Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:T2 to Ritchie Park is between 4.2 and 5.4 miles depending on what bus stop.

In option C? right?

How much busing is happening for FARMs kids in option D and E?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For all of these reasons above, on top of the fact that there is a local community center in walking distance for cheaper childcare, I believe RP2 should be zoned for their walkable neighborhood school RM5. It is what works best for FARMS and non-FARMS families. It will integrate them instead of splitting RP5 up JUST because of some apartments. Talk about humiliation. Talk about being a target. It makes me sad this entire board is so clueless. Sitting on their 1K laptops deciding the fate of others to look like they care. They know nothing about them.

How RP5 is getting split here? Wow, just for some apartments? They are real kids , just like you have kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T2 to Ritchie Park is between 4.2 and 5.4 miles depending on what bus stop.

In option C? right?

How much busing is happening for FARMs kids in option D and E?

Option D moves all of T5 and T2 which are just over 200 children. Roughly 80% of those children are FARMs kids. One group goes to Beall which is 3.4 miles and one goes to RPES#5 which is 2.6 miles.

Option E moves RP2 and RP3 from the new school to RP those two zones are also about 200 kids... Zone RP2 is about 60% FARM kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T2 to Ritchie Park is between 4.2 and 5.4 miles depending on what bus stop.

In option C? right?

How much busing is happening for FARMs kids in option D and E?

Option D moves all of T5 and T2 which are just over 200 children. Roughly 80% of those children are FARMs kids. One group goes to Beall which is 3.4 miles and one goes to RPES#5 which is 2.6 miles.

Option E moves RP2 and RP3 from the new school to RP those two zones are also about 200 kids... Zone RP2 is about 60% FARM kids.

Also,
RP5 (Fallsgrove) has approximately 4% of Ritchie Park's FARMS families and will be bused 4.6 miles to RM ES 5 in options C, D, and E.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T2 to Ritchie Park is between 4.2 and 5.4 miles depending on what bus stop.

In option C? right?

How much busing is happening for FARMs kids in option D and E?

Option D moves all of T5 and T2 which are just over 200 children. Roughly 80% of those children are FARMs kids. One group goes to Beall which is 3.4 miles and one goes to RPES#5 which is 2.6 miles.

Option E moves RP2 and RP3 from the new school to RP

E does't move those kids to RP. They are going there right now. If you already assumed that RP2 doesn't belong in rich neighborhood then it's a different issue.

Question is about if RP5 should change school or RP2 change school? There is pros and cons for both. Let's stick to facts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

D is a horrible option for Twinbrook families. D and E keeps a walkable zone to the new school bused to a farther away school. No other school cluster in MCPS buses walkers to a different school.

FARMS families in Twinbrook are part of the "protecting neighborhood camp." Who exactly are you trying to help here by going against what the people you claim to be helping want? That is paternalism at it's finest.

We talked to 37 parents in TB in the last 5 days. Most of them didn't like option C. Many were fine with option D , but many were opposed to it. ZERO person had any opposition to E.

Many were not aware of advantage of going to more affluent schools, but after showing the data 27 of them agreed with the idea and ready to support option D.

Based on our talk - Twinbrook is not for "protecting neighborhood camp." They simply face hardship by going to different school and like most parents don't want to change schools. "protecting neighborhood camp" tag applies to folks like council member in city of Rockville, Mark Pierzchala, who abuse their position to widen the segregation. Woodley Gardens doesn't need any protection and face zero hardship by moving and yet he wants to protect Woodley Gardens. We were horrified by testimonies of Woodley Garden residents to protect their neighborhood.

Who is "we"?

[Anonymous]

Stop # 3 TRAILRIDGE DR AND BENTRIDGE AVE - Buses kids to Beverly Farms elementary.



Walking distance to Cold Spring is 0.5 miles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Stop # 3 TRAILRIDGE DR AND BENTRIDGE AVE - Buses kids to Beverly Farms elementary.



Walking distance to Cold Spring is 0.5 miles.

Thanks for pointing it out. It's not an issue in this situation, issue comes when RP2 has something similar to continue attending RP. It's not even similar, pretty much entire RP2 has longer than 0.5 miles walk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Stop # 3 TRAILRIDGE DR AND BENTRIDGE AVE - Buses kids to Beverly Farms elementary.



Walking distance to Cold Spring is 0.5 miles.

Thanks for pointing it out. It's not an issue in this situation, issue comes when RP2 has something similar to continue attending RP. It's not even similar, pretty much entire RP2 has longer than 0.5 miles walk.

Why will you protect your neighborhood from BF kids? They are all well off.

You need to protect Neighborhood from poor kids.

[Anonymous]

Mark Pierzchala wants to protect Woodley Gardens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mark Pierzchala wants to protect Woodley Gardens.

Some one needs to show this person , but I guess his priority is to protect Woodley Park Neighborhood.


COORDINATING HOUSING AND EDUCATION POLICY TO PROMOTE INTEGRATION - http://www.prrac.org/pdf/HousingEducationReport-October2011.pdf



Connecting Housing and School Policy to Promote Racial and Economic Integration - http://www.prrac.org/full_text.php?item_id=12623&newsletter_id=0&header=Current%20Projects


Study of Montgomery County schools shows benefits of economic integration - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/14/AR2010101407577.html


Housing as a Platform for Improving Education Outcomes among Low-Income Children -
https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/25331/412554-Housing-as-a-Platform-for-Improving-Education-Outcomes-among-Low-Income-Children.PDF


Breaking Down Barriers: Housing, Neighborhoods, and Schools of Opportunity -
https://www.huduser.gov/portal/sites/default/files/pdf/insight-4.pdf


There are countless research done on this, but he wants to protect Woodley Gardens Neighborhood and coming up with rally call to protect neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

MCPS BOE members also need to read everything. That way they can focus on narrowing the achievement gaps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: MCPS BOE members also need to read everything. That way they can focus on narrowing the achievement gaps.

So in D

What about the 400+ kids who remain at Twinbrook in a school with identified infrastructure needs that will still be over 50% FARMS. The remaining kids loose Title I funding and the after and summer care that provides. Where are the studies for those kids?

Also, what about the 100+ kids that will be bused into Twinbrook from the towncenter and other areas east of the pike. Those kids go from a school with a rate of 25% to one of 50%. How will they be affected?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

D is a horrible option for Twinbrook families. D and E keeps a walkable zone to the new school bused to a farther away school. No other school cluster in MCPS buses walkers to a different school.

FARMS families in Twinbrook are part of the "protecting neighborhood camp." Who exactly are you trying to help here by going against what the people you claim to be helping want? That is paternalism at it's finest.

We talked to 37 parents in TB in the last 5 days. Most of them didn't like option C. Many were fine with option D , but many were opposed to it. ZERO person had any opposition to E.

Many were not aware of advantage of going to more affluent schools, but after showing the data 27 of them agreed with the idea and ready to support option D.

Based on our talk - Twinbrook is not for "protecting neighborhood camp." They simply face hardship by going to different school and like most parents don't want to change schools. "protecting neighborhood camp" tag applies to folks like council member in city of Rockville, Mark Pierzchala, who abuse their position to widen the segregation. Woodley Gardens doesn't need any protection and face zero hardship by moving and yet he wants to protect Woodley Gardens. We were horrified by testimonies of Woodley Garden residents to protect their neighborhood.

Who is "we"?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Stop # 3 TRAILRIDGE DR AND BENTRIDGE AVE - Buses kids to Beverly Farms elementary.



Walking distance to Cold Spring is 0.5 miles.

Rich kids taking bus even if they have to walk only 0.5 miles is fine.

FARMs kids taking bus to avoid walking 0.7 - 0.9 miles is not fine.


MCPS doesn't bus anyone if you can walk is an absurd assumption.


All options are on table and MCPS will make a call based on how they prioritize everything. I suspect they do want to narrow the achievement gaps, but too much push back may make it difficult to go with Alternate D. That's still the best option here. Otherwise MCPS will be stuck with Aternate E, which doesn't do anything for narrowing the achievement gaps, but at least doesn't widens it.