DA vs ECNL vs everything else

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McLean's issue is the same as all of the others, it is geographically limited.

Each Northern Virginia club is insular and no one wants to merge or combine or otherwise grow out of its area so as to properly support an actual soccer developmental pyramid.

McLean was an early Boy's DA club and was doing decently because they had the support/backing/urging of the Reimers family. The problem was the whole club didn't support DA, especially when non McLean players started to make the DA team. Boys DA lost overall club support and USSF pulled the plug on them.

My understanding was there was some urging on behalf of the federation for them to merge their DA program with Arlington and maybe another club or two, but egos and the newly formed CCL got in the way.

We are seeing that now on the girls side with the clubs trying to maintain their historic ID and geographic ties, yet compete for the same playerpool.

Dude, you're like super smart. Bravo!

I must add that Mclean was kicked out of BDA because they couldn't meet the USSF standards for facilities, staff, etc.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/mclean-youth-soccer-kicked-out-of-development-academy/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it won't happen...but Mclean really should partner with Spirit.
Leave BRYC and Loudoun as ECNL options

Because the kids in the program could benefit through the partnership.

Put A team in DA.

Put B team in ECNL.

Switch players if need be / or if kids want to opt out of one option over the other.

Instead, it becomes a power struggle for talent and neither club will fully win out causing weaker teams.

Isn't this already what is happening naturally? Clubs can't control where their players move. Partnerships are just marketing gimmicks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it won't happen...but Mclean really should partner with Spirit.
Leave BRYC and Loudoun as ECNL options

Because the kids in the program could benefit through the partnership.

Put A team in DA.

Put B team in ECNL.

Switch players if need be / or if kids want to opt out of one option over the other.

Instead, it becomes a power struggle for talent and neither club will fully win out causing weaker teams.

Isn't this already what is happening naturally? Clubs can't control where their players move. Partnerships are just marketing gimmicks.

ECNL is forcing clubs to choose. They do not want to be the clubs B team.

[Anonymous]

What they want is irrelevant. They are slowing it down, but the shift is inevitable. I understand their perspective. It costs them control, which costs them money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it won't happen...but Mclean really should partner with Spirit.
Leave BRYC and Loudoun as ECNL options

Because the kids in the program could benefit through the partnership.

Put A team in DA.

Put B team in ECNL.

Switch players if need be / or if kids want to opt out of one option over the other.

Instead, it becomes a power struggle for talent and neither club will fully win out causing weaker teams.

Isn't this already what is happening naturally? Clubs can't control where their players move. Partnerships are just marketing gimmicks.

ECNL is forcing clubs to choose. They do not want to be the clubs B team.

I meant players will go to the DA and the ones that don't will stay ECNL. How would a partnership between McLean and WS have any effect on what's probably happening already?

[Anonymous]

Has anyone been going to the Mclean ECNL tryouts? - I heard it is just existing players from Mclean.

No Arlington, Great Falls, Fairfax, etc. this year --

Any one on this board go whose player is not actually already a member of the club?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone been going to the Mclean ECNL tryouts? - I heard it is just existing players from Mclean.

No Arlington, Great Falls, Fairfax, etc. this year --

Any one on this board go whose player is not actually already a member of the club?

Depends on what age group you are talking about. At older ages, those ecnl teams are well set. Younger ages had a pretty good turnout from neighboring clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know it won't happen...but Mclean really should partner with Spirit.
Leave BRYC and Loudoun as ECNL options

Because the kids in the program could benefit through the partnership.

Put A team in DA.

Put B team in ECNL.

Switch players if need be / or if kids want to opt out of one option over the other.

Instead, it becomes a power struggle for talent and neither club will fully win out causing weaker teams.

Isn't this already what is happening naturally? Clubs can't control where their players move. Partnerships are just marketing gimmicks.

ECNL is forcing clubs to choose. They do not want to be the clubs B team.

I meant players will go to the DA and the ones that don't will stay ECNL. How would a partnership between McLean and WS have any effect on what's probably happening already?

Because they have to be the same club for kids in ECNL to even be a DP for the DA squad. ECNL would revoke the ECNL slot from McLean if such a partnership would exist. If it worked that way then FCV would have simply tried to transfer their ECNL status to Loudoun when they "Merged" for last year.

And then if the partnership doesn't work out McLean lost ECNL for nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only saw about half of Mclean's current 05 ECNL (and green) girls at try-outs. Rumor mill says they are going Arlington, Spirit, VDA. Also, hard to tell with Mclean who is staying & going since players are asked to attend try-outs regardless of their plans for next year.

oohh weeee. This is going to be interesting.

So what's the scoop on those 05s? Friend's DD plays there, but they're not giving up any info.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure I will get a lot of "poopoo's" for this, but I would like to see a tiered system like some European countries have. Let there be a DP league across the US, and then players can move vertically up and down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure I will get a lot of "poopoo's" for this, but I would like to see a tiered system like some European countries have. Let there be a DP league across the US, and then players can move vertically up and down.

Haha. Can't extract as many dollars in such a sytem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure I will get a lot of "poopoo's" for this, but I would like to see a tiered system like some European countries have. Let there be a DP league across the US, and then players can move vertically up and down.

Haha. Can't extract as many dollars in such a sytem.

Why not? Same number of players in this fantasy.

[Anonymous]

And Eclipse leaves the DA as well so they can focus on developing girls properly in the top league in the country.

More to come....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Eclipse leaves the DA as well so they can focus on developing girls properly in the top league in the country.

More to come....

Maybe 1 or 2 more. But even with all that, there are still significantly more clubs that have or will leave the ECNL for the DA.

But by all means, have another glass of Kool aid.

[Anonymous]

Eclipse was originally listed on the All in list like a month ago, but then it was removed. So I for one knew it was coming for a while. I expect it was removed for shock value by having a couple of clubs a week to make it *feel* like it's a mass exodus. Meanwhile, the ECNL lost CA and TX - historically and currently the largest talent pool in the country.