Biden strikes out with King Manchin

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Republicans do well tonight, there will be even less pressure on Sinema and Manchin to pass these ridiculous spending spree bills. In fact, a good night for Rs might have the "moderate" Dems thinking about a bloodbath for them in 2022. If this happens, the Administration is going to lose bigly on their legislative priorities.

Good. These spending bills have tanked our economy and BBB would be the worse of them all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't think committee assignments are going to matter much when they lose the majority shortly. Manchin is thinking a year out now.

Wait until tonight. If Dems lose, the panic begins.

Let's go let's go let's go! Its time the progressives learn the moderates are charge! They've sat by gleeful as inflation rose, our grocery prices are out of control, our supply chain is leaderless, and the labor shortage is critical because they're depositing thousands every month in unearned income.

Give them hell Virginia!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Republicans do well tonight, there will be even less pressure on Sinema and Manchin to pass these ridiculous spending spree bills. In fact, a good night for Rs might have the "moderate" Dems thinking about a bloodbath for them in 2022. If this happens, the Administration is going to lose bigly on their legislative priorities.

Good. These spending bills have tanked our economy and BBB would be the worse of them all.

A spending bill that hasn't even passed the Congress de facto cannot be "tanking our economy."

COVID f#cked the economy. Fix COVID and you fix the economy.

And, last time I checked, we are not in a recession. Really low unemployment rates, markets are frothy, and insatiable consumer demand. I'd say we are doing pretty well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Republicans do well tonight, there will be even less pressure on Sinema and Manchin to pass these ridiculous spending spree bills. In fact, a good night for Rs might have the "moderate" Dems thinking about a bloodbath for them in 2022. If this happens, the Administration is going to lose bigly on their legislative priorities.

Good. These spending bills have tanked our economy and BBB would be the worse of them all.

A spending bill that hasn't even passed the Congress de facto cannot be "tanking our economy."

COVID f#cked the economy. Fix COVID and you fix the economy.

And, last time I checked, we are not in a recession. Really low unemployment rates, markets are frothy, and insatiable consumer demand. I'd say we are doing pretty well.

The CTC which was passed back in March is in fact tanking the economy. No one is working because guess what - THEY DON'T HAVE TO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Republicans do well tonight, there will be even less pressure on Sinema and Manchin to pass these ridiculous spending spree bills. In fact, a good night for Rs might have the "moderate" Dems thinking about a bloodbath for them in 2022. If this happens, the Administration is going to lose bigly on their legislative priorities.

Good. These spending bills have tanked our economy and BBB would be the worse of them all.

A spending bill that hasn't even passed the Congress de facto cannot be "tanking our economy."

COVID f#cked the economy. Fix COVID and you fix the economy.

And, last time I checked, we are not in a recession. Really low unemployment rates, markets are frothy, and insatiable consumer demand. I'd say we are doing pretty well.

Wow. The delusion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't think committee assignments are going to matter much when they lose the majority shortly. Manchin is thinking a year out now.

Wait until tonight. If Dems lose, the panic begins.

Let's go let's go let's go! Its time the progressives learn the moderates are charge! They've sat by gleeful as inflation rose, our grocery prices are out of control, our supply chain is leaderless, and the labor shortage is critical because they're depositing thousands every month in unearned income.

Give them hell Virginia!

That's not why prices are increasing or why there are supply chain issues.

The bullspit is what's killing us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funny you didn’t call out the progressives after they refused to bring the BIF bill up for a vote as Biden requested to have when he landed in Rome

Manchin tanked that vote yesterday with a news conference where he backtracked on everything he had previously agreed to.

Meanwhile, Sinema had previously tanked the revenue side.

Progressives and everyone else in the caucus has compromised and given in to all of their stated demands. At which point Manchenema came up with new demands.

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Anonymous wrote:The time has come for Manchin and Sinema to give up on negotiations. The house democrats live on another planet. It's too bad we can't have the infrastructure bill, but oh well.

Those two are negotiating with the republicans about which committees they will chair after taking down the “libs”. They have their marching orders from the republicans and will stop everything. Do not know why people call them moderates. Once they switch parties the republicans can stop all investigations into trump, Jan 6th and pass some tax cuts for the rich(which will cost more vs this bill). Too bad there were a lot of good programs in the bill but M&S do not want either bill to pass.

They aren’t going to switch parties. Manchin only had power as a Democrat - the moment he changes parties, far-right WVa Republicans will flock to primary him and will probably beat him for the nomination given who comes out for a Republican primary vs. a general election.

And Sinema is toast no matter what after this. She has a 25% approval rating among Dems in Arizona so there’s no way she survives another primary. Her chances of winning a primary if she switches to the Republican Party are even lower because Republicans don’t actually agree with stances on most things, the way just like that she’s making a mess for the Dems.

Yup, but it's not just about a Manchin republican primary. If he switched parties then WV loses all their political clout. There's a reason why their other Senator has no juice.

Sinema is also tanking big time with independents. AZ has an openish primary but the only people supporting her right now are MAGA republicans. Her positions are odd - no prescription drug negotiations and no touching of the last round of tax cuts. Neither of those positions are at all popular with a very large majority.

[Anonymous]

The balls of steel. Just amazing.

[Anonymous]

At this point just pass the infrastructure bill, with every dollar to WV stripped out. Manchin is a lost cause.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't think committee assignments are going to matter much when they lose the majority shortly. Manchin is thinking a year out now.

Wait until tonight. If Dems lose, the panic begins.

Let's go let's go let's go! Its time the progressives learn the moderates are charge! They've sat by gleeful as inflation rose, our grocery prices are out of control, our supply chain is leaderless, and the labor shortage is critical because they're depositing thousands every month in unearned income.

Give them hell Virginia!

Counting until Friday. That won’t end well for Rs. Election theft is rampant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't think committee assignments are going to matter much when they lose the majority shortly. Manchin is thinking a year out now.

Wait until tonight. If Dems lose, the panic begins.

Let's go let's go let's go! Its time the progressives learn the moderates are charge! They've sat by gleeful as inflation rose, our grocery prices are out of control, our supply chain is leaderless, and the labor shortage is critical because they're depositing thousands every month in unearned income.

Give them hell Virginia!

Counting until Friday. That won’t end well for Rs. Election theft is rampant.

Oh we'll know tonight who's the winner. Get ready for Governor Youngkin

[Anonymous]

We got to stop allowing States to count votes long after the election passes. With counting allowed until Friday, that means Dems have that much more time to "adjust" the vote counts. It should be that your ballot arrives on election day, not postmarked by election day. It's not too much to ask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We got to stop allowing States to count votes long after the election passes. With counting allowed until Friday, that means Dems have that much more time to "adjust" the vote counts. It should be that your ballot arrives on election day, not postmarked by election day. It's not too much to ask.

It’s just the mail-in ballots which don’t matter as long as the victory is decisive on Election Day.

Polls close in 4 hours and a new VA law stipulates immediate vote totals being announced.

The only way we’re waiting until Friday is if the vote is so close that a 1,000 Mail-in ballots will make the slightest difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I don't think committee assignments are going to matter much when they lose the majority shortly. Manchin is thinking a year out now.

Wait until tonight. If Dems lose, the panic begins.

He is negotiating with republicans about chairmanships. Rumors say he is going to switch parties in December.