Not sure if this should be in the policy forum instead... Anyone here voting for Youngkin because of

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to admit this thread is making me reconsider voting for McAuliffe. I’m a hardcore Democrat and was planning to vote against Youngkin because I decided when Trump won that every Republican should be punished at the ballot box until he and his family are thoroughly renounced. At the same time, I’m the child of immigrants who believes in hard work and high standards. I am not a fan of relaxing academic standards in the name of equality.

Are you a fan of banning books? Are you a fan of limiting history education to one perspective? Are you against public schools in favor of private ones?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Simple as pro-life or pro-choice. End of story for me. How can anyone tell you what you or your daughter can do with her body. F that noise. Will never vote otherwise.

NP. I used to be a one-issue voter - pro-life, period. No more. This is an important issue, but I've decided to stop limiting who I vote for based on this *one* issue. I now consider myself a pro-choice Republican and will be voting for Youngkin. Abortion isn't even figuring into my decision this time.

Even though Youngkin has said he would go “on the offense?

And the SCOTUS is discussing Texas right now?

This is an important & time-sensitive issue.

McAuliffe has already demonstrated that he would veto GOP efforts to attack women’s rights. This should be a no-brainer for anyone who feels strongly about choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple as pro-life or pro-choice. End of story for me. How can anyone tell you what you or your daughter can do with her body. F that noise. Will never vote otherwise.

Exactly this.

It’s a slippery slope in letting him in. It’s like opening a door to having all of our daughters to be traumatized in this state.

Oh, stop. We are not in any danger of "traumatizing our daughters." Quit the hyperbole.

Remember the transvaginal ultrasounds the republicans in VA tried to force on women?

Yes, this is what happens with a Republican governor.

March 2012 - nine years ago:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/virginia-gov-bob-mcdonnell-signs-virginia-ultrasound-bill/

“Amid continued protests from Democrats, Republican Governor Bob McDonnell on Wednesday signed into law a controversial bill requiring Virginia women to undergo an ultrasound procedure prior to having an abortion.“

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to admit this thread is making me reconsider voting for McAuliffe. I’m a hardcore Democrat and was planning to vote against Youngkin because I decided when Trump won that every Republican should be punished at the ballot box until he and his family are thoroughly renounced. At the same time, I’m the child of immigrants who believes in hard work and high standards. I am not a fan of relaxing academic standards in the name of equality.

Are you a fan of banning books? Are you a fan of limiting history education to one perspective? Are you against public schools in favor of private ones?

DP who just voted for Youngkin.

I see no evidence that Terry McAuliffe and his ilk are in favor of any public schools other than Langley HS, which is about 2.5% FARMS and has been allowed by the all-Democrat School Board to operate more like a private school than a public school for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to admit this thread is making me reconsider voting for McAuliffe. I’m a hardcore Democrat and was planning to vote against Youngkin because I decided when Trump won that every Republican should be punished at the ballot box until he and his family are thoroughly renounced. At the same time, I’m the child of immigrants who believes in hard work and high standards. I am not a fan of relaxing academic standards in the name of equality.

Are you a fan of banning books? Are you a fan of limiting history education to one perspective? Are you against public schools in favor of private ones?

DP who just voted for Youngkin.

I see no evidence that Terry McAuliffe and his ilk are in favor of any public schools other than Langley HS, which is about 2.5% FARMS and has been allowed by the all-Democrat School Board to operate more like a private school than a public school for decades.

Did you actually read his education platform? Or are you just getting “info” from Youngkin ads?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely.

I don’t understand why the “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach” quote is so controversial. It was taken out of context. Youngkin’s TV commercial also says something about the FBI trying to silence parents and shows a quick snippet about protecting school boards from protestors. Some of the protests have been quite threatening and I don’t see how protecting members of school boards from protestors amounts to silencing parents.

Same. Parents already have plenty of a role in education -- lots of ways to participate and weigh in. Younkin wants those nuts screaming at school boards to make decisions for all kids and most of us are not okay with that.

See this terrifying article about what a Florida school board member endured: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/10/20/jennifer-jenkins-brevard-school-board-masks-threats/

See this story about "Moms for Liberty" which is the type of parents Youngkin wants to put in charge of our kids' education: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/moms-for-liberty-parents-rights/2021/10/14/bf3d9ccc-286a-11ec-8831-a31e7b3de188_story.html

Many of these "local" groups of parents are funded and organized by national right wing groups. I do not want right wing advocacy groups in charge of our schools.

+1
In my view a vote for Youngkin also says it is ok to yell and disrupt school board proceedings to try and get your way. It legitimizes Trumpism, the likes of Amanda Chase, and others who participated in the coup attempt of Jan. 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely.

I don’t understand why the “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach” quote is so controversial. It was taken out of context. Youngkin’s TV commercial also says something about the FBI trying to silence parents and shows a quick snippet about protecting school boards from protestors. Some of the protests have been quite threatening and I don’t see how protecting members of school boards from protestors amounts to silencing parents.

Same. Parents already have plenty of a role in education -- lots of ways to participate and weigh in. Younkin wants those nuts screaming at school boards to make decisions for all kids and most of us are not okay with that.

See this terrifying article about what a Florida school board member endured: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/10/20/jennifer-jenkins-brevard-school-board-masks-threats/

See this story about "Moms for Liberty" which is the type of parents Youngkin wants to put in charge of our kids' education: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/moms-for-liberty-parents-rights/2021/10/14/bf3d9ccc-286a-11ec-8831-a31e7b3de188_story.html

Many of these "local" groups of parents are funded and organized by national right wing groups. I do not want right wing advocacy groups in charge of our schools.

So you'd prefer left wing advocacy groups in charge of our schools. Got it. And no thanks.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have to admit this thread is making me reconsider voting for McAuliffe. I’m a hardcore Democrat and was planning to vote against Youngkin because I decided when Trump won that every Republican should be punished at the ballot box until he and his family are thoroughly renounced. At the same time, I’m the child of immigrants who believes in hard work and high standards. I am not a fan of relaxing academic standards in the name of equality.

Are you a fan of banning books? Are you a fan of limiting history education to one perspective? Are you against public schools in favor of private ones?

DP who just voted for Youngkin.

I see no evidence that Terry McAuliffe and his ilk are in favor of any public schools other than Langley HS, which is about 2.5% FARMS and has been allowed by the all-Democrat School Board to operate more like a private school than a public school for decades.

DP. I also voted for Youngkin, but what do you mean about the bolded? How is Langley "operated more like a private school than a public school"? I have kids who have gone there for the last decade, so I'm interested in what you mean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely.

I don’t understand why the “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach” quote is so controversial. It was taken out of context. Youngkin’s TV commercial also says something about the FBI trying to silence parents and shows a quick snippet about protecting school boards from protestors. Some of the protests have been quite threatening and I don’t see how protecting members of school boards from protestors amounts to silencing parents.

Same. Parents already have plenty of a role in education -- lots of ways to participate and weigh in. Younkin wants those nuts screaming at school boards to make decisions for all kids and most of us are not okay with that.

See this terrifying article about what a Florida school board member endured: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/10/20/jennifer-jenkins-brevard-school-board-masks-threats/

See this story about "Moms for Liberty" which is the type of parents Youngkin wants to put in charge of our kids' education: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/moms-for-liberty-parents-rights/2021/10/14/bf3d9ccc-286a-11ec-8831-a31e7b3de188_story.html

Many of these "local" groups of parents are funded and organized by national right wing groups. I do not want right wing advocacy groups in charge of our schools.

+1
In my view a vote for Youngkin also says it is ok to yell and disrupt school board proceedings to try and get your way. It legitimizes Trumpism, the likes of Amanda Chase, and others who participated in the coup attempt of Jan. 6.

Glenn Youngkin beat Amanda Chase and had nothing to do with Jan. 6th.

[Anonymous]

Except left wing advocacy groups aren't in charge of our schools. Just because younkin, trump and others say it doesn't mean it's true. Try to get actual news not propoganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like some of the republican values but dislike many. I like some of the democratic values but dislike many. It will be a hard decision for me. I hate all the stupid FCPS social surveys, health ed topics, let kids choose their own gender pronouns and lowering the bar for underachievers to become achievers. I hate that everything in school is looked at from a racist lens. I hate that FCPS is not putting pressure on parents to do their part as parents rather than depend on the school to raise kids. So yes liberal FCPS getting a F from me. Will just that make me vote for Youngkin? Probably not because I am in a position to teach my kids what I want them to learn and opt out from the ones I think is stupid. Also I don't know of a republican school district that's better than FCPS.

OP again. You pretty much summarized my feelings. After reading this thread I'm leaning towards voting D... The abortion issue and the risk of gerrymandering are big risks to take. But yeah, I am so pissed at FCPS and at all this wokeness that has suddenly permeated school policies.

That said, I cannot wait for our next SB election. I do hope we get a more balanced State house of Delegates...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. Absolutely.

I don’t understand why the “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach” quote is so controversial. It was taken out of context. Youngkin’s TV commercial also says something about the FBI trying to silence parents and shows a quick snippet about protecting school boards from protestors. Some of the protests have been quite threatening and I don’t see how protecting members of school boards from protestors amounts to silencing parents.

Same. Parents already have plenty of a role in education -- lots of ways to participate and weigh in. Younkin wants those nuts screaming at school boards to make decisions for all kids and most of us are not okay with that.

See this terrifying article about what a Florida school board member endured: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/10/20/jennifer-jenkins-brevard-school-board-masks-threats/

See this story about "Moms for Liberty" which is the type of parents Youngkin wants to put in charge of our kids' education: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/moms-for-liberty-parents-rights/2021/10/14/bf3d9ccc-286a-11ec-8831-a31e7b3de188_story.html

Many of these "local" groups of parents are funded and organized by national right wing groups. I do not want right wing advocacy groups in charge of our schools.

+1
In my view a vote for Youngkin also says it is ok to yell and disrupt school board proceedings to try and get your way. It legitimizes Trumpism, the likes of Amanda Chase, and others who participated in the coup attempt of Jan. 6.

Glenn Youngkin beat Amanda Chase and had nothing to do with Jan. 6th.

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Amanda Chase has been all around as Youngkin surrogate -- she keeps talking about the 2020 election being stolen and assuring voters that Youngkin will fix the election system for trump. Glenn Youngkin has everything to do with Amanda Chase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Except left wing advocacy groups aren't in charge of our schools. Just because younkin, trump and others say it doesn't mean it's true. Try to get actual news not propoganda.

no, LWAG groups, specifically, are not in charge of our schools. But their influence runs far deeper than it should with the D party and that is reason enough to vote against them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except left wing advocacy groups aren't in charge of our schools. Just because younkin, trump and others say it doesn't mean it's true. Try to get actual news not propoganda.

no, LWAG groups, specifically, are not in charge of our schools. But their influence runs far deeper than it should with the D party and that is reason enough to vote against them.

Youngkin has made clear that he wants right wing groups running education, he wants private schools, not public, he wants to ban materials and limit books available to kids. I am much more afraid of his influence in our schools than moderate McAuliffe (who was already Governor and the state was run very well).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Except left wing advocacy groups aren't in charge of our schools. Just because younkin, trump and others say it doesn't mean it's true. Try to get actual news not propoganda.

no, LWAG groups, specifically, are not in charge of our schools. But their influence runs far deeper than it should with the D party and that is reason enough to vote against them.

Youngkin has made clear that he wants right wing groups running education, he wants private schools, not public, he wants to ban materials and limit books available to kids. I am much more afraid of his influence in our schools than moderate McAuliffe (who was already Governor and the state was run very well).

The only people voting for Youngkin are brain dead.

What you wrote is exactly the truth.

Youngkin will only make things worse. Not to mention his right wing support is horrific to say the least.