Ozark season 4 is out today!

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Anonymous wrote:The first 3 episodes of part 2 seemed to crawl - so slow. Then we get to the last episode and it felt very rushed.

It should have ended with the viewers seeing the broken glass at the Byrd's home and a silhouette the person's head who was waiting.

That ending would have been fantastic.

I thought it wouldn't have been bad if they all died in the car wreck.

I found it almost comical that they all walked away from that horrific car wreck with nary a scratch. I mean, SERIOUSLY??
DP

That was pretty unrealistic

yeah, whiplash anyone, broken wrists? That's the MINIMUM they'd all have suffered. Plus Wendy was laying on her back unconscious, so concussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone remind me why the FBI has a deal with these people and is not arresting them all?

SEIZURES

What about seizures?

They get to keep the money?

So the cartel is paying the FBI off?

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.

Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?

How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.

Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?

How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.

The point is, no one knows. That's the beauty of an unclear ending. They took the lead from The Sopranos finale.

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Anonymous wrote:The first 3 episodes of part 2 seemed to crawl - so slow. Then we get to the last episode and it felt very rushed.

It should have ended with the viewers seeing the broken glass at the Byrd's home and a silhouette the person's head who was waiting.

That ending would have been fantastic.

I thought it wouldn't have been bad if they all died in the car wreck.

I found it almost comical that they all walked away from that horrific car wreck with nary a scratch. I mean, SERIOUSLY??
DP

That was pretty unrealistic

I think that was the point of the crash. The family would stick together and even in bad situations they would never get hurt. Every person that came into contact with them would get hurt, but not the four of them. I think the writers wanted that scene so we would believe that Jonah would go back to putting his family first. It was too unbelievable though because Jonah was strong in his convictions about right and wrong. Jonah did not just go to the dark side with his mother. Ruth would have been the best character for a spin off.

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Just reporting that i did not like that ending. I thought it was really lame.

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Anonymous wrote:Just reporting that i did not like that ending. I thought it was really lame.

I was disappointed they killed Ruth. Camila is pretty bad ass, though, and I liked how she was wearing black and Ruth wore white for the death scene. The dresses were the only good thing about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Just reporting that i did not like that ending. I thought it was really lame.

I was disappointed they killed Ruth. Camila is pretty bad ass, though, and I liked how she was wearing black and Ruth wore white for the death scene. The dresses were the only good thing about it.

Ruth looked like a movie star from the 30s in that dress. She died at her peak, rich, glamorous and building a pool. It was kind of inevitable, her ending now that I think about it, sad as it was.

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Anonymous wrote:This season could have done fine without Wendy’s dad (John Boy Walton!) and the PI storyline.
Wasn’t it definitely the PI who was shot by Jonah? Didn’t he keel over? Not gonna rewatch it.
I just figure the Byrds are going to keep on Byrding with Camilla and Co.

I thought John Boy was amazing and would not have cut a second of him.

DP. He was amazingly vile. Though I thought he looked too young to be Wendy's dad.

Yeah, he is 70 and she's almost 60 in real life, but she was definitely "playing" younger than her real life age. Plus she's a natural red head so she is going to look older with that pale, delicate skin.

Laura Linney also has not had much, if anything "done." And good for her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first 3 episodes of part 2 seemed to crawl - so slow. Then we get to the last episode and it felt very rushed.

It should have ended with the viewers seeing the broken glass at the Byrd's home and a silhouette the person's head who was waiting.

That ending would have been fantastic.

I thought it wouldn't have been bad if they all died in the car wreck.

I found it almost comical that they all walked away from that horrific car wreck with nary a scratch. I mean, SERIOUSLY??
DP

That was pretty unrealistic

I think that was the point of the crash. The family would stick together and even in bad situations they would never get hurt. Every person that came into contact with them would get hurt, but not the four of them. I think the writers wanted that scene so we would believe that Jonah would go back to putting his family first. It was too unbelievable though because Jonah was strong in his convictions about right and wrong. Jonah did not just go to the dark side with his mother. Ruth would have been the best character for a spin off.

I think Jonah is like a lot of us - you can hate on your family, but no one else can. He was a lot like Ruth in that regard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone remind me why the FBI has a deal with these people and is not arresting them all?

SEIZURES

What about seizures?

They get to keep the money?

So the cartel is paying the FBI off?

It’s a mutually beneficial relationship?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just reporting that i did not like that ending. I thought it was really lame.

I was disappointed they killed Ruth. Camila is pretty bad ass, though, and I liked how she was wearing black and Ruth wore white for the death scene. The dresses were the only good thing about it.

Ruth looked like a movie star from the 30s in that dress. She died at her peak, rich, glamorous and building a pool. It was kind of inevitable, her ending now that I think about it, sad as it was.

Yup. Sad, but inevitable.

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For me, the best part of this last installment was being reminded of how amazing Illmatic is.

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the best part of this last installment was being reminded of how amazing Illmatic is.

All the rap music was so perfect in this. And I loved the scene in the diner.

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.

Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?

How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.

PP here. Good point. I guess they leave up to us to decide.