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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

South Lakes has not increased in enrollment.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

South Lakes has not increased in enrollment.

That building opened up after the school year opened. I'm surprised the Comstock/eya townhouses a block away hasn't yielded any new students or maybe people really hate ib programs?

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Yes. That Marriott at millions for a condo is going to attract a lot of families with kids......
And, the BLVD is pretty pricey for rent.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

I'm the pp who is somewhat familiar with the Reston area.

There are some townhouses by Lake Anne that have recently opened--but not tons of them. They are next to the senior housing.
There are also some old Old Reston Avenue going up--across from Plaza America. Again, not a huge development.

Here is the development that PP was referring to:


https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/10/23/work-starts-in-reston-on-first-phase-of-isaac-newton-square-development/
The first phase of work is underway in the redevelopment of Isaac Newton Square, an office park in Reston that will be transformed into a mixed-use neighborhood in phases over the next 20 years.

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I think RIO mom is trying to claim that South Lakes has more new construction than Oakton. I do not believe that to be true in light of the huge development that is underway up the street from Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:I think RIO mom is trying to claim that South Lakes has more new construction than Oakton. I do not believe that to be true in light of the huge development that is underway up the street from Oakton.

No dog in this fight but the FCPS residential applications dashboard (last updated in August 2025) identifies more potential growth within the South Lakes pyramid than within the Oakton pyramid. I think the top five in order are Marshall, McLean, South Lakes, Westfield, and Edison. McLean will shed most of that potential growth to Langley with the Spring Hill island moving to Langley and much of the Westfield growth will be in areas likely to move to Western.

Source: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/08eca5b417f94ca09dc6c384db28c764/

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!

Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.

Look at a map, lady!!!

Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.

You're right. We should rezone the Navy families who live of 286 to Western instead.

You mean the Navy Island? Yes. Along with the rest of Franklin Farm.

And, just checked google maps. The closest McNair homes and the closest Crossfield homes are the same distance from Carson. 2 miles.

None of McNair kids have to cross 286. And a sizable number of Crossfield families live east of Lawyers. None of McNair kids live that far.

What is your obsession with Fairfax County Parkway? It's just a road. Like any other.

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Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with the Crossfield moms?

The RIO moms claim that Crossfield is not that far from Oakton, and the pro-Western moms claim that Crossfield is closer to Western than to McNair and Coates.

I said that there are some families zoned to Crossfield that are closer to Western than some families zoned to McNair. That is very different than saying Crossfield is closer to Western than to McNair and Coates.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!

Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.

Look at a map, lady!!!

Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.

You're right. We should rezone the Navy families who live of 286 to Western instead.

You mean the Navy Island? Yes. Along with the rest of Franklin Farm.

And, just checked google maps. The closest McNair homes and the closest Crossfield homes are the same distance from Carson. 2 miles.

None of McNair kids have to cross 286. And a sizable number of Crossfield families live east of Lawyers. None of McNair kids live that far.

What is your obsession with Fairfax County Parkway? It's just a road. Like any other.

Like any other “major” roads.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.

Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.

FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.

That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.

FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.

Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth

Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.

Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.

No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.

I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.

Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

blvd has been open for 10 years.

1908 Reston Metro Plaza, Reston, VA 20190 opened in September.

Not many school aged children will be found in that type of housing. You get a lot higher yield from single family and townhouses.

You do know how many townhouses are being built in that area? 24 acrees in Issac Newton square alone, many more on the east side of the train station have been built or are in the process of being built.

But somehow 300 units of mixed development is why we need to move kids out of oakton...

Then why didn't you give the address of the townhouses? I just looked at the building you provided. I know the > 2100 Oakton housing units coming online all have townhouses in them. Families don't usually pay the premium for an apartment next to the metro. Families go where they can get more space for less money.

Because if I have you the name of the developers and the location you can do the magic of Google to find original sources rather than being spoonfed.

Plus if you're the same poster who said they were familiar with the area, they undoubtedly saw a) the existing townhouses which were recently built, n) the boarded up office buildings they are about to come down(18 acres I might add) c) all of the sewer revamp that is going on to support the Issac square project, and d) the decommissioned community college building.

That area has been under heavy construction for years. Anyone familiar with the area would know that even if they don't know the unit totals.

I'm the pp who is somewhat familiar with the Reston area.

There are some townhouses by Lake Anne that have recently opened--but not tons of them. They are next to the senior housing.
There are also some old Old Reston Avenue going up--across from Plaza America. Again, not a huge development.

Here is the development that PP was referring to:


https://www.ffxnow.com/2025/10/23/work-starts-in-reston-on-first-phase-of-isaac-newton-square-development/
The first phase of work is underway in the redevelopment of Isaac Newton Square, an office park in Reston that will be transformed into a mixed-use neighborhood in phases over the next 20 years.

The whole area is being redeveloped. The left side of the picture on the left is where Whiele Reston station is, the new BVLD building, marriot, new google building etc aree.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/publicaffairs/reston-midlines-18-million-square-feet-mixed-use-development-near-wiehle-metro-approved

The midline project is still under construfction, the Faraday apartments are open, maybe half the townhouses are bult, but the two buildings shown here haven't been taken down, new supermarket isn't built yet, they've got a ton of development still in progress there.

Issac Newton is under construfction RIGHT NOW.

https://greaterrestonliving.com/everything-we-know-about-the-isaac-newton-square-redevelopment-in-reston-va-so-far/

Plus you have all the new towers going up near reston town center

I'd figure people in the "western HS area" would be heading up to Reston Lifetime and would be well aprised of all the construction progress, but i guess thats just for people rooted in oakton?