| Yes, neo-Nazis are have so much popular support in Ukraine that they elected a Jewish president. Makes total sense, in the mind of a propagandist. |
Russia, Ukraine, Poland, etc. are well known to have overt racism. Their demographics are very white. Jews tend to be white, fwiw. They are treated better than the black Nigerians trying to flee Ukraine. |
Or we didn't hear as much about civilian casualties? come on, you don't invade a country and think you only killed the bad people? |
I knew one of you simpletons would bring this up. The Ukrainian people had a choice between keeping a well-hated billionaire, Poroshenko, who had imposed a series of extremely unpopular reforms VERSUS casting a backlash vote in favor of a famous actor who promised to undo all of Poroshenko’s reforms. Choosing Zelensky was not an endorsement of Jewishness or a reflection of some cosmopolitan urge on the part of the people. It was literally the only way to dislodge Poroshenko and literally every commentator at the time understood Zelensky’s win as a backlash vote. Zelensky himself recognized that. Ukraine is a country in which only one president has ever won reelection. They literally throw the president out after one term as a matter of habit. The degree to which Neo-Nazis have a hold on the country is demonstrated by Zelensky’s refusal to challenge them. The Azov brigade is just the most famous of hundreds of white supremacist militias that terrorize Ukraine’s streets, beating Jews, foreign students, gays and leftist protesters. Neo-Nazis fill the armed forces to such a degree that, if Zelensky does not play nice with them, they will purge him. I did all your googling for you in my first post, so you get on Google now and confirm all this for yourself. You would know all this if you had ever heard of Ukraine before this war started a few days ago. People who cannot even find Ukraine on a map or spell Zelensky are now opining as foreign relations experts. Typical. |
5. Ukraine, despite backwards and nasty views on race, diversity etc etc being much more prevalent there than they are in the West, has caused immeasurably fewer atrocities against and harm to POCs currently and in the past than, first and foremost, the United States, but also UK, France and others. So framing Ukraine being attacked as 'just white supremacists' by Americans is rich. |
Feel free not to amend my post with propaganda. Every single thing you wrote in your post is a matter of opinion and unprovable. How does one even begin to measure “atrocities against and harm to POC”? What does that gobbledygook even mean? Everything I wrote in my post is demonstrable and factual. See the difference? I am sure you do not. None so blind as those who will not see. Good day. |
Every country with white people has a neo-Nazi problem. That’s like Putin invading the US on the groups of “purging neo-Nazis”. Just a phony pretext. The fact that Putin sent in the Wagner Group - which itself has strong neo-Nazi ties and it’s own leader has SS tattoos - to try the assassinate the Jewish Ukrainian prime minister is the tippy top height of dark irony. All while spouting that they will “de-Nazify” the Ukraine. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. |
Re: Ukraine’s history of racism - the country’s demographics speaks volumes. Simply put: they haven’t had a sizable demographic that wasn’t white until recent decades. Ditto for neighboring countries. Poland is overwhelmingly white and Catholic. In recent years, Poland has had white nationalists marching in large numbers. |
Surely, if you can write all of this, then you can read. Did you miss the part of my previous post in which I literally stated that Russia, too, has a white supremacist problem and Putin is a monster? Of course a rapacious monster’s stated reasons for attacking are wholly pretextual. Duh! It’s almost as if, as I have said, there are bad actors on both sides of this equation and one bad actor (Russia) is the aggressor who poses a greater threat to the West. |
Targeting civilians is not the same thing as collateral civilian casualties, which the US tries to avoid. |
I don’t get this take. Did you expect them to be racially diverse? Should Africans have emigrated there while they were being brutalized by Stalin? Are you mad they didn’t have black slaves back in the 1800s? Why do you expect a European country to be racially diverse? |
| What country in the world does not have some element of fanatical hate? It's a fundamental problem with humans. That doesn't mean we can use that as an excuse to start wars. |
This thread is funny. You people have gone from denying that Ukraine has a Neo-Nazi problem to justifying it now that the facts have been spelled out with evidence you can’t dispute. At least pretend to have some sense of morals and decency. “Er, um, any allegation that Neo-Nazis have a strong presence in Ukraine is a Russian disinformation talking point from the pits of hell…but also this Neo-Nazi problem Ukraine doesn’t have is completely justified!” 🤡 🤡 🤡 |
The US has a neo-Nazi problem. Should it be invaded by Canada? |
? I think it’s weird that Americans are saying the USA is worse than Ukraine and other similarly situated countries when it comes to race based on our history of slavery. The reality is that Ukraine, Poland, Russia, etc. have rather overt racism today that is far worse than what we have in the US. Think: 60k white nationalists marching in a Polish parade. Google it. The fact that their demographics are overwhelmingly white should indicate that their immigration policies are aimed at keeping their country white. FYI: Nordic countries similarly have immigration policies aimed at keeping their demographics white (and Christian). |