What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Some of the tests take days, weeks, months," says Alan Hall, MD, a board-certified toxicologist and consultant in Laramie, Wyo. The final toxicology report, he says, draws not only from multiple test results and confirmation of the results, but also on the clinical experience of the toxicologists and pathologists involved in the investigation, as well as field work.

Here is what toxicology tests include, why they take so long, and why they can be tricky.

What is toxicology testing?

The toxicology testing performed after a person's death is known as forensic toxicology testing or postmortem drug testing.

Interesting.

I read that the initial autopsy (that already showed nothing in this case) tests for common drugs of abuse. The forensic toxicology (which is done subsequently) will test for less common poisons. A standard turnaround is 4-6 weeks. 2-3% of cases turn out to be inconclusive.

If it was sleep medication, it should have shown up in the initial autopsy?

I wanna read can you cite your source please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Some of the tests take days, weeks, months," says Alan Hall, MD, a board-certified toxicologist and consultant in Laramie, Wyo. The final toxicology report, he says, draws not only from multiple test results and confirmation of the results, but also on the clinical experience of the toxicologists and pathologists involved in the investigation, as well as field work.

Here is what toxicology tests include, why they take so long, and why they can be tricky.

What is toxicology testing?

The toxicology testing performed after a person's death is known as forensic toxicology testing or postmortem drug testing.

Interesting.

I read that the initial autopsy (that already showed nothing in this case) tests for common drugs of abuse. The forensic toxicology (which is done subsequently) will test for less common poisons. A standard turnaround is 4-6 weeks. 2-3% of cases turn out to be inconclusive.

If it was sleep medication, it should have shown up in the initial autopsy?

I wanna read can you cite your source please?

Sorry I mean to ask the question too since I am not sure sleep medication is common drug and should have shown up already in the initial autopsy if it was in their system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Some of the tests take days, weeks, months," says Alan Hall, MD, a board-certified toxicologist and consultant in Laramie, Wyo. The final toxicology report, he says, draws not only from multiple test results and confirmation of the results, but also on the clinical experience of the toxicologists and pathologists involved in the investigation, as well as field work.

Here is what toxicology tests include, why they take so long, and why they can be tricky.

What is toxicology testing?

The toxicology testing performed after a person's death is known as forensic toxicology testing or postmortem drug testing.

Interesting.

I read that the initial autopsy (that already showed nothing in this case) tests for common drugs of abuse. The forensic toxicology (which is done subsequently) will test for less common poisons. A standard turnaround is 4-6 weeks. 2-3% of cases turn out to be inconclusive.

If it was sleep medication, it should have shown up in the initial autopsy?

I wanna read can you cite your source please?

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/features/the-truth-about-toxicology-tests#1

[Anonymous]

What does post mortem toxicology show?
Toxicology tests performed for autopsies are called forensic or post-mortem toxicology tests. These tests determine if and what kind of drugs were in a person's system. Experts also measure the amount of drugs and look to see if the concentration is of a lethal dosage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Some of the tests take days, weeks, months," says Alan Hall, MD, a board-certified toxicologist and consultant in Laramie, Wyo. The final toxicology report, he says, draws not only from multiple test results and confirmation of the results, but also on the clinical experience of the toxicologists and pathologists involved in the investigation, as well as field work.

Here is what toxicology tests include, why they take so long, and why they can be tricky.

What is toxicology testing?

The toxicology testing performed after a person's death is known as forensic toxicology testing or postmortem drug testing.

Interesting.

I read that the initial autopsy (that already showed nothing in this case) tests for common drugs of abuse. The forensic toxicology (which is done subsequently) will test for less common poisons. A standard turnaround is 4-6 weeks. 2-3% of cases turn out to be inconclusive.

If it was sleep medication, it should have shown up in the initial autopsy?

I wanna read can you cite your source please?

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/features/the-truth-about-toxicology-tests#1

We must be patient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they commit family annihilation? Makes no sense, and dragging their little girl and their family dog into it. Perhaps if it was the mom, since she had traumatic brain injury, so her thinking was cloudy. Even that makes very little sense. They had everything going for them.

Who knows why anyone does FA?

Some who do FA include the pets too. It’s sick but their thinking is better we all die together.

I just want to weep reading this. I doubt tbi made Chung cloudy. If this was FA my money is on her. Omg the stuff posted o her IG prior to it being locked was awful. Everyone seemed to love John. No one says a word about the mom.

[Anonymous]

Keep in ind FBI and state law enforcement are working this case along with the sheriff. FBI normally don’t partake in heat stroke deaths. And heat related deaths don’t require searches of one’s social media, cars, homes and countless interviews with acquaintances. There is apparently much more going on here than heat strokes.

[Anonymous]

Heartbreaking to think of the little girl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Heartbreaking to think of the little girl.

I think whatever happened, happened quickly to all of them at approximately the same time. So while it's a tragic story, I don't think the little girl was alone for long.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would they commit family annihilation? Makes no sense, and dragging their little girl and their family dog into it. Perhaps if it was the mom, since she had traumatic brain injury, so her thinking was cloudy. Even that makes very little sense. They had everything going for them.

Who knows why anyone does FA?

Some who do FA include the pets too. It’s sick but their thinking is better we all die together.

I just want to weep reading this. I doubt tbi made Chung cloudy. If this was FA my money is on her. Omg the stuff posted o her IG prior to it being locked was awful. Everyone seemed to love John. No one says a word about the mom.

What was awful about her IG posts? How did you even read them if they’re locked?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the dog ran into the poison water, dad went to get it. Mom also got exposed too, but after dad which is why she was farther away. Baby died either from toxin or heat stroke.

I think the dog is key, especially after reading this https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-found-that-a-dangerous-algal-bloom-toxin-can-be-found-in-the-air

Describing it as poison water is way over dramatic. Crazy.

Read the link. That's what they found in the nearby water

The toxin, called anatoxin-a (ATX) or Very Fast Death Factor (no, we're not kidding), does what it says on the tin - kills things fast. If you are unfortunate enough to be exposed it can cause a loss of coordination, paralysis, or death in humans and other animals.

"ATX is one of the more dangerous cyanotoxins produced by harmful algal blooms, which are becoming more predominant in lakes and ponds worldwide due to global warming and climate change," explains first author James Sutherland from the Nantucket Land Council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would they commit family annihilation? Makes no sense, and dragging their little girl and their family dog into it. Perhaps if it was the mom, since she had traumatic brain injury, so her thinking was cloudy. Even that makes very little sense. They had everything going for them.

Who knows why anyone does FA?

Some who do FA include the pets too. It’s sick but their thinking is better we all die together.

I just want to weep reading this. I doubt tbi made Chung cloudy. If this was FA my money is on her. Omg the stuff posted o her IG prior to it being locked was awful. Everyone seemed to love John. No one says a word about the mom.

What was awful about her IG posts? How did you even read them if they’re locked?

Np
I didn’t see anything awful in her IG posts. I looked through it before the family or FBI or whomever closed the account. Her posts were about travel, friends, loved ones. Nothing unusual or awful. Not saying she couldn’t have done FA, but I didn’t get that vibe from her IG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep in ind FBI and state law enforcement are working this case along with the sheriff. FBI normally don’t partake in heat stroke deaths. And heat related deaths don’t require searches of one’s social media, cars, homes and countless interviews with acquaintances. There is apparently much more going on here than heat strokes.

They have to explore all possibilities since no one witnessed it. It could still be heat stroke. So much speculation here.

[Anonymous]

If she was trying to get help, hence found up hill away from others, I'd think she would bring their 1 cell phone. did she? or did they find it on him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would they commit family annihilation? Makes no sense, and dragging their little girl and their family dog into it. Perhaps if it was the mom, since she had traumatic brain injury, so her thinking was cloudy. Even that makes very little sense. They had everything going for them.

Who knows why anyone does FA?

Some who do FA include the pets too. It’s sick but their thinking is better we all die together.

I just want to weep reading this. I doubt tbi made Chung cloudy. If this was FA my money is on her. Omg the stuff posted o her IG prior to it being locked was awful. Everyone seemed to love John. No one says a word about the mom.

What was awful about her IG posts? How did you even read them if they’re locked?

He said prior to it being locked.