Ozark season 4 is out today!

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.

Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?

How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.

It seems even more unrealistic to think that Jonah was able to make precise a shot (a cookie jar the PI was holding), plus shooting with a shotgun that coose range would for sure kill the PI, too. I think this is a wishful overanalysis even though I, too, don’t think it is realistic Jonah would kill the PI after the version of his character portrayed through the entire series.

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.

Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. [b]All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?

How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.

It seems even more unrealistic to think that Jonah was able to make precise a shot (a cookie jar the PI was holding), plus shooting with a shotgun that coose range would for sure kill the PI, too. I think this is a wishful overanalysis even though I, too, don’t think it is realistic Jonah would kill the PI after the version of his character portrayed through the entire series.

Pretty sure that was a rifle

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Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.

It was. The PI is dead. Good ending. He should have minded his own business.
Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. [b]All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?

How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.

It seems even more unrealistic to think that Jonah was able to make precise a shot (a cookie jar the PI was holding), plus shooting with a shotgun that coose range would for sure kill the PI, too. I think this is a wishful overanalysis even though I, too, don’t think it is realistic Jonah would kill the PI after the version of his character portrayed through the entire series.

Pretty sure that was a rifle

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just finished the last episode. I wasn't happy but I was satisfied I guess.

I agree that all the Wendy and Marty maneuvering was over the top, but I feel like it was symbolic of their fate - they will always have to be one step ahead and looking over their shoulder.

Ruth - I'll be the outlier, but Ruth's story ended as it should have. The entire series Ruth has been struggling to move beyond her roots, but at the same time she never really wanted to. The scene where she sees her father, uncle, and Wyatt - she was half gone. Was it sad to lose her? Yes. Was it the right conclusion for her character? Also yes.

Who did Jonah shoot? Tough one, but I think Jonah shot the detective. The Byrdes are one messed up family, but they are a family. Remember Charlotte telling Jonah it's ok if some part of him wants to go to the gala? More than one part of him wanted to go.

I think it ended as it should have overall.

It was. The PI is dead. He should have minded his own business.
It was. The PI is dead. Good ending. He should have minded his own business.
Agree. It wasn't at all the ending I expected, but I like that it surprised me. [b]All Jonah would have had to do was shoot the goat cookie jar - all the ashes would have blown away and been useless. I think that's how I would have ended it - the detective himself didn't have to die if the ashes were unusable.

So are we to understand that Marty and Wendy are not headed back to Chicago as they had planned, and instead will continue laundering money for Omar's sister?

How are you so sure that did not happen? They did a fade to black at the end before the gunshot. We never actually saw the PI get shot.

It seems even more unrealistic to think that Jonah was able to make precise a shot (a cookie jar the PI was holding), plus shooting with a shotgun that coose range would for sure kill the PI, too. I think this is a wishful overanalysis even though I, too, don’t think it is realistic Jonah would kill the PI after the version of his character portrayed through the entire series.

Pretty sure that was a rifle

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Anonymous wrote:The first 3 episodes of part 2 seemed to crawl - so slow. Then we get to the last episode and it felt very rushed.

It should have ended with the viewers seeing the broken glass at the Byrd's home and a silhouette the person's head who was waiting.

That ending would have been fantastic.

I thought it wouldn't have been bad if they all died in the car wreck.

I found it almost comical that they all walked away from that horrific car wreck with nary a scratch. I mean, SERIOUSLY??
DP

That was pretty unrealistic

I actually laughed out loud when they pulled up in the cab and got out after that wreck.

[Anonymous]

SPOILER ALERT
I struggled to get through the last episodes because they were so dark. Why on earth would they end it that way?
***Spoiler*********
I heard there was talk about Ruth getting a spin off. Guess not.

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Anonymous wrote:SPOILER ALERT
I struggled to get through the last episodes because they were so dark. Why on earth would they end it that way?
***Spoiler*********
I heard there was talk about Ruth getting a spin off. Guess not.

Wasn't the whole series kind of dark?

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Yes, it was dark.

And yes, Jonah shot him.

He's a good shot, that goes all the way back to season 1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SPOILER ALERT
I struggled to get through the last episodes because they were so dark. Why on earth would they end it that way?
***Spoiler*********
I heard there was talk about Ruth getting a spin off. Guess not.

Wasn't the whole series kind of dark?

Yeah, not only was the subject matter dark, I was forever slamming the brightness button in the effort to see better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SPOILER ALERT
I struggled to get through the last episodes because they were so dark. Why on earth would they end it that way?
***Spoiler*********
I heard there was talk about Ruth getting a spin off. Guess not.

It ended that way because the Byrdes always win. They’re untouchable, even when they’re in a car accident that should be deadly they emerge almost without a scratch. Everyone else is collateral damage. While I would have liked more than anything to see Wendy get what was coming to her, I understand it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SPOILER ALERT
I struggled to get through the last episodes because they were so dark. Why on earth would they end it that way?
***Spoiler*********
I heard there was talk about Ruth getting a spin off. Guess not.

It ended that way because the Byrdes always win. They’re untouchable, even when they’re in a car accident that should be deadly they emerge almost without a scratch. Everyone else is collateral damage. While I would have liked more than anything to see Wendy get what was coming to her, I understand it.

I am not sure they “won”, but they did survive. That’s what the show was about at its core: doing what is necessary to survive. Let your brother be killed (Ben). Let your de facto other daughter (Ruth) be killed. Get the head of a cartel killed. Screw over a detective and an FBI agent. Get the local opium growers / landowners killed (Snells). All the time, chipping away at your morality and corrupting your kids. Dark story, but a good one to watch.

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Wendy was a total monster by the end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The first 3 episodes of part 2 seemed to crawl - so slow. Then we get to the last episode and it felt very rushed.

It should have ended with the viewers seeing the broken glass at the Byrd's home and a silhouette the person's head who was waiting.

That ending would have been fantastic.

I thought it wouldn't have been bad if they all died in the car wreck.

I found it almost comical that they all walked away from that horrific car wreck with nary a scratch. I mean, SERIOUSLY??
DP

That was pretty unrealistic

I actually laughed out loud when they pulled up in the cab and got out after that wreck.

Me too! So absurd!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wendy was a total monster by the end.

I don't know... I think the prospect of losing her children woke her up a bit. I liked what she said to Jonah and Charlotte when they came to visit her in the mental hospital. True, she's all about the lifestyle now - but she knows she'd be nothing without her family.

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I would have liked it to end with Ruth in her new big house looking out over the pool and her lake and smiling at all she ended up with.