The White Lotus season 2

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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

Totally agree. I also don't get the sense that Harper is anywhere near as enthralled with having the "big" money they now have. It sounds like she grew up working class in Puerto Rico and is still very tight with her family there (if they spent their honeymoon there). She's now a lawyer at a large firm which gives her financial security plus plenty of the nice things in life -- cute clothes, vacations. I think Harper would be happy with her UMC lifestyle and nothing more.

But the thing about Daphne/Cameron that did provoke jealousy was how affectionate they are and how much fun they seem to be having. I do actually think that Harper was right about them in some ways. We see at different times that to some degree, that is a show they put on for themselves and others. We know that Daphne definitely has some strong negative feelings about the cheating and also just how absent her husband sometimes is, but she finds different ways to bury them down deep and enjoy the good stuff about her marriage. And that scene with Cam flossing indicates that he's got some of his own issues that he does a very good job of glossing over.

My personal opinion is that this will work out for a Daphne/Cam couple for a while but that eventually it won't anymore. My experience in life is that at some point you have to deal with the stuff underneath, no matter how good you get at shoving it down. It will happen when you are no longer quite so young and hot and you don't command the same attention you used to, or when your career takes an unfortunate left turn, or when your kids get older and need you less, or when your parents die, or when you get sick or injured and have to confront your own mortality. I've seen it happen many times. Cam and Daphne have worked something out. For now.

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Some great analysis about the show and characters. I was in the camp that found the characters hard to warm to in the beginning but they gradually few on me.

Generally satisfied with the ending and the way they resolved tensions and plot twists.

However the two young hookers playing Alvie to get $50k euros , playing Valentina to get piano gig, beinf best friends with the hotel
Doorman who pretended to be an abusive pimp and being best friends with each other is not credible.

Sex trafficking of teen girls is a huge world wide problem and no less so here in the DMV. Not really comfortable with showing the young hookers as getting out of all their exploits with zero complications or actual dangers.

Mike White said he conceived of that plot line as basically Laverne & Shirley, with these two girls trying to con their way into parties to which they were not invited, and you route for them because they are funny and good hearted and have a good attitude. And that's basically what they were.

I think my favorite storyline wound up being Mia and Valentina, and I wish we could have seen Mia taking Valentina out to the clubs to meet her hot lesbian friends. I really liked that the season starts out with Valentina angrily trying to throw the girls out of the hotel and only reluctantly letting them stay when Dom intervenes, only for them to ultimately be exactly what Valentina needs to change her life for the better.

I also think people got too hung up on the "rules" of season one, which was more explicitly about class, and assumed that all the rich people would again get away with everything and the hotel staff or low SES characters would pay the prices, as in the first season. But this season was about sex, and the power of sex, and while in the long run Mia and Portia are unlikely to come out ahead, this season did show how being young and beautiful and willing to exploit sex for your own gains can pay off. For now.

That definitely made me get most of my predictions wrong. I did not think Tanya would die, and I definitely did not think things were going to work out perfectly for Mia/Valentina

It is definitely a very sunny portrayal of prostitution. Not saying prostitution is always terrible, but a situation like that (happy, independent, well-adjusted women getting what they need by manipulating men) is probably one in a million. That storyline reminded me that this show was written by a man

Agreed. Also the hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold-and-no-stis is such a boring trope, even if the actresses did a great job with it.

Jack's story was actually a much more realistic portrayal of prostitution

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^
Some great analysis about the show and characters. I was in the camp that found the characters hard to warm to in the beginning but they gradually few on me.

Generally satisfied with the ending and the way they resolved tensions and plot twists.

However the two young hookers playing Alvie to get $50k euros , playing Valentina to get piano gig, beinf best friends with the hotel
Doorman who pretended to be an abusive pimp and being best friends with each other is not credible.

Sex trafficking of teen girls is a huge world wide problem and no less so here in the DMV. Not really comfortable with showing the young hookers as getting out of all their exploits with zero complications or actual dangers.

Mike White said he conceived of that plot line as basically Laverne & Shirley, with these two girls trying to con their way into parties to which they were not invited, and you route for them because they are funny and good hearted and have a good attitude. And that's basically what they were.

I think my favorite storyline wound up being Mia and Valentina, and I wish we could have seen Mia taking Valentina out to the clubs to meet her hot lesbian friends. I really liked that the season starts out with Valentina angrily trying to throw the girls out of the hotel and only reluctantly letting them stay when Dom intervenes, only for them to ultimately be exactly what Valentina needs to change her life for the better.

I also think people got too hung up on the "rules" of season one, which was more explicitly about class, and assumed that all the rich people would again get away with everything and the hotel staff or low SES characters would pay the prices, as in the first season. But this season was about sex, and the power of sex, and while in the long run Mia and Portia are unlikely to come out ahead, this season did show how being young and beautiful and willing to exploit sex for your own gains can pay off. For now.

That definitely made me get most of my predictions wrong. I did not think Tanya would die, and I definitely did not think things were going to work out perfectly for Mia/Valentina

It is definitely a very sunny portrayal of prostitution. Not saying prostitution is always terrible, but a situation like that (happy, independent, well-adjusted women getting what they need by manipulating men) is probably one in a million. That storyline reminded me that this show was written by a man

I disagree because I think the trope about how prostitutes, and beautiful young women generally, always get "punished" for the sin of profiting off sex was written by men to begin with. I'm not a big fan of prostitution or anything, but I absolutely know enough about history to know that men in positions of power within churches and government have long sought to convince young women that they should not utilize their sexuality for their own ends. That this is immoral or damning. That it victimizes them. But really it's just that weak old men recognize that like the DiGrasso men, they all have "Achilles dicks" and that if hot young women figure this out, they are in trouble.

I did not find Mike White's take on this to be misogynist or unrealistic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^^
Some great analysis about the show and characters. I was in the camp that found the characters hard to warm to in the beginning but they gradually few on me.

Generally satisfied with the ending and the way they resolved tensions and plot twists.

However the two young hookers playing Alvie to get $50k euros , playing Valentina to get piano gig, beinf best friends with the hotel
Doorman who pretended to be an abusive pimp and being best friends with each other is not credible.

Sex trafficking of teen girls is a huge world wide problem and no less so here in the DMV. Not really comfortable with showing the young hookers as getting out of all their exploits with zero complications or actual dangers.

Mike White said he conceived of that plot line as basically Laverne & Shirley, with these two girls trying to con their way into parties to which they were not invited, and you route for them because they are funny and good hearted and have a good attitude. And that's basically what they were.

I think my favorite storyline wound up being Mia and Valentina, and I wish we could have seen Mia taking Valentina out to the clubs to meet her hot lesbian friends. I really liked that the season starts out with Valentina angrily trying to throw the girls out of the hotel and only reluctantly letting them stay when Dom intervenes, only for them to ultimately be exactly what Valentina needs to change her life for the better.

I also think people got too hung up on the "rules" of season one, which was more explicitly about class, and assumed that all the rich people would again get away with everything and the hotel staff or low SES characters would pay the prices, as in the first season. But this season was about sex, and the power of sex, and while in the long run Mia and Portia are unlikely to come out ahead, this season did show how being young and beautiful and willing to exploit sex for your own gains can pay off. For now.

That definitely made me get most of my predictions wrong. I did not think Tanya would die, and I definitely did not think things were going to work out perfectly for Mia/Valentina

It is definitely a very sunny portrayal of prostitution. Not saying prostitution is always terrible, but a situation like that (happy, independent, well-adjusted women getting what they need by manipulating men) is probably one in a million. That storyline reminded me that this show was written by a man

Agreed. Also the hooker-with-a-heart-of-gold-and-no-stis is such a boring trope, even if the actresses did a great job with it.

Jack's story was actually a much more realistic portrayal of prostitution

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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.

Harper does not bully or humiliate him. At any point. Cam does, though (the "original incel" comment, for instance).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

Totally agree. I also don't get the sense that Harper is anywhere near as enthralled with having the "big" money they now have. It sounds like she grew up working class in Puerto Rico and is still very tight with her family there (if they spent their honeymoon there). She's now a lawyer at a large firm which gives her financial security plus plenty of the nice things in life -- cute clothes, vacations. I think Harper would be happy with her UMC lifestyle and nothing more.

But the thing about Daphne/Cameron that did provoke jealousy was how affectionate they are and how much fun they seem to be having. I do actually think that Harper was right about them in some ways. We see at different times that to some degree, that is a show they put on for themselves and others. We know that Daphne definitely has some strong negative feelings about the cheating and also just how absent her husband sometimes is, but she finds different ways to bury them down deep and enjoy the good stuff about her marriage. And that scene with Cam flossing indicates that he's got some of his own issues that he does a very good job of glossing over.

My personal opinion is that this will work out for a Daphne/Cam couple for a while but that eventually it won't anymore. My experience in life is that at some point you have to deal with the stuff underneath, no matter how good you get at shoving it down. It will happen when you are no longer quite so young and hot and you don't command the same attention you used to, or when your career takes an unfortunate left turn, or when your kids get older and need you less, or when your parents die, or when you get sick or injured and have to confront your own mortality. I've seen it happen many times. Cam and Daphne have worked something out. For now.

I see it working for Cameron/Daphne, at least for a while, but not for Harper/Ethan. The games have spiced up Ethan and Harper's marriage temporarily, but they don't thrive on drama and deception like Cameron and Daphne do. Cameron and Daphne both seem to find some fun in the drama, even if they also get a little angry/hurt as well. In contrast, Ethan became almost homicidal over Harper kissing Cameron and Harper just seemed depressed by Ethan's lies about the prostitution night. Neither of those two is going to be happy long-term with that situation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.

Bullying and humiliating him? What are you talking about? Because she didn't act fun with his douchey friends?

Also, the majority of tech guys never make it big - they are comfortable but not multi-millionaires. He was far from an NBA prospect

This is weird projection IMO and you have issues with women

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.

Bullying and humiliating him? What are you talking about? Because she didn't act fun with his douchey friends?

Also, the majority of tech guys never make it big - they are comfortable but not multi-millionaires. He was far from an NBA prospect

This is weird projection IMO and you have issues with women

Harper is my age. When we entered the work force, Law + Banking were predominately run by men, arguably still are.
Some of the survival skills like being direct have gotten us far in holding a job in a competitive field but those traits weren't perceived as attractive/traditionally feminine like Isabella.
I am used to tell people "do this and that by when" to get the work results I wanted, but my DH had soooo much issue when I act this way around his family/at a restaurant. He thinks a woman asking for things/attention/resources upfront is considered disrespectful.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.

Bullying and humiliating him? What are you talking about? Because she didn't act fun with his douchey friends?

Also, the majority of tech guys never make it big - they are comfortable but not multi-millionaires. He was far from an NBA prospect

This is weird projection IMO and you have issues with women

Harper repeatedly bullied and humiliated her husband publicly and was cruel and passive-aggressive to his college friend(s) as soon as she met them. My husband's a porn addict, my husband won't impregnate me, my husband won't have sex with me, my husband is addicted to work. She disclosed all of this to people she just met. Oh she did it in a "sarcastic" way; yeah right, that's what cruel people hide behind as they're bullying you. Then when she heard Cam was the alpha dog going back 20 years creeping around Ethan's crushes, which made Ethan deeply insecure, she used that to her advantage to push more of her husband's buttons. She was psychologically messing with his head the entire trip. Ethan was Harper's mark, Ethan was also Cameron/Daphney's mark.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Jack saved Portia’s life. He was probably supposed to kill her

He didn't strike me as a killer, just a hustler.

This. His "job" was to keep her busy and out of the way. As to whether he was attractive, his styling got worse and worse. He looked attractive in the beginning but by the end he was sweaty and greasy, made to drunk or hungover.

I agree. I definitely get the attraction at first (and fwiw, I think the actress who plays Portia is very pretty!) but he turned gross near the end.

I think the plan was to have Portia out of the way and then tell her it was an accident (since they are planning to tell everyone that anyway). Two “accidental” deaths looks a lot more suspicious than one

I agree with this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

Totally agree. I also don't get the sense that Harper is anywhere near as enthralled with having the "big" money they now have. It sounds like she grew up working class in Puerto Rico and is still very tight with her family there (if they spent their honeymoon there). She's now a lawyer at a large firm which gives her financial security plus plenty of the nice things in life -- cute clothes, vacations. I think Harper would be happy with her UMC lifestyle and nothing more.

But the thing about Daphne/Cameron that did provoke jealousy was how affectionate they are and how much fun they seem to be having. I do actually think that Harper was right about them in some ways. We see at different times that to some degree, that is a show they put on for themselves and others. We know that Daphne definitely has some strong negative feelings about the cheating and also just how absent her husband sometimes is, but she finds different ways to bury them down deep and enjoy the good stuff about her marriage. And that scene with Cam flossing indicates that he's got some of his own issues that he does a very good job of glossing over.

My personal opinion is that this will work out for a Daphne/Cam couple for a while but that eventually it won't anymore. My experience in life is that at some point you have to deal with the stuff underneath, no matter how good you get at shoving it down. It will happen when you are no longer quite so young and hot and you don't command the same attention you used to, or when your career takes an unfortunate left turn, or when your kids get older and need you less, or when your parents die, or when you get sick or injured and have to confront your own mortality. I've seen it happen many times. Cam and Daphne have worked something out. For now.

Haha! Harper is an attorney, you can't trust attorneys from the get-go. Spare me her practicing specialty, she knows most of those workplace lawsuits are bullsh*t shake downs. Harper admits to giving her husband's money to her family. Harper admits she wants to launch a non-profit foundation. How do you make a splash in the foundation world? Big money. Her ~ $300k law firm income isn't big money. Late 30s Harper is also yearning for a baby before she's barren. Tick-tock. Harper and Ethan are not attracted to each other, they're just using each other out of convenience. He's an autistic loner, addicted to porn, and deeply weird around women; she needs a deep-pocketed meek husband who can fund her foundation desires and lift her extended family out of poverty and impregnate her to set her for life. She is fully aware at this point without kids, this could be a starter marriage the rich husband could immediately walk away from. And then she's just another rapidly aging, increasingly infertile single lawyer approaching 40. But it's humorous how most viewers are so drawn to Aubrey Plaza, the actress, they don't see what a conniving shyster lawyer she is. She's Megan Markle and Lauren Sanchez with a law degree.

Wow, what female attorney hurt you. This is insane and has no basis in the show

So Harper is just an altruistic corporate lawyer? Imagine believing this nonsense. She's a corporate shake-down artist. She's in a sexless marriage with an autistic weirdo because HE'S FILTHY RICH, period.

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Anonymous wrote:Portia is a terrible user and dim. She doesn't deserve Albie.

They deserve each other, both morons 😂

I don’t think Albie is a moron at all. He very calculatingly threw his mother under the bus. He is willing to lie to her face about how the vacation went for his dad, in order to get some money for his hookup.

Albie didn't know that his father slept with Lucia, so he wasn't really lying since his father did have some moments of self-examination and clarity.

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Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.

I completely discount the arguments of anyone with such atrocious grammar.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ethan was a bigger mark than Albie.

Harper played him like a fiddle with psychological manipulation to get what she wanted — her filthy rich weirdo husband wrapped around her finger and impregnating her.

Cameron and his wife orbited him to corrupt him and bring them all closer, so when they get back Ethan will wire a boatload of money to Cam to “manage”. Asset management is just a scam to milk to money for management fees forever.

Nobody likes Ethan. People just want his money, even the snarky conniving lawyer he’s married to.

I don’t agree with this at all. Harper was not manipulative. She doesn’t seem to care about the money at all and is mostly concerned that it’s going to mess up their marriage (which it does). At the end she is kind of manipulative I guess, when they both ended up playing Daphne/Cameron games with each other, but that’s a result of everything that went down on the trip. She was not like that to start

lol. She's a practicing lawyer and she was bullying and humiliating him while eating with friends (she had never met). Even when her and Ethan first met years back, he was a Yale graduate and a tech founder (he just hadn't yet cashed in), hardly some piker. It's akin to dating a 5-star basketball player at Duke and acting like you met him before he became a rich NBA player, so you were with him for genuine reasons.

Bullying and humiliating him? What are you talking about? Because she didn't act fun with his douchey friends?

Also, the majority of tech guys never make it big - they are comfortable but not multi-millionaires. He was far from an NBA prospect

This is weird projection IMO and you have issues with women

Harper repeatedly bullied and humiliated her husband publicly and was cruel and passive-aggressive to his college friend(s) as soon as she met them. My husband's a porn addict, my husband won't impregnate me, my husband won't have sex with me, my husband is addicted to work. She disclosed all of this to people she just met. Oh she did it in a "sarcastic" way; yeah right, that's what cruel people hide behind as they're bullying you. Then when she heard Cam was the alpha dog going back 20 years creeping around Ethan's crushes, which made Ethan deeply insecure, she used that to her advantage to push more of her husband's buttons. She was psychologically messing with his head the entire trip. Ethan was Harper's mark, Ethan was also Cameron/Daphney's mark.

So what is the theory here? That she acted like a jerk to her husband in order to - what? Get him to cheat on her? Which gets her what? I don't understand what you think Harper's big scheme was here. She was a pill to his friends (though they richly deserved it) and she's kind of sarcastic/rude. That doesn't mean she's some master puppeteer running a scam. She had a pretty normal marriage that got blown up by money and lies and Daphne and Cameron