Explain wealthy men and mail order brides

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Anonymous wrote:Up until 10 years ago it made sense for a lot of classy educated beautiful women from Eastern Europe and the former Soviet republics to marry into the west. Now, not so much. The economies have developed and they have much easier access to foreign countries through visas. There are still opportunities for 40 year old guys to marry well particularly if they are willing to marry someone who already has a child/divorced. But anyone older than that will have a lot more trouble. Single beautiful women in those countries have a lot of options. There are plenty of men. However, men age and die much more quickly due to alcoholism and other issues so there is definitely a gender imbalance over age 50. Not so much at younger ages.

'Their economies have developed'
-says who?

Let's see , which of these eastern European countries have flourishing economies ? Not Russia, not Ukraine, not Bielorussia .most European countries not part of the eruppean union have terrible economies .

They are good enough to have a comfortable life, especially in urban centers. I mean SOMEONE is keeping afloat the mortgage market in Moscow and St. Petersburg. SOMEONE is keeping vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business.

Give me a break !! With the exception of a few politically connected people in Moscow, the rest of the Russians are toiling away in poverty . Before the arrival of Russians, who use to keep vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business ? Here's the truth ; those countries were already hotbeds of tourism while the Russian were singing the praising of the Communist leader [i] du jour.

I love how American white men do their own mental gymnastics without any data. Keep dreaming that EE or Asian women want a fat, balding American man making 50K/year. They can get a much wealthier guy in their own country, 100% thinner and taller too in EE. Russians own a ton of real estate in London and Dubai and the poverty rate in Russia is well below the one in the USA. In US, boomers have insane alcohol and drug abuse problems. Boomers consume crystal meth at rates TRIPLE those of Millennials, Gen Xs and Zers. 10% of boomers abuse sedatives and 17% binge drink frequently. So yes, if these women are marrying an older American guy, there is a high probability he's a fat old drunk. The US averages are lower simply because Millennials and Zers barely drink and use drugs.
I'm in an affluent pocket in VA and I see a LOT of white American women with successful Asian husbands. My dentist is Korean and his wife is white. My friend's daughter (we're both EE from the same country) is marrying a Chinese guy who is finishing med school. I'm near a big medical center, my family is working in healthcare, and ALL the Indian surgeons have white wives. None of them are fat, like 74% of the Caucasian men BTW, and 100% of them are very successful. If you look at the Pew data, more and more white women are marring Asian men, especially the college educated one. I think everyone is realizing how much of a loser the average white guy is here.

If you were paying attention which by your comments it appears you're not , the thread is about wealthy men . However , anyone making $50k/yr in this country has it better than the vast majority of Russians.

Probably true if you compare averages between the countries but not in relation to big cities. Women from large cities in Russia are not "needy" even by the US standards. Many own apartments with no mortgages, and real estate in big cities is same value as in the US big cities, if not not expensive. I still own 2 apartments in Moscow which I use for travel and to rent out, and can go back anytime. This is around $0.5mm in net equity that I owed since age 23, vs average US home equity by retirement of around $150K.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My former neighbor was married to a mail order bride. He was a nice guy, worked in IT. In his case, the mail order thing completely backfired on him. lol. She was smart as a whip, and if she was ever subservient, she stopped long ago. She was mean as a snake, too. One time, she ripped him a new one on their front yard because he hadn’t gotten dinner started. The daughter spoke to the dad the same way the wife did.

Who knows, maybe he's happy in his own way? A shy IT guy could have stayed single forever, not being a "catch" for career oriented US born women. He married someone who took the lead and gave him some direction and structure, they had a child and smilingly a lasting marriage.

maybe he likes being a "sub".

I knew a few guys who had mail order brides, some from Asia, some from EE.

I only knew a few long enough to know how the marriage ended

Russian bride - she walked as soon as she got her green card. Poor guy.
Asian bride - divorced abusive husband once she got her green card

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Up until 10 years ago it made sense for a lot of classy educated beautiful women from Eastern Europe and the former Soviet republics to marry into the west. Now, not so much. The economies have developed and they have much easier access to foreign countries through visas. There are still opportunities for 40 year old guys to marry well particularly if they are willing to marry someone who already has a child/divorced. But anyone older than that will have a lot more trouble. Single beautiful women in those countries have a lot of options. There are plenty of men. However, men age and die much more quickly due to alcoholism and other issues so there is definitely a gender imbalance over age 50. Not so much at younger ages.

'Their economies have developed'
-says who?

Let's see , which of these eastern European countries have flourishing economies ? Not Russia, not Ukraine, not Bielorussia .most European countries not part of the eruppean union have terrible economies .

They are good enough to have a comfortable life, especially in urban centers. I mean SOMEONE is keeping afloat the mortgage market in Moscow and St. Petersburg. SOMEONE is keeping vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business.

Give me a break !! With the exception of a few politically connected people in Moscow, the rest of the Russians are toiling away in poverty . Before the arrival of Russians, who use to keep vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business ? Here's the truth ; those countries were already hotbeds of tourism while the Russian were singing the praising of the Communist leader [i] du jour.

I love how American white men do their own mental gymnastics without any data. Keep dreaming that EE or Asian women want a fat, balding American man making 50K/year. They can get a much wealthier guy in their own country, 100% thinner and taller too in EE. Russians own a ton of real estate in London and Dubai and the poverty rate in Russia is well below the one in the USA. In US, boomers have insane alcohol and drug abuse problems. Boomers consume crystal meth at rates TRIPLE those of Millennials, Gen Xs and Zers. 10% of boomers abuse sedatives and 17% binge drink frequently. So yes, if these women are marrying an older American guy, there is a high probability he's a fat old drunk. The US averages are lower simply because Millennials and Zers barely drink and use drugs.
I'm in an affluent pocket in VA and I see a LOT of white American women with successful Asian husbands. My dentist is Korean and his wife is white. My friend's daughter (we're both EE from the same country) is marrying a Chinese guy who is finishing med school. I'm near a big medical center, my family is working in healthcare, and ALL the Indian surgeons have white wives. None of them are fat, like 74% of the Caucasian men BTW, and 100% of them are very successful. If you look at the Pew data, more and more white women are marring Asian men, especially the college educated one. I think everyone is realizing how much of a loser the average white guy is here.

If you were paying attention which by your comments it appears you're not , the thread is about wealthy men . However , anyone making $50k/yr in this country has it better than the vast majority of Russians.

Probably true if you compare averages between the countries but not in relation to big cities. Women from large cities in Russia are not "needy" even by the US standards. Many own apartments with no mortgages, and real estate in big cities is same value as in the US big cities, if not not expensive. I still own 2 apartments in Moscow which I use for travel and to rent out, and can go back anytime. This is around $0.5mm in net equity that I owed since age 23, vs average US home equity by retirement of around $150K.

You kept talking about large cities as if outside of Moscow there is anything of value going on elsewhere in Russia. Even in Moscow, it's a tiny fraction of kremlin-connected people who , thanks to their embezzlement and corruption live large. Stop trying to act like some of us aren't knowledgeable about Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:Up until 10 years ago it made sense for a lot of classy educated beautiful women from Eastern Europe and the former Soviet republics to marry into the west. Now, not so much. The economies have developed and they have much easier access to foreign countries through visas. There are still opportunities for 40 year old guys to marry well particularly if they are willing to marry someone who already has a child/divorced. But anyone older than that will have a lot more trouble. Single beautiful women in those countries have a lot of options. There are plenty of men. However, men age and die much more quickly due to alcoholism and other issues so there is definitely a gender imbalance over age 50. Not so much at younger ages.

'Their economies have developed'
-says who?

Let's see , which of these eastern European countries have flourishing economies ? Not Russia, not Ukraine, not Bielorussia .most European countries not part of the eruppean union have terrible economies .

They are good enough to have a comfortable life, especially in urban centers. I mean SOMEONE is keeping afloat the mortgage market in Moscow and St. Petersburg. SOMEONE is keeping vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business.

Give me a break !! With the exception of a few politically connected people in Moscow, the rest of the Russians are toiling away in poverty . Before the arrival of Russians, who use to keep vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business ? Here's the truth ; those countries were already hotbeds of tourism while the Russian were singing the praising of the Communist leader [i] du jour.

I love how American white men do their own mental gymnastics without any data. Keep dreaming that EE or Asian women want a fat, balding American man making 50K/year. They can get a much wealthier guy in their own country, 100% thinner and taller too in EE. Russians own a ton of real estate in London and Dubai and the poverty rate in Russia is well below the one in the USA. In US, boomers have insane alcohol and drug abuse problems. Boomers consume crystal meth at rates TRIPLE those of Millennials, Gen Xs and Zers. 10% of boomers abuse sedatives and 17% binge drink frequently. So yes, if these women are marrying an older American guy, there is a high probability he's a fat old drunk. The US averages are lower simply because Millennials and Zers barely drink and use drugs.
I'm in an affluent pocket in VA and I see a LOT of white American women with successful Asian husbands. My dentist is Korean and his wife is white. My friend's daughter (we're both EE from the same country) is marrying a Chinese guy who is finishing med school. I'm near a big medical center, my family is working in healthcare, and ALL the Indian surgeons have white wives. None of them are fat, like 74% of the Caucasian men BTW, and 100% of them are very successful. If you look at the Pew data, more and more white women are marring Asian men, especially the college educated one. I think everyone is realizing how much of a loser the average white guy is here.

If you were paying attention which by your comments it appears you're not , the thread is about wealthy men . However , anyone making $50k/yr in this country has it better than the vast majority of Russians.

Probably true if you compare averages between the countries but not in relation to big cities. Women from large cities in Russia are not "needy" even by the US standards. Many own apartments with no mortgages, and real estate in big cities is same value as in the US big cities, if not not expensive. I still own 2 apartments in Moscow which I use for travel and to rent out, and can go back anytime. This is around $0.5mm in net equity that I owed since age 23, vs average US home equity by retirement of around $150K.

You kept talking about large cities as if outside of Moscow there is anything of value going on elsewhere in Russia. Even in Moscow, it's a tiny fraction of kremlin-connected people who , thanks to their embezzlement and corruption live large. Stop trying to act like some of us aren't knowledgeable about Russia.

Of course provincial Russia on average is worse than US. But girls from villages or small towns are not typically on these international websites. In large cities upper middle class is pretty vast. My family wasn’t connected to Kremlin and we had several properties since Soviet times. If you are familiar with historical events, families were allowed to “privatize” state-owned apartments in early 1990s. We got one via privatization, another one as purchased in early 2000s from savings (had a small IT business). Also had a “dacha” with lake access near Moscow. It’s a typical middle class situation in these cities

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Anonymous wrote:Up until 10 years ago it made sense for a lot of classy educated beautiful women from Eastern Europe and the former Soviet republics to marry into the west. Now, not so much. The economies have developed and they have much easier access to foreign countries through visas. There are still opportunities for 40 year old guys to marry well particularly if they are willing to marry someone who already has a child/divorced. But anyone older than that will have a lot more trouble. Single beautiful women in those countries have a lot of options. There are plenty of men. However, men age and die much more quickly due to alcoholism and other issues so there is definitely a gender imbalance over age 50. Not so much at younger ages.

'Their economies have developed'
-says who?

Let's see , which of these eastern European countries have flourishing economies ? Not Russia, not Ukraine, not Bielorussia .most European countries not part of the eruppean union have terrible economies .

They are good enough to have a comfortable life, especially in urban centers. I mean SOMEONE is keeping afloat the mortgage market in Moscow and St. Petersburg. SOMEONE is keeping vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business.

Give me a break !! With the exception of a few politically connected people in Moscow, the rest of the Russians are toiling away in poverty . Before the arrival of Russians, who use to keep vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business ? Here's the truth ; those countries were already hotbeds of tourism while the Russian were singing the praising of the Communist leader [i] du jour.

I love how American white men do their own mental gymnastics without any data. Keep dreaming that EE or Asian women want a fat, balding American man making 50K/year. They can get a much wealthier guy in their own country, 100% thinner and taller too in EE. Russians own a ton of real estate in London and Dubai and the poverty rate in Russia is well below the one in the USA. In US, boomers have insane alcohol and drug abuse problems. Boomers consume crystal meth at rates TRIPLE those of Millennials, Gen Xs and Zers. 10% of boomers abuse sedatives and 17% binge drink frequently. So yes, if these women are marrying an older American guy, there is a high probability he's a fat old drunk. The US averages are lower simply because Millennials and Zers barely drink and use drugs.
I'm in an affluent pocket in VA and I see a LOT of white American women with successful Asian husbands. My dentist is Korean and his wife is white. My friend's daughter (we're both EE from the same country) is marrying a Chinese guy who is finishing med school. I'm near a big medical center, my family is working in healthcare, and ALL the Indian surgeons have white wives. None of them are fat, like 74% of the Caucasian men BTW, and 100% of them are very successful. If you look at the Pew data, more and more white women are marring Asian men, especially the college educated one. I think everyone is realizing how much of a loser the average white guy is here.

If you were paying attention which by your comments it appears you're not , the thread is about wealthy men . However , anyone making $50k/yr in this country has it better than the vast majority of Russians.

Probably true if you compare averages between the countries but not in relation to big cities. Women from large cities in Russia are not "needy" even by the US standards. Many own apartments with no mortgages, and real estate in big cities is same value as in the US big cities, if not not expensive. I still own 2 apartments in Moscow which I use for travel and to rent out, and can go back anytime. This is around $0.5mm in net equity that I owed since age 23, vs average US home equity by retirement of around $150K.

You kept talking about large cities as if outside of Moscow there is anything of value going on elsewhere in Russia. Even in Moscow, it's a tiny fraction of kremlin-connected people who , thanks to their embezzlement and corruption live large. Stop trying to act like some of us aren't knowledgeable about Russia.

Of course provincial Russia on average is worse than US. But girls from villages or small towns are not typically on these international websites. In large cities upper middle class is pretty vast. My family wasn’t connected to Kremlin and we had several properties since Soviet times. If you are familiar with historical events, families were allowed to “privatize” state-owned apartments in early 1990s. We got one via privatization, another one as purchased in early 2000s from savings (had a small IT business). Also had a “dacha” with lake access near Moscow. It’s a typical middle class situation in these cities

Yep, same here from another EE country. I remember my dad going to the registry office with a trash bag full with our savings to buy our apartment in the 1990s lol. My parents also inherited their parents' land and homes, which are now worth a ton of money. My mom rented her little studio apartment that she bought before she got married - in the former Communist EE countries, everyone was entitled to buy an apartment based on family size, at a nominal price (like 6 months worth of salary, paid monthly without interest). In mine, nobody, and I mean nobody gets married as a mail order bride now. Most uneducated workers work in the service industry or agriculture (such as wineries in France) during the peak season and then spend the rest of the time at home. The grandparents (who retired at 55 y/o) take care of the kids while the parents work abroad. My brother is much wealthier than I am, and I have an Ivy degree and make over 200K/year. My SIL thinks we have such a c*rappy quality of life here.
What people don't get in this thread is that, even the poor EE own their house outright, the food is cheap and good, childcare and healthcare are free, college education is free, so the quality of life is significantly better. Property taxes are very low.

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I am from Moscow but I do agree with the poster above that for same money you can get much better quality of life in Europe vs US. I plan retiring in Spain, Portugal or Greece. For sure not in the US with it’s crazy housing and medical expenses

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Anonymous wrote:I am from Moscow but I do agree with the poster above that for same money you can get much better quality of life in Europe vs US. I plan retiring in Spain, Portugal or Greece. For sure not in the US with it’s crazy housing and medical expenses

PP, I'm that poster and we bought a beach house on an island in Greece last summer! My H is crazy about Europe and wants to spend part of the year there after we retire. Portugal is very popular with Americans and my McLean neighbor bought a condo there recently - she told me it's easier for Americans to buy there.

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Anonymous wrote:Up until 10 years ago it made sense for a lot of classy educated beautiful women from Eastern Europe and the former Soviet republics to marry into the west. Now, not so much. The economies have developed and they have much easier access to foreign countries through visas. There are still opportunities for 40 year old guys to marry well particularly if they are willing to marry someone who already has a child/divorced. But anyone older than that will have a lot more trouble. Single beautiful women in those countries have a lot of options. There are plenty of men. However, men age and die much more quickly due to alcoholism and other issues so there is definitely a gender imbalance over age 50. Not so much at younger ages.

'Their economies have developed'
-says who?

Let's see , which of these eastern European countries have flourishing economies ? Not Russia, not Ukraine, not Bielorussia .most European countries not part of the eruppean union have terrible economies .

They are good enough to have a comfortable life, especially in urban centers. I mean SOMEONE is keeping afloat the mortgage market in Moscow and St. Petersburg. SOMEONE is keeping vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business.

Give me a break !! With the exception of a few politically connected people in Moscow, the rest of the Russians are toiling away in poverty . Before the arrival of Russians, who use to keep vacation operators in Turkey, Egypt and Italy in business ? Here's the truth ; those countries were already hotbeds of tourism while the Russian were singing the praising of the Communist leader [i] du jour.

I love how American white men do their own mental gymnastics without any data. Keep dreaming that EE or Asian women want a fat, balding American man making 50K/year. They can get a much wealthier guy in their own country, 100% thinner and taller too in EE. Russians own a ton of real estate in London and Dubai and the poverty rate in Russia is well below the one in the USA. In US, boomers have insane alcohol and drug abuse problems. Boomers consume crystal meth at rates TRIPLE those of Millennials, Gen Xs and Zers. 10% of boomers abuse sedatives and 17% binge drink frequently. So yes, if these women are marrying an older American guy, there is a high probability he's a fat old drunk. The US averages are lower simply because Millennials and Zers barely drink and use drugs.
I'm in an affluent pocket in VA and I see a LOT of white American women with successful Asian husbands. My dentist is Korean and his wife is white. My friend's daughter (we're both EE from the same country) is marrying a Chinese guy who is finishing med school. I'm near a big medical center, my family is working in healthcare, and ALL the Indian surgeons have white wives. None of them are fat, like 74% of the Caucasian men BTW, and 100% of them are very successful. If you look at the Pew data, more and more white women are marring Asian men, especially the college educated one. I think everyone is realizing how much of a loser the average white guy is here.

If you were paying attention which by your comments it appears you're not , the thread is about wealthy men . However , anyone making $50k/yr in this country has it better than the vast majority of Russians.

Probably true if you compare averages between the countries but not in relation to big cities. Women from large cities in Russia are not "needy" even by the US standards. Many own apartments with no mortgages, and real estate in big cities is same value as in the US big cities, if not not expensive. I still own 2 apartments in Moscow which I use for travel and to rent out, and can go back anytime. This is around $0.5mm in net equity that I owed since age 23, vs average US home equity by retirement of around $150K.

You kept talking about large cities as if outside of Moscow there is anything of value going on elsewhere in Russia. Even in Moscow, it's a tiny fraction of kremlin-connected people who , thanks to their embezzlement and corruption live large. Stop trying to act like some of us aren't knowledgeable about Russia.

Of course provincial Russia on average is worse than US. But girls from villages or small towns are not typically on these international websites. In large cities upper middle class is pretty vast. My family wasn’t connected to Kremlin and we had several properties since Soviet times. If you are familiar with historical events, families were allowed to “privatize” state-owned apartments in early 1990s. We got one via privatization, another one as purchased in early 2000s from savings (had a small IT business). Also had a “dacha” with lake access near Moscow. It’s a typical middle class situation in these cities

Yep, same here from another EE country. I remember my dad going to the registry office with a trash bag full with our savings to buy our apartment in the 1990s lol. My parents also inherited their parents' land and homes, which are now worth a ton of money. My mom rented her little studio apartment that she bought before she got married - in the former Communist EE countries, everyone was entitled to buy an apartment based on family size, at a nominal price (like 6 months worth of salary, paid monthly without interest). In mine, nobody, and I mean nobody gets married as a mail order bride now. Most uneducated workers work in the service industry or agriculture (such as wineries in France) during the peak season and then spend the rest of the time at home. The grandparents (who retired at 55 y/o) take care of the kids while the parents work abroad. My brother is much wealthier than I am, and I have an Ivy degree and make over 200K/year. My SIL thinks we have such a c*rappy quality of life here.
What people don't get in this thread is that, even the poor EE own their house outright, the food is cheap and good, childcare and healthcare are free, college education is free, so the quality of life is significantly better. Property taxes are very low.

Yes, but the US has way more billionaires than EE, and OP is asking why do these very wealthy American men look for wives in EE. We are not talking about MC/UMC but the Trump kind of wealth.

FWIW, I would love to retire in Portugal. Have a friend who picked up her entire family and moved there recently.

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I am so fascinated by this. My BIL married a Russian woman he met online. He was neither rich nor good looking, so I always just assume she was desperate to get to America. I definitely consider that prostitution, and it also makes me feel really sad that she felt she had to do that to get out of Russia (I really like her, truth be told). I do agree with previous posters that the way she acts is super unnatural to me - she fawns over him constantly and is always laughing at his (really bad) jokes, almost as if she thinks she's in a rom-com. He is always pawing at her in a really uncomfortable way.
They've been married 8 years now, so assume she's happy? I just wonder how these women (and men) actually meet online. Are there sites I don't know about? Are the women just trolling facebook?

[Anonymous]

This thread is so vile and racist. Unbelievable. DCUM had really turned into a garbage can, and posters are like rats going through garbage. What a great representation of Americans and in particular DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so vile and racist. Unbelievable. DCUM had really turned into a garbage can, and posters are like rats going through garbage. What a great representation of Americans and in particular DMV.

+1 White Americans cannot get away with their racism toward POC anymore, so they found a new group of people they can make fun of and belittle openly and it is white Eastern Europeans.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so fascinated by this. My BIL married a Russian woman he met online. He was neither rich nor good looking, so I always just assume she was desperate to get to America. I definitely consider that prostitution, and it also makes me feel really sad that she felt she had to do that to get out of Russia (I really like her, truth be told). I do agree with previous posters that the way she acts is super unnatural to me - she fawns over him constantly and is always laughing at his (really bad) jokes, almost as if she thinks she's in a rom-com. He is always pawing at her in a really uncomfortable way.
They've been married 8 years now, so assume she's happy? I just wonder how these women (and men) actually meet online. Are there sites I don't know about? Are the women just trolling facebook?

Russia is a poor country- ranking GDP per capita by country is 81, Malaysia is 82. Ukraine is 135 Mongolia is 131. A middle class life in the US is very attractive to people in these countries( and other countries). Once married their extended family can come over. Some people just want out of their situation.

Yes there are websites. Google Ukraine brides. There are a bunch of companies that are “ matchmakers“. Some are legit and other are not. After every war there are war brides. After WW2 German and Japanese brides(and grooms) made their way to the US.

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Anonymous wrote:I am from Moscow but I do agree with the poster above that for same money you can get much better quality of life in Europe vs US. I plan retiring in Spain, Portugal or Greece. For sure not in the US with it’s crazy housing and medical expenses

PP, I'm that poster and we bought a beach house on an island in Greece last summer! My H is crazy about Europe and wants to spend part of the year there after we retire. Portugal is very popular with Americans and my McLean neighbor bought a condo there recently - she told me it's easier for Americans to buy there.

Condo in Portugal sounds great ! I love Greece, too - I don’t know if there is another place on Earth where you can still buy a private bay for $300k like on some Greek islands

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Anonymous wrote:I am so fascinated by this. My BIL married a Russian woman he met online. He was neither rich nor good looking, so I always just assume she was desperate to get to America. I definitely consider that prostitution, and it also makes me feel really sad that she felt she had to do that to get out of Russia (I really like her, truth be told). I do agree with previous posters that the way she acts is super unnatural to me - she fawns over him constantly and is always laughing at his (really bad) jokes, almost as if she thinks she's in a rom-com. He is always pawing at her in a really uncomfortable way.
They've been married 8 years now, so assume she's happy? I just wonder how these women (and men) actually meet online. Are there sites I don't know about? Are the women just trolling facebook?

You are saying your brother in law is ugly and has a bad sense of humor. Maybe she actually finds him attractive and likes his jokes? 8 years is a long time for someone who only married for a green card. How do people meet online? Seriously? There are thousands of all kids of dating websites out there.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so fascinated by this. My BIL married a Russian woman he met online. He was neither rich nor good looking, so I always just assume she was desperate to get to America. I definitely consider that prostitution, and it also makes me feel really sad that she felt she had to do that to get out of Russia (I really like her, truth be told). I do agree with previous posters that the way she acts is super unnatural to me - she fawns over him constantly and is always laughing at his (really bad) jokes, almost as if she thinks she's in a rom-com. He is always pawing at her in a really uncomfortable way.
They've been married 8 years now, so assume she's happy? I just wonder how these women (and men) actually meet online. Are there sites I don't know about? Are the women just trolling facebook?

I’ve met a bunch of Russian mail-order-brides and their husbands about 20 years ago through a mutual friend. It was a sad sight: the men were either very old, or very stupid, or both. The most idiotic one was also a russophobe. I guess, he derived pleasure from humiliating her for being Russian? Women were educated and employed but not stunning or overly impressive in any way. 20 years later I had a chance to follow up on them, and all of the couples had gotten divorced. Some women stayed single, others remarried to men similar to them in background, age, and education.