Cheh's Ward 3 ANC Gerrymandering

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Phil Mendelson releases a revised map at 10:20 on a Friday night. A map that doesn't conform to the law, nor the process. Why? To cater to his 30 years ago base of Cleveland Park NIMBYs.

And then....Eric Goulet, the supposed endorsed candidate of the Chamber of Commerce and businesses...goes and supports it. So I guess this is what we can expect from Goulet? 11th hour meddling that caters to the highly privileged?

How hard is it for Goulet to not write tweets that make him look like a complete ass. Every single one is so bad that I could swear that they were from a parody account made to mock local politicians who take themselves and their feelings far too seriously.

Your complaints are seriously over board. I think you need to cope.

What is overboard is a candidate thinking that a last minute, unvetted and illegal change to the redistricting maps is both thoughtful and transparent.

Why are you defending it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Phil Mendelson releases a revised map at 10:20 on a Friday night. A map that doesn't conform to the law, nor the process. Why? To cater to his 30 years ago base of Cleveland Park NIMBYs.

And then....Eric Goulet, the supposed endorsed candidate of the Chamber of Commerce and businesses...goes and supports it. So I guess this is what we can expect from Goulet? 11th hour meddling that caters to the highly privileged?

How hard is it for Goulet to not write tweets that make him look like a complete ass. Every single one is so bad that I could swear that they were from a parody account made to mock local politicians who take themselves and their feelings far too seriously.

Your complaints are seriously over board. I think you need to cope.

What is overboard is a candidate thinking that a last minute, unvetted and illegal change to the redistricting maps is both thoughtful and transparent.

Why are you defending it?

Yes. You need to get some perspective. It sounds like you are just whining because you cannot get your way and don’t like compromises.

Here’s a tip: Goulet doesn’t sound like a parody for supporting a compromise. You sound ridiculous for making it sound like Mendelson is commuting human rights abuses and Goulet is applauding it. I recommend getting a grip.

[Anonymous]

Watching the Cleveland Park boomers flip out over redistricting — and then say that an 11th hour retooling that caters to their complaints by ignoring the input of the rest of the Ward gathered through a months-long transparent process is somehow “democracy is action” is quite rich. It’s also extremely on brand for CP.

For Mendelson et al to give into these antics is blatant electioneering and bastardized a process that is supposed to reapportion districts without regard for political purposes or with certain commissioners in mind. Multiple SMDs don’t comply with the population requirements of redistricting, and the map doesn’t even attempt to hide its purpose: to consolidate power centering around Cleveland Park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Phil Mendelson releases a revised map at 10:20 on a Friday night. A map that doesn't conform to the law, nor the process. Why? To cater to his 30 years ago base of Cleveland Park NIMBYs.

And then....Eric Goulet, the supposed endorsed candidate of the Chamber of Commerce and businesses...goes and supports it. So I guess this is what we can expect from Goulet? 11th hour meddling that caters to the highly privileged?

How hard is it for Goulet to not write tweets that make him look like a complete ass. Every single one is so bad that I could swear that they were from a parody account made to mock local politicians who take themselves and their feelings far too seriously.

Your complaints are seriously over board. I think you need to cope.

What is overboard is a candidate thinking that a last minute, unvetted and illegal change to the redistricting maps is both thoughtful and transparent.

Why are you defending it?

Yes. You need to get some perspective. It sounds like you are just whining because you cannot get your way and don’t like compromises.

Here’s a tip: Goulet doesn’t sound like a parody for supporting a compromise. You sound ridiculous for making it sound like Mendelson is commuting human rights abuses and Goulet is applauding it. I recommend getting a grip.

Either you are Goulet or have your head so far up his ass you've forgotten how people behave in the real world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watching the Cleveland Park boomers flip out over redistricting — and then say that an 11th hour retooling that caters to their complaints by ignoring the input of the rest of the Ward gathered through a months-long transparent process is somehow “democracy is action” is quite rich. It’s also extremely on brand for CP.

For Mendelson et al to give into these antics is blatant electioneering and bastardized a process that is supposed to reapportion districts without regard for political purposes or with certain commissioners in mind. Multiple SMDs don’t comply with the population requirements of redistricting, and the map doesn’t even attempt to hide its purpose: to consolidate power centering around Cleveland Park.

Who’s flipping out exactly? I see this thread and there are people like you completely beside themselves that a compromise is being struck. Sorry that you don’t understand politics. And yes, you do need to chill out because you sound ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Phil Mendelson releases a revised map at 10:20 on a Friday night. A map that doesn't conform to the law, nor the process. Why? To cater to his 30 years ago base of Cleveland Park NIMBYs.

And then....Eric Goulet, the supposed endorsed candidate of the Chamber of Commerce and businesses...goes and supports it. So I guess this is what we can expect from Goulet? 11th hour meddling that caters to the highly privileged?

How hard is it for Goulet to not write tweets that make him look like a complete ass. Every single one is so bad that I could swear that they were from a parody account made to mock local politicians who take themselves and their feelings far too seriously.

Your complaints are seriously over board. I think you need to cope.

What is overboard is a candidate thinking that a last minute, unvetted and illegal change to the redistricting maps is both thoughtful and transparent.

Why are you defending it?

Yes. You need to get some perspective. It sounds like you are just whining because you cannot get your way and don’t like compromises.

Here’s a tip: Goulet doesn’t sound like a parody for supporting a compromise. You sound ridiculous for making it sound like Mendelson is commuting human rights abuses and Goulet is applauding it. I recommend getting a grip.

Mendelson is bypassing 5 months of work by hundreds of volunteers to offer a map only supported by Cleveland Park NIMBYs. The map has several single member districts that are too large and thus are illegal according to the redistricting statue. If anyone is whining about not getting their way, it the old guard in Cleveland Park who went to Mendelson to get this new map, and Goulet is fully supporting it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watching the Cleveland Park boomers flip out over redistricting — and then say that an 11th hour retooling that caters to their complaints by ignoring the input of the rest of the Ward gathered through a months-long transparent process is somehow “democracy is action” is quite rich. It’s also extremely on brand for CP.

For Mendelson et al to give into these antics is blatant electioneering and bastardized a process that is supposed to reapportion districts without regard for political purposes or with certain commissioners in mind. Multiple SMDs don’t comply with the population requirements of redistricting, and the map doesn’t even attempt to hide its purpose: to consolidate power centering around Cleveland Park.

Who’s flipping out exactly? I see this thread and there are people like you completely beside themselves that a compromise is being struck. Sorry that you don’t understand politics. And yes, you do need to chill out because you sound ridiculous.

The compromise is the map created by Councilmember Silverman. The map offered by Mendelson is both illegal and makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Phil Mendelson releases a revised map at 10:20 on a Friday night. A map that doesn't conform to the law, nor the process. Why? To cater to his 30 years ago base of Cleveland Park NIMBYs.

And then....Eric Goulet, the supposed endorsed candidate of the Chamber of Commerce and businesses...goes and supports it. So I guess this is what we can expect from Goulet? 11th hour meddling that caters to the highly privileged?

How hard is it for Goulet to not write tweets that make him look like a complete ass. Every single one is so bad that I could swear that they were from a parody account made to mock local politicians who take themselves and their feelings far too seriously.

Your complaints are seriously over board. I think you need to cope.

What is overboard is a candidate thinking that a last minute, unvetted and illegal change to the redistricting maps is both thoughtful and transparent.

Why are you defending it?

Yes. You need to get some perspective. It sounds like you are just whining because you cannot get your way and don’t like compromises.

Here’s a tip: Goulet doesn’t sound like a parody for supporting a compromise. You sound ridiculous for making it sound like Mendelson is commuting human rights abuses and Goulet is applauding it. I recommend getting a grip.

Mendelson is bypassing 5 months of work by hundreds of volunteers to offer a map only supported by Cleveland Park NIMBYs. The map has several single member districts that are too large and thus are illegal according to the redistricting statue. If anyone is whining about not getting their way, it the old guard in Cleveland Park who went to Mendelson to get this new map, and Goulet is fully supporting it.

This is what I’m talking about. You didn’t get your way and don’t like the compromise so you whine. You don’t seem to understand politics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watching the Cleveland Park boomers flip out over redistricting — and then say that an 11th hour retooling that caters to their complaints by ignoring the input of the rest of the Ward gathered through a months-long transparent process is somehow “democracy is action” is quite rich. It’s also extremely on brand for CP.

For Mendelson et al to give into these antics is blatant electioneering and bastardized a process that is supposed to reapportion districts without regard for political purposes or with certain commissioners in mind. Multiple SMDs don’t comply with the population requirements of redistricting, and the map doesn’t even attempt to hide its purpose: to consolidate power centering around Cleveland Park.

Who’s flipping out exactly? I see this thread and there are people like you completely beside themselves that a compromise is being struck. Sorry that you don’t understand politics. And yes, you do need to chill out because you sound ridiculous.

The compromise is the map created by Councilmember Silverman. The map offered by Mendelson is both illegal and makes no sense.

An ally of yours proposed a “compromise” without any buy-in from the stakeholders. Doesn’t sound like a process that would result in plausibly negotiated outcome.

[Anonymous]

NP: What is this really about? What are the issues that some in CP feel like they wouldn't be able to get their way on if they were put in one ANC versus another?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Phil Mendelson releases a revised map at 10:20 on a Friday night. A map that doesn't conform to the law, nor the process. Why? To cater to his 30 years ago base of Cleveland Park NIMBYs.

And then....Eric Goulet, the supposed endorsed candidate of the Chamber of Commerce and businesses...goes and supports it. So I guess this is what we can expect from Goulet? 11th hour meddling that caters to the highly privileged?

How hard is it for Goulet to not write tweets that make him look like a complete ass. Every single one is so bad that I could swear that they were from a parody account made to mock local politicians who take themselves and their feelings far too seriously.

Your complaints are seriously over board. I think you need to cope.

What is overboard is a candidate thinking that a last minute, unvetted and illegal change to the redistricting maps is both thoughtful and transparent.

Why are you defending it?

Yes. You need to get some perspective. It sounds like you are just whining because you cannot get your way and don’t like compromises.

Here’s a tip: Goulet doesn’t sound like a parody for supporting a compromise. You sound ridiculous for making it sound like Mendelson is commuting human rights abuses and Goulet is applauding it. I recommend getting a grip.

Mendelson is bypassing 5 months of work by hundreds of volunteers to offer a map only supported by Cleveland Park NIMBYs. The map has several single member districts that are too large and thus are illegal according to the redistricting statue. If anyone is whining about not getting their way, it the old guard in Cleveland Park who went to Mendelson to get this new map, and Goulet is fully supporting it.

This is what I’m talking about. You didn’t get your way and don’t like the compromise so you whine. You don’t seem to understand politics.

Step 1: the process that resulted in the map submitted to the Council
Step 2: the Map proposed by the Council, which was a compromise from the one submitted by the Task Force
Step 3: Cleveland Park NIMBYs complained to Mendelson
Step 4: Mendelson proposes a new map that is illegal

Who are the whiners?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP: What is this really about? What are the issues that some in CP feel like they wouldn't be able to get their way on if they were put in one ANC versus another?

It started with Cheh working through a process many considered rigged where the outcome was designed to limit representation of SF homeowners.

The people who politically benefit and their ideological comrades are now crying foul that those who would have had their representation dimished have been successfully able to restore some of it through a compromise.

This is how politics works and it people don’t understand it and it makes them upset.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Phil Mendelson releases a revised map at 10:20 on a Friday night. A map that doesn't conform to the law, nor the process. Why? To cater to his 30 years ago base of Cleveland Park NIMBYs.

And then....Eric Goulet, the supposed endorsed candidate of the Chamber of Commerce and businesses...goes and supports it. So I guess this is what we can expect from Goulet? 11th hour meddling that caters to the highly privileged?

How hard is it for Goulet to not write tweets that make him look like a complete ass. Every single one is so bad that I could swear that they were from a parody account made to mock local politicians who take themselves and their feelings far too seriously.

Your complaints are seriously over board. I think you need to cope.

What is overboard is a candidate thinking that a last minute, unvetted and illegal change to the redistricting maps is both thoughtful and transparent.

Why are you defending it?

Yes. You need to get some perspective. It sounds like you are just whining because you cannot get your way and don’t like compromises.

Here’s a tip: Goulet doesn’t sound like a parody for supporting a compromise. You sound ridiculous for making it sound like Mendelson is commuting human rights abuses and Goulet is applauding it. I recommend getting a grip.

Mendelson is bypassing 5 months of work by hundreds of volunteers to offer a map only supported by Cleveland Park NIMBYs. The map has several single member districts that are too large and thus are illegal according to the redistricting statue. If anyone is whining about not getting their way, it the old guard in Cleveland Park who went to Mendelson to get this new map, and Goulet is fully supporting it.

This is what I’m talking about. You didn’t get your way and don’t like the compromise so you whine. You don’t seem to understand politics.

Step 1: the process that resulted in the map submitted to the Council
Step 2: the Map proposed by the Council, which was a compromise from the one submitted by the Task Force
Step 3: Cleveland Park NIMBYs complained to Mendelson
Step 4: Mendelson proposes a new map that is illegal

Who are the whiners?

The whiner is you and you are still doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP: What is this really about? What are the issues that some in CP feel like they wouldn't be able to get their way on if they were put in one ANC versus another?

It started with Cheh working through a process many considered rigged where the outcome was designed to limit representation of SF homeowners.

The people who politically benefit and their ideological comrades are now crying foul that those who would have had their representation dimished have been successfully able to restore some of it through a compromise.

This is how politics works and it people don’t understand it and it makes them upset.

But what are the actual issues this affects?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP: What is this really about? What are the issues that some in CP feel like they wouldn't be able to get their way on if they were put in one ANC versus another?

It started with Cheh working through a process many considered rigged where the outcome was designed to limit representation of SF homeowners.

The people who politically benefit and their ideological comrades are now crying foul that those who would have had their representation dimished have been successfully able to restore some of it through a compromise.

This is how politics works and it people don’t understand it and it makes them upset.

But what are the actual issues this affects?

It’s about representation on ANCs. The “issues” are those of relevance to ANCs.