The White Lotus season 2

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the connection next season will be Albie and Portia going on vacation together as a dating couple.

I don’t think Greg will be the connection because I don’t think that character is interesting or charismatic enough to make people want to watch again. He only came along this season because of Tanya.

I like the idea of Portia coming back because she’s not rich herself, so I think watching her navigate being privileged by proxy would be interesting. Also, if the theme is religion/spirituality, I really like the idea of having the through line be the Gen Z characters because I’m really curious how they would think about those things.

I hope it’s some kind of super fancy spiritual retreat/spa in Southeast Asia. I think this would enable them to return to a theme from season one (how these places exploit local cultureand people for their rich patrons) that I’d like to see more of.


Greg will definitely be the connection. Mike White confirmed the next season will be out death and religion (Greg still has terminal cancer). Also, some rumors have been floating around that they've started filming WL3 in Japan. It just makes sense


Will Sharpe (actor who played Ethan) is half Japanese. Not assuming that would be the connection, but we previously watched him in Giri/Haji where he spoke Japanese in some scenes. I would be interested to see the storyline of the two couples and their resentments and shared dynamics continue. However, I doubt much of anything has been determined just yet and I would also love to see a new cast and storyline play out.


Same, but I am guessing that there will only be 1 person repeating. Part of the genius of this show is meeting new characters and trying to figure them out - what makes them tick, why they are the way they are, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.


I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start


Totally agree. I also don't get the sense that Harper is anywhere near as enthralled with having the "big" money they now have. It sounds like she grew up working class in Puerto Rico and is still very tight with her family there (if they spent their honeymoon there). She's now a lawyer at a large firm which gives her financial security plus plenty of the nice things in life -- cute clothes, vacations. I think Harper would be happy with her UMC lifestyle and nothing more.

But the thing about Daphne/Cameron that did provoke jealousy was how affectionate they are and how much fun they seem to be having. I do actually think that Harper was right about them in some ways. We see at different times that to some degree, that is a show they put on for themselves and others. We know that Daphne definitely has some strong negative feelings about the cheating and also just how absent her husband sometimes is, but she finds different ways to bury them down deep and enjoy the good stuff about her marriage. And that scene with Cam flossing indicates that he's got some of his own issues that he does a very good job of glossing over.

My personal opinion is that this will work out for a Daphne/Cam couple for a while but that eventually it won't anymore. My experience in life is that at some point you have to deal with the stuff underneath, no matter how good you get at shoving it down. It will happen when you are no longer quite so young and hot and you don't command the same attention you used to, or when your career takes an unfortunate left turn, or when your kids get older and need you less, or when your parents die, or when you get sick or injured and have to confront your own mortality. I've seen it happen many times. Cam and Daphne have worked something out. For now.


Haha! Harper is an attorney, you can't trust attorneys from the get-go. Spare me her practicing specialty, she knows most of those workplace lawsuits are bullsh*t shake downs. Harper admits to giving her husband's money to her family. Harper admits she wants to launch a non-profit foundation. How do you make a splash in the foundation world? Big money. Her ~ $300k law firm income isn't big money. Late 30s Harper is also yearning for a baby before she's barren. Tick-tock. Harper and Ethan are not attracted to each other, they're just using each other out of convenience. He's an autistic loner, addicted to porn, and deeply weird around women; she needs a deep-pocketed meek husband who can fund her foundation desires and lift her extended family out of poverty and impregnate her to set her for life. She is fully aware at this point without kids, this could be a starter marriage the rich husband could immediately walk away from. And then she's just another rapidly aging, increasingly infertile single lawyer approaching 40. But it's humorous how most viewers are so drawn to Aubrey Plaza, the actress, they don't see what a conniving shyster lawyer she is. She's Megan Markle and Lauren Sanchez with a law degree.


Wow, what female attorney hurt you. This is insane and has no basis in the show


So Harper is just an altruistic corporate lawyer? Imagine believing this nonsense. She's a corporate shake-down artist. She's in a sexless marriage with an autistic weirdo because HE'S FILTHY RICH, period.


1) she’s a plaintiff side employment lawyer. That’s the opposite of a corporate lawyer. 2) She was with him before she sold the company. Divorcing and taking her half would make a lot of sense for her but she wants to save her marriage.

I’m sorry that you hate women but the creators of this show don’t, which is why you’re so completely out to lunch on these interpretations.
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Anonymous wrote:It could be Tanya who dies. The last scene with her getting it in with that hot drug dealer, they are playing opera music. Earlier in the show, Portia asks her how was the opera and she said she died at the end.

I think the gays will blackmail her to give them money so they don’t tell her husband about the cheating but accidentally she’ll fall into the ocean like the woman did.


Gosh I am a genius. I made this post it a few weeks ago. I got everything right but the cheating part. I also asked multiple times on this thread, the only one who asked, where is Greg? He was supposed to return in only two days and he was gone all week.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.


I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start


lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.


She didn’t humiliate him at all. In fact she lied about their sex life to protect his ego (said it was great when actually he won’t have sex with her).
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Anonymous wrote:It could be Tanya who dies. The last scene with her getting it in with that hot drug dealer, they are playing opera music. Earlier in the show, Portia asks her how was the opera and she said she died at the end.

I think the gays will blackmail her to give them money so they don’t tell her husband about the cheating but accidentally she’ll fall into the ocean like the woman did.


Gosh I am a genius. I made this post it a few weeks ago. I got everything right but the cheating part. I also asked multiple times on this thread, the only one who asked, where is Greg? He was supposed to return in only two days and he was gone all week.


There were many of us who thought the gays were in cahoots with Greg running a scam. That said, I give you props on falling into the ocean
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It is interesting how so many viewers think Harper is just another Aubrey Plaza sarcastic witty character they love no matter what, so they refuse to consider any ulterior motives. She's just a low-key ball breaking corporate lawyer from Puerto Rican poverty, who just randomly met a rich Yale boy who founded a multi-billion (?) tech company. She is not at all attracted to prestige or money! She's above that! And she totally doesn't fear her billionaire net worth (or at least hundreds of millions) husband whom she has no children with and she doesn't have sex with could leave her like presumably the dozens of other starter marriages she's seen fail around her in the last 10 or so years. Harper is a good person!
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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.


I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start


lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.


Bullying and humiliating him? What are you talking about? Because she didn't act fun with his douchey friends?

Also, the majority of tech guys never make it big - they are comfortable but not multi-millionaires. He was far from an NBA prospect

This is weird projection IMO and you have issues with women


Harper repeatedly bullied and humiliated her husband publicly and was cruel and passive-aggressive to his college friend(s) as soon as she met them. My husband's a porn addict, my husband won't impregnate me, my husband won't have sex with me, my husband is addicted to work. She disclosed all of this to people she just met. Oh she did it in a "sarcastic" way; yeah right, that's what cruel people hide behind as they're bullying you. Then when she heard Cam was the alpha dog going back 20 years creeping around Ethan's crushes, which made Ethan deeply insecure, she used that to her advantage to push more of her husband's buttons. She was psychologically messing with his head the entire trip. Ethan was Harper's mark, Ethan was also Cameron/Daphney's mark.


You... aren't watching the show? Harper never complains that her husband won't give her kids, and in fact she looks embarrassed when Ethan starts rambling about how they never have sex because of their schedules, like she would prefer he not share this with these people. She's only bothered by the porn because he expresses so little interest in her sexually, which is a completely valid complaint for someone to have about their spouse. And she expresses this stuff to Ethan, not to Cam and Daphne! She makes a couple little jokey asides with them (referring to his morning runs "that's what I'm dealing with") but she's not complaining about him to them. She stays guarded with Daphne through the entire trip to Noto and never says an unkind thing about Ethan except to express concern that the money might change him.

She rarely turns her sarcasm on Ethan and mostly uses it to ridicule Cam and Daphne, who she dislikes immediately. It's clear she was never enthusiastic about coming on this vacation with them and she lets that show. But as we learn over the course of the season, Ethan's reasons for doing it have little to do with how much affection he has for Cameron as a friend and everything to do with one-upping him or proving that he's better now. None of which he shares with Harper who is just in the dark and wondering why they are spending what appears to be a rare break from work with people who are so fundamentally different from them. I would also be annoyed and confused about this. Though I guess it works out in the end.
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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.


I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start


lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.


She didn’t humiliate him at all. In fact she lied about their sex life to protect his ego (said it was great when actually he won’t have sex with her).


That was transparent thinly veiled posturing. Cam and Daphne obviously didn't believe that and changed the subject.
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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.


I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start


Totally agree. I also don't get the sense that Harper is anywhere near as enthralled with having the "big" money they now have. It sounds like she grew up working class in Puerto Rico and is still very tight with her family there (if they spent their honeymoon there). She's now a lawyer at a large firm which gives her financial security plus plenty of the nice things in life -- cute clothes, vacations. I think Harper would be happy with her UMC lifestyle and nothing more.

But the thing about Daphne/Cameron that did provoke jealousy was how affectionate they are and how much fun they seem to be having. I do actually think that Harper was right about them in some ways. We see at different times that to some degree, that is a show they put on for themselves and others. We know that Daphne definitely has some strong negative feelings about the cheating and also just how absent her husband sometimes is, but she finds different ways to bury them down deep and enjoy the good stuff about her marriage. And that scene with Cam flossing indicates that he's got some of his own issues that he does a very good job of glossing over.

My personal opinion is that this will work out for a Daphne/Cam couple for a while but that eventually it won't anymore. My experience in life is that at some point you have to deal with the stuff underneath, no matter how good you get at shoving it down. It will happen when you are no longer quite so young and hot and you don't command the same attention you used to, or when your career takes an unfortunate left turn, or when your kids get older and need you less, or when your parents die, or when you get sick or injured and have to confront your own mortality. I've seen it happen many times. Cam and Daphne have worked something out. For now.


Haha! Harper is an attorney, you can't trust attorneys from the get-go. Spare me her practicing specialty, she knows most of those workplace lawsuits are bullsh*t shake downs. Harper admits to giving her husband's money to her family. Harper admits she wants to launch a non-profit foundation. How do you make a splash in the foundation world? Big money. Her ~ $300k law firm income isn't big money. Late 30s Harper is also yearning for a baby before she's barren. Tick-tock. Harper and Ethan are not attracted to each other, they're just using each other out of convenience. He's an autistic loner, addicted to porn, and deeply weird around women; she needs a deep-pocketed meek husband who can fund her foundation desires and lift her extended family out of poverty and impregnate her to set her for life. She is fully aware at this point without kids, this could be a starter marriage the rich husband could immediately walk away from. And then she's just another rapidly aging, increasingly infertile single lawyer approaching 40. But it's humorous how most viewers are so drawn to Aubrey Plaza, the actress, they don't see what a conniving shyster lawyer she is. She's Megan Markle and Lauren Sanchez with a law degree.


Wow, what female attorney hurt you. This is insane and has no basis in the show


So Harper is just an altruistic corporate lawyer? Imagine believing this nonsense. She's a corporate shake-down artist. She's in a sexless marriage with an autistic weirdo because HE'S FILTHY RICH, period.


1) she’s a plaintiff side employment lawyer. That’s the opposite of a corporate lawyer. 2) She was with him before she sold the company. Divorcing and taking her half would make a lot of sense for her but she wants to save her marriage.

I’m sorry that you hate women but the creators of this show don’t, which is why you’re so completely out to lunch on these interpretations.


Yeah this person clearly has a negative view of women and is trying to project that onto Harper. There's no basis to think she a scam artist and Ethan was a "mark." There is every indication that they had a pretty normal marriage
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting how so many viewers think Harper is just another Aubrey Plaza sarcastic witty character they love no matter what, so they refuse to consider any ulterior motives. She's just a low-key ball breaking corporate lawyer from Puerto Rican poverty, who just randomly met a rich Yale boy who founded a multi-billion (?) tech company. She is not at all attracted to prestige or money! She's above that! And she totally doesn't fear her billionaire net worth (or at least hundreds of millions) husband whom she has no children with and she doesn't have sex with could leave her like presumably the dozens of other starter marriages she's seen fail around her in the last 10 or so years. Harper is a good person!


She.is.not.a.corporate.lawyer.
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Anonymous wrote:It is interesting how so many viewers think Harper is just another Aubrey Plaza sarcastic witty character they love no matter what, so they refuse to consider any ulterior motives. She's just a low-key ball breaking corporate lawyer from Puerto Rican poverty, who just randomly met a rich Yale boy who founded a multi-billion (?) tech company. She is not at all attracted to prestige or money! She's above that! And she totally doesn't fear her billionaire net worth (or at least hundreds of millions) husband whom she has no children with and she doesn't have sex with could leave her like presumably the dozens of other starter marriages she's seen fail around her in the last 10 or so years. Harper is a good person!


Omg, stop with this
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.


I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start


Totally agree. I also don't get the sense that Harper is anywhere near as enthralled with having the "big" money they now have. It sounds like she grew up working class in Puerto Rico and is still very tight with her family there (if they spent their honeymoon there). She's now a lawyer at a large firm which gives her financial security plus plenty of the nice things in life -- cute clothes, vacations. I think Harper would be happy with her UMC lifestyle and nothing more.

But the thing about Daphne/Cameron that did provoke jealousy was how affectionate they are and how much fun they seem to be having. I do actually think that Harper was right about them in some ways. We see at different times that to some degree, that is a show they put on for themselves and others. We know that Daphne definitely has some strong negative feelings about the cheating and also just how absent her husband sometimes is, but she finds different ways to bury them down deep and enjoy the good stuff about her marriage. And that scene with Cam flossing indicates that he's got some of his own issues that he does a very good job of glossing over.

My personal opinion is that this will work out for a Daphne/Cam couple for a while but that eventually it won't anymore. My experience in life is that at some point you have to deal with the stuff underneath, no matter how good you get at shoving it down. It will happen when you are no longer quite so young and hot and you don't command the same attention you used to, or when your career takes an unfortunate left turn, or when your kids get older and need you less, or when your parents die, or when you get sick or injured and have to confront your own mortality. I've seen it happen many times. Cam and Daphne have worked something out. For now.


Haha! Harper is an attorney, you can't trust attorneys from the get-go. Spare me her practicing specialty, she knows most of those workplace lawsuits are bullsh*t shake downs. Harper admits to giving her husband's money to her family. Harper admits she wants to launch a non-profit foundation. How do you make a splash in the foundation world? Big money. Her ~ $300k law firm income isn't big money. Late 30s Harper is also yearning for a baby before she's barren. Tick-tock. Harper and Ethan are not attracted to each other, they're just using each other out of convenience. He's an autistic loner, addicted to porn, and deeply weird around women; she needs a deep-pocketed meek husband who can fund her foundation desires and lift her extended family out of poverty and impregnate her to set her for life. She is fully aware at this point without kids, this could be a starter marriage the rich husband could immediately walk away from. And then she's just another rapidly aging, increasingly infertile single lawyer approaching 40. But it's humorous how most viewers are so drawn to Aubrey Plaza, the actress, they don't see what a conniving shyster lawyer she is. She's Megan Markle and Lauren Sanchez with a law degree.


Wow, what female attorney hurt you. This is insane and has no basis in the show


I think the PP's rantings are just Phase 2 of Ethan/Albie is the same person. Ignore them.
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Anonymous wrote:Portia is a terrible user and dim. She doesn't deserve Albie.


They deserve each other, both morons 😂


I don’t think Albie is a moron at all. He very calculatingly threw his mother under the bus. He is willing to lie to her face about how the vacation went for his dad, in order to get some money for his hookup.


Albie didn't know that his father slept with Lucia, so he wasn't really lying since his father did have some moments of self-examination and clarity.


I agree - I think was Albie was willing to compromise himself to get the money for Lucia, but it wasn't just a cold lie

I actually thought it was sort of odd that he said Lucia "played" him in the end. She did, and the viewers know that, but he didn't necessarily know that she didn't have a pimp she needed to pay off, right? He was leaving that day anyway. If she had spent the morning with him and made some vague promise to come to LA sometime, would that have been what he wanted?
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I really liked the season and the ending. I have so many unanswered questions though. Top ones (please feel free to give your answer if you think you know or have a good guess)

1) Why did Ethan not want to have sex with Harper?

2) Did Ethan/Daphne have sex, and did Harper/Cam have sex? (I lean yes on the first and no sex but making out and intending to have sex on the second)

3) Is there really a trainer, and is he the father of one or both of Daphne's kids? In one episode didn't she talk about getting infertility treatments for one of her kids?

4) Why didn't "the gays" kill Tanya much sooner? Why have that guy have sex with her at the party?
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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.


I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start


Totally agree. I also don't get the sense that Harper is anywhere near as enthralled with having the "big" money they now have. It sounds like she grew up working class in Puerto Rico and is still very tight with her family there (if they spent their honeymoon there). She's now a lawyer at a large firm which gives her financial security plus plenty of the nice things in life -- cute clothes, vacations. I think Harper would be happy with her UMC lifestyle and nothing more.

But the thing about Daphne/Cameron that did provoke jealousy was how affectionate they are and how much fun they seem to be having. I do actually think that Harper was right about them in some ways. We see at different times that to some degree, that is a show they put on for themselves and others. We know that Daphne definitely has some strong negative feelings about the cheating and also just how absent her husband sometimes is, but she finds different ways to bury them down deep and enjoy the good stuff about her marriage. And that scene with Cam flossing indicates that he's got some of his own issues that he does a very good job of glossing over.

My personal opinion is that this will work out for a Daphne/Cam couple for a while but that eventually it won't anymore. My experience in life is that at some point you have to deal with the stuff underneath, no matter how good you get at shoving it down. It will happen when you are no longer quite so young and hot and you don't command the same attention you used to, or when your career takes an unfortunate left turn, or when your kids get older and need you less, or when your parents die, or when you get sick or injured and have to confront your own mortality. I've seen it happen many times. Cam and Daphne have worked something out. For now.


Haha! Harper is an attorney, you can't trust attorneys from the get-go. Spare me her practicing specialty, she knows most of those workplace lawsuits are bullsh*t shake downs. Harper admits to giving her husband's money to her family. Harper admits she wants to launch a non-profit foundation. How do you make a splash in the foundation world? Big money. Her ~ $300k law firm income isn't big money. Late 30s Harper is also yearning for a baby before she's barren. Tick-tock. Harper and Ethan are not attracted to each other, they're just using each other out of convenience. He's an autistic loner, addicted to porn, and deeply weird around women; she needs a deep-pocketed meek husband who can fund her foundation desires and lift her extended family out of poverty and impregnate her to set her for life. She is fully aware at this point without kids, this could be a starter marriage the rich husband could immediately walk away from. And then she's just another rapidly aging, increasingly infertile single lawyer approaching 40. But it's humorous how most viewers are so drawn to Aubrey Plaza, the actress, they don't see what a conniving shyster lawyer she is. She's Megan Markle and Lauren Sanchez with a law degree.


Wow, what female attorney hurt you. This is insane and has no basis in the show


So Harper is just an altruistic corporate lawyer? Imagine believing this nonsense. She's a corporate shake-down artist. She's in a sexless marriage with an autistic weirdo because HE'S FILTHY RICH, period.


1) she’s a plaintiff side employment lawyer. That’s the opposite of a corporate lawyer. 2) She was with him before she sold the company. Divorcing and taking her half would make a lot of sense for her but she wants to save her marriage.

I’m sorry that you hate women but the creators of this show don’t, which is why you’re so completely out to lunch on these interpretations.


Harper didn't hang a shingle. There was a line in episode 1 or 2 that "Harper's a star at her firm." Large corporate firms have talent with niche focuses including labour, employment; discrimination, sexual harassment, whistleblowing. These can be multi-million settlements, if not sometimes class action status reaching into the eight figures.
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