times. Usually the year started out balanced but a disproportionate number of kids left or transferred and then that teacher usually is the designated person to get new students transferring in. In another case there were kids with very high behavioral needs so it made sense to make that class smaller.

In my school we needed more kindergarten students but couldn't find a qualified kindergarten teacher. In some cases the applicants had multiple offers and chose schools closer to home

Teachers picking schools close to home is a big problem. There is a lack of affordable housing for moco workers including teachers. So if teachers can make the same salary in Germantown with a shorter commute, they will.

Most Germantown schools will also have smaller class sizes, because they have a higher FARMS rate.

I think the applicant chose a job in either Ann Arundel or Howard county

I teach in Germantown and enjoy the reverse commute from Bethesda. I have wonderful co-workers but most elementary schools in Germantown are far from easy. There's a ton of poverty, trauma, etc.

I've worked in both Bethesda and Germantown (and others). The culture of the Bethesda schools is insane, really, really hard to stomach, while the culture in a place like Germantown is normal. That makes a BIG difference in someone's day, and explains why schools in upper class areas have a harder time attracting and keeping teachers and paras. They're miserable places to work.

I’ve also worked in both, though more recently in Germantown. Both areas have their issues and both are having trouble retaining teachers. In Bethesda, the parent demands can just be too much. The daily emails and constant judgement is hard to stomach (just read DCUM for examples). In Germantown, I rarely have any interaction with parents. In fact, I am often struggling just to get calls returned. However, the student behavior is out of this world. School is expected to fix all of society’s issues which is impossible. The daily disrespect from the students is horrible.

So teachers are dealing with very different issues, but both are challenging and both are driving teachers away from teaching. I believe Rockville might be ideal, but who knows? All I know is that I used to love teaching and now hate it.

NP here. I began my career at an elementary school in Potomac and am in Germantown twenty years later. The difference between the two are night and day, and you are correct, the behavior is off the chain. I agree that one of the hardest parts is trying to meet all the needs of our students when the root cause of the challenges are societal issues that bleed into schools. I will love on my kids as much as possible while still holding firm boundaries but I can't help with all the crap that they deal with when they leave school each day. Part of me wonders if I would rather go back to snowplow parents over my current situation when Johnny tears my room apart daily but mom refuses to answer the phone.

Is there a happy medium anywhere??

Focus schools

I could see this- although I think the administration at the school is important too. Teachers talk, they know which principals are supportive and which aren't.

Um Focus schools are no walk in the park. I worked at one upcounty and the behaviors were far worse than what I experienced in my current Silver Spring Title 1 school. There's a crazy sense of entitlement upcounty where parents defend the complete nonsense their kids cause in class compared to my current school.

It’s well known that the behavior upcounty is off the charts bad.

The best are probably the schools with high % of Spanish speakers because those kids really want to learn.

But if you are looking for well behaved kids overall, MCPS is pretty bad. You’d need to head further south where discipline is still acceptable.

Thanks for the overgeneralizations.

Posts like that are always laughable.

The interesting thing is that no one will (can?) name a school where the teachers enjoy working and they can actually teach rather than play referee all day. Potomac/bethesda is entitled, Gaithersburg can’t behave, upcounty focus schools are entitled too, and boy oh boy don’t get started on Wheaton with BBC all the gang violence.

There hasn't been a single gang incident at any MCPS school in over a decade but keep telling yourself these things if it makes you feel better about your life choices.

Of course there has. Who pays you to lie?

No there hasn't but please feel free to post links to news. Last time someone did they provided a story about an incident in TX which is great but not MCPS. Another posted a story about some murder in Bethesda, but again that wasn't related to MCPS. They couldn't produce a single story for any MCPS school involving gangs.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

It looks more like people telling other people what to realistically expect in the fall and other people resisting it and laughing it off.

Every year there is some turnover. Since enrollment has been going down (covered in other threads), they have been overstaffed. This belief that there's a shortage is based on the annual turnover; however, the county doesn't appear to think it's an issue since they aren't hiring.

I'm confused as to where people think they aren't hiring. ONE person in this thread said it was difficult for their friend's daughter to get hired (spoiler: then she WAS hired)...somehow everyone took that and ran with it as they are not hiring. They ARE. Jobs are being posted and those jobs disappear-because they've been filled. New jobs go up the next day. MCPS is absolutely hiring.

Really the PP stated a well-qualified applicant was turned away because they weren't hiring. I've been following this thread despite the lack of any tangible information and didn't see where the PP said their friend's daughter got hired. Which page is that on?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

It looks more like people telling other people what to realistically expect in the fall and other people resisting it and laughing it off.

Every year there is some turnover. Since enrollment has been going down (covered in other threads), they have been overstaffed. This belief that there's a shortage is based on the annual turnover; however, the county doesn't appear to think it's an issue since they aren't hiring.

I'm confused as to where people think they aren't hiring. ONE person in this thread said it was difficult for their friend's daughter to get hired (spoiler: then she WAS hired)...somehow everyone took that and ran with it as they are not hiring. They ARE. Jobs are being posted and those jobs disappear-because they've been filled. New jobs go up the next day. MCPS is absolutely hiring.

Really the PP stated a well-qualified applicant was turned away because they weren't hiring. I've been following this thread despite the lack of any tangible information and didn't see where the PP said their friend's daughter got hired. Which page is that on?

Anecdote v. hundreds of job listings. OK.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

It looks more like people telling other people what to realistically expect in the fall and other people resisting it and laughing it off.

Every year there is some turnover. Since enrollment has been going down (covered in other threads), they have been overstaffed. This belief that there's a shortage is based on the annual turnover; however, the county doesn't appear to think it's an issue since they aren't hiring.

I'm confused as to where people think they aren't hiring. ONE person in this thread said it was difficult for their friend's daughter to get hired (spoiler: then she WAS hired)...somehow everyone took that and ran with it as they are not hiring. They ARE. Jobs are being posted and those jobs disappear-because they've been filled. New jobs go up the next day. MCPS is absolutely hiring.

Really the PP stated a well-qualified applicant was turned away because they weren't hiring. I've been following this thread despite the lack of any tangible information and didn't see where the PP said their friend's daughter got hired. Which page is that on?

DP. It's on page 3, 06/21/2022 09:42

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Anonymous wrote:This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

It looks more like people telling other people what to realistically expect in the fall and other people resisting it and laughing it off.

Every year there is some turnover. Since enrollment has been going down (covered in other threads), they have been overstaffed. This belief that there's a shortage is based on the annual turnover; however, the county doesn't appear to think it's an issue since they aren't hiring.

I'm confused as to where people think they aren't hiring. ONE person in this thread said it was difficult for their friend's daughter to get hired (spoiler: then she WAS hired)...somehow everyone took that and ran with it as they are not hiring. They ARE. Jobs are being posted and those jobs disappear-because they've been filled. New jobs go up the next day. MCPS is absolutely hiring.

Really the PP stated a well-qualified applicant was turned away because they weren't hiring. I've been following this thread despite the lack of any tangible information and didn't see where the PP said their friend's daughter got hired. Which page is that on?

DP. It's on page 3, 06/21/2022 09:42

The funniest part is, it was all in ONE post. People are sure quick to jump to outrage when they apparently can't even read.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread looks more like MCPS PR priming the parents in this area for a soft landing when they learn about MCPS failure to meet the needs of all students. Just an observation

It looks more like people telling other people what to realistically expect in the fall and other people resisting it and laughing it off.

Every year there is some turnover. Since enrollment has been going down (covered in other threads), they have been overstaffed. This belief that there's a shortage is based on the annual turnover; however, the county doesn't appear to think it's an issue since they aren't hiring.

I'm confused as to where people think they aren't hiring. ONE person in this thread said it was difficult for their friend's daughter to get hired (spoiler: then she WAS hired)...somehow everyone took that and ran with it as they are not hiring. They ARE. Jobs are being posted and those jobs disappear-because they've been filled. New jobs go up the next day. MCPS is absolutely hiring.

Really the PP stated a well-qualified applicant was turned away because they weren't hiring. I've been following this thread despite the lack of any tangible information and didn't see where the PP said their friend's daughter got hired. Which page is that on?

Anecdote v. hundreds of job listings. OK.

Lots of companies post listings but aren't really hiring.