ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

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It takes less time to jump backwards than it does to unholster a weapon, aim, and shoot -- plus it means you are no longer in the path of what may now be an uncontrolled vehicle.

Shooting doesn't make sense as a defense.

He was panicked and acted within a split second.

And proceeded to murder her through the driver side window.

Not all killing is murder.

But this most definitely is.

Why are you so adamant to stand by this guy. Who's already been in two troubling altercations. Clearly he's a bad dude. Anyone who says "you effing b----" after shooting her 3 times is murder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this would be going better for the admin if ICE wasn’t regularly doing terrible stuff. Nationally they aren’t respected anymore.

I don't think so...his own phone footage shows her saying to him "I'm not mad at you, dude" with a huge smile. Then he shoots her and as her car veers off because she's been shot in the face 3x (while her foot was on the gas) he calls after her "you fuccking biiitch."

This violence stands alone. It was cold blooded murder against a woman he decided instantaneously he didn't like and wanted power over.

People who smile at you and say "I'm not mad" are not a threat. Period. The end.

I would be saying much worse than that about someone who had tried to block me in.

She said it with major attitude, while her wife was simultaneously insulting him. And I'm sure they said much ruder things prior to this video. Keep in mind these are two people who intentionally used their car to block these officers in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She literally said ‘I am not mad at you’ seconds before he blew her head off. How does that show she is ‘unhinged’

She said it in a very snide tone. But honestly, I think her wife is the once who escalated it and holds most of the responsibility. How stupid can you be to block in law enforcement and then belittle and insult them?

Hey, I'm a doctor, and I get a lot more than that in the ER many days. If someone spits in my face AND belittles and insults me, is it still professional for me to choke them out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She literally said ‘I am not mad at you’ seconds before he blew her head off. How does that show she is ‘unhinged’

She said it in a very snide tone. But honestly, I think her wife is the once who escalated it and holds most of the responsibility. How stupid can you be to block in law enforcement and then belittle and insult them?

Her wife's mouth and attitude was sufficient justification for Ross to use lethal force against someone else? Please explain that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She went there with the intent to use her 3 ton SUV to block ICE vehicles.

With a gun in the backseat. Just a peaceful protester.

I thought you people loved guns. I don't get you at all.

[Anonymous]

I guess I will have to agree to disagree with the posters who think she was intentionally trying to run him over. Nothing in the video suggests to me that was in such a state of mind. To me, it seems like she just wants to get out of there and be on her way, and then for a split second she panics and applies the gas. (Which is not ideal but kind of understandable in that situation).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this would be going better for the admin if ICE wasn’t regularly doing terrible stuff. Nationally they aren’t respected anymore.

I don't think so...his own phone footage shows her saying to him "I'm not mad at you, dude" with a huge smile. Then he shoots her and as her car veers off because she's been shot in the face 3x (while her foot was on the gas) he calls after her "you fuccking biiitch."

This violence stands alone. It was cold blooded murder against a woman he decided instantaneously he didn't like and wanted power over.

People who smile at you and say "I'm not mad" are not a threat. Period. The end.

I would be saying much worse than that about someone who had tried to block me in.

And if you fired a gun at them you’d be in jail, not whisked away to the hospital for a band-aid and a lollipop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this would be going better for the admin if ICE wasn’t regularly doing terrible stuff. Nationally they aren’t respected anymore.

I don't think so...his own phone footage shows her saying to him "I'm not mad at you, dude" with a huge smile. Then he shoots her and as her car veers off because she's been shot in the face 3x (while her foot was on the gas) he calls after her "you fuccking biiitch."

This violence stands alone. It was cold blooded murder against a woman he decided instantaneously he didn't like and wanted power over.

People who smile at you and say "I'm not mad" are not a threat. Period. The end.

I would be saying much worse than that about someone who had tried to block me in.

She said it with major attitude, while her wife was simultaneously insulting him. And I'm sure they said much ruder things prior to this video. Keep in mind these are two people who intentionally used their car to block these officers in.

You don't know much about the law if you think this justifies murder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this would be going better for the admin if ICE wasn’t regularly doing terrible stuff. Nationally they aren’t respected anymore.

I don't think so...his own phone footage shows her saying to him "I'm not mad at you, dude" with a huge smile. Then he shoots her and as her car veers off because she's been shot in the face 3x (while her foot was on the gas) he calls after her "you fuccking biiitch."

This violence stands alone. It was cold blooded murder against a woman he decided instantaneously he didn't like and wanted power over.

People who smile at you and say "I'm not mad" are not a threat. Period. The end.

I would be saying much worse than that about someone who had tried to block me in.

She said it with major attitude, while her wife was simultaneously insulting him. And I'm sure they said much ruder things prior to this video. Keep in mind these are two people who intentionally used their car to block these officers in.

I get that this is a message board so these kind of irrelevant, stupid posts don't matter...but these aren't the arguments that his defense attorney would make.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She literally said ‘I am not mad at you’ seconds before he blew her head off. How does that show she is ‘unhinged’

She said it in a very snide tone. But honestly, I think her wife is the once who escalated it and holds most of the responsibility. How stupid can you be to block in law enforcement and then belittle and insult them?

How many times do we need to go over this? She was NOT blocking anyone. She was literally waving cars on. Because ICE is in unmarked vehicles, she waved one on and it easily passed. She waved the next one on and it was full of ICE goons who jumped out and stormed her car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine that mom having custody of all the kids

Well she’s dead now. Hope you’re happy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She literally said ‘I am not mad at you’ seconds before he blew her head off. How does that show she is ‘unhinged’

She said it in a very snide tone. But honestly, I think her wife is the once who escalated it and holds most of the responsibility. How stupid can you be to block in law enforcement and then belittle and insult them?

If a law enforcement officer's response to insults is to pull out a gun he isn't qualified to do the job.

No if you watch the video. The video of the front angle of the car, you can see the she came within inches of hitting him. That was what he was responding to. The fact that he was probably already pissed as sh** at her, as anyone who was treated with such derision would be, certainly didn't help matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this would be going better for the admin if ICE wasn’t regularly doing terrible stuff. Nationally they aren’t respected anymore.

I don't think so...his own phone footage shows her saying to him "I'm not mad at you, dude" with a huge smile. Then he shoots her and as her car veers off because she's been shot in the face 3x (while her foot was on the gas) he calls after her "you fuccking biiitch."

This violence stands alone. It was cold blooded murder against a woman he decided instantaneously he didn't like and wanted power over.

People who smile at you and say "I'm not mad" are not a threat. Period. The end.

I would be saying much worse than that about someone who had tried to block me in.

She said it with major attitude, while her wife was simultaneously insulting him. And I'm sure they said much ruder things prior to this video. Keep in mind these are two people who intentionally used their car to block these officers in.

When a retail worker gets major attitude while being simultaneously insulted, how lethal can they get in response, professionally speaking? Can a hotel front desk worker hit someone in the face with a vase, or do they have to use something heavier?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess I will have to agree to disagree with the posters who think she was intentionally trying to run him over. Nothing in the video suggests to me that was in such a state of mind. To me, it seems like she just wants to get out of there and be on her way, and then for a split second she panics and applies the gas. (Which is not ideal but kind of understandable in that situation).

We can all see this with our own eyes. We see her joking with him and then he shoots her. Every single video has shown the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this would be going better for the admin if ICE wasn’t regularly doing terrible stuff. Nationally they aren’t respected anymore.

I don't think so...his own phone footage shows her saying to him "I'm not mad at you, dude" with a huge smile. Then he shoots her and as her car veers off because she's been shot in the face 3x (while her foot was on the gas) he calls after her "you fuccking biiitch."

This violence stands alone. It was cold blooded murder against a woman he decided instantaneously he didn't like and wanted power over.

People who smile at you and say "I'm not mad" are not a threat. Period. The end.

I would be saying much worse than that about someone who had tried to block me in.

She said it with major attitude, while her wife was simultaneously insulting him. And I'm sure they said much ruder things prior to this video. Keep in mind these are two people who intentionally used their car to block these officers in.

My friend teaches teenagers with behavioral issues. She's had chairs thrown at her and gets called names all the time. So by your logic she can just shoot them??