Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Boundaries for the new high school in western Fairfax County will be determined by early June. More on that process will be available in the coming months.

Please opt in now, but we won’t let you know the boundary and bus decision until June.



INSANE. Complain, complain, complain. This should have all been done in tandem.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!


Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.



Look at a map, lady!!!


Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.


You're right. We should rezone the Navy families who live of 286 to Western instead.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!


Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.



Look at a map, lady!!!


Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.


You're right. We should rezone the Navy families who live of 286 to Western instead.


You mean the Navy Island? Yes. Along with the rest of Franklin Farm.

And, just checked google maps. The closest McNair homes and the closest Crossfield homes are the same distance from Carson. 2 miles.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.


That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.


FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.


Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth


Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.


Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.


No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.


I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!


Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.



Look at a map, lady!!!


Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.
You don't know how to read a map.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


FCPS never dropped SPA counts except for these non Thru studies: Coates, Parklawn, and the older Kent Gardens. Coates borders Loudoun and is a logical feed from Westfield to Western. Logic removed any Crossfield from the Coates study but included Fox Mill which had over 30% of K-6 pre any transfers generated from households west of 286, Fairfax County Parkway.

Meren may not like that fact but could pick up the Westbriar Island assigned to Marshall in scenario 4. Also could get South Lakes replacements from some Madison and Langley in this cycle. Gibson populated South Lakes with a Madison Island years ago.


That would leave open more room for Tysons growth.


FACT: South Lakes is 100 below capacity.
FACT: Oakton is around 50 over capacity.


Fact south lakes has 4100 new housing units coming online near the metro station.

I hate endless growth


Fact is that student yields vary depending on the type of housing unit.

We shouldn’t be making decisions in one area based on potential growth and in another area based only on actual overcrowding.


Last I checked the new development in Oakton is of similar housing types but far lesser units but that doesn't help your argument does it?

Last I checked, Oakton added 100 new students this year. Where are they coming from? And, the construction in Oakton boundary is current. RTC is in the future--but, in any case, they could send the kids to Herndon. Look at the boundary map--easy fix.


No, 900 units came online in the past few months. 4100 are coming online soon.

The top 3 overcrowded pyramids in western fairfax don't include oakton.

Please keep up.


I am very familiar with Reston. There are not 900 new units there presently. Where are they? There is new construction, but nothing like you describe.


Uh

You haven't seen the BLVD building and Marriot that just opened in the past 6 months?

BLVD had 450 units. Marriot has 94 that's just part of Reston row.

Issac Newton square is under construction(32 acres of former office space) now and has 2100 units. Plus there's the EYA and Comstock construction (Reston midline) and Pulte.

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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!


Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.



Look at a map, lady!!!


Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.
You don't know how to read a map.


Apparently better than you do.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!


Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.



Look at a map, lady!!!


Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.


You're right. We should rezone the Navy families who live of 286 to Western instead.


You mean the Navy Island? Yes. Along with the rest of Franklin Farm.

And, just checked google maps. The closest McNair homes and the closest Crossfield homes are the same distance from Carson. 2 miles.


No, there are families that go to Navy that are West of Fairfax County Parkway. I'm being facetious here. PP saying the Fairfax County parkway is a natural boundary is just ridiculous. It's one road with a lot of stoplights. How is that different from people crossing Centreville Rd? Or Lees Corner kids crossing 50? Or Crossfield & Navy families getting on 66 to go to high school? It's not.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!


Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.



Look at a map, lady!!!


Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.


You're right. We should rezone the Navy families who live of 286 to Western instead.


You mean the Navy Island? Yes. Along with the rest of Franklin Farm.

And, just checked google maps. The closest McNair homes and the closest Crossfield homes are the same distance from Carson. 2 miles.


None of McNair kids have to cross 286. And a sizable number of Crossfield families live east of Lawyers. None of McNair kids live that far.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!


Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.



Look at a map, lady!!!


Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.


You're right. We should rezone the Navy families who live of 286 to Western instead.


You mean the Navy Island? Yes. Along with the rest of Franklin Farm.

And, just checked google maps. The closest McNair homes and the closest Crossfield homes are the same distance from Carson. 2 miles.




None of McNair kids have to cross 286. And a sizable number of Crossfield families live east of Lawyers. None of McNair kids live that far.


Agree. But, the largest portion of Crossfield students live just as close as McNair students. Both should be at the new high school. Both manage to get to Carson.
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Of course Western is closer than Oakton. We all get that.

But Crossfield is not closer to Western than the other elementary schools, and it’s not a wash.

Get your facts straight.

You're an idiot. Look at the neighborhoods where people live, moron.


Why are you triggered?

I know exactly where they live. Crossfield families do not live closer to Western than the other neighborhood. On average, they’re the farthest.

Crossfield’s westernmost neighborhood is roughly as close as the others. But the eastern neighborhoods (east of Lawyer’s Rd) are farther than any other elementary schools. No Crossfield families live west of 286, and they all have to cross it to get to Western High.


What is your point? We cross it to get to Carson, we cross it to get to the grocery store, we cross it to get to the soccer fields, we use it to get just about anywhere. It's not like Fairfax County Parkway is a six lane highway without any stoplights. I just don't get this weird argument. Not to mention, you have to take 66 and cross Chain Bridge Rd to get to Oakton. OMG!!!


Nobody denies that Oakton is far. That's a fair point.

But on average, Crossfield kids live the farthest from Rachel Carson compared to kids from other elementary schools.

My reply was to someone who claimed "Most Crossfield neighborhoods are closer to Western than Coates and McNair, and many are closer than the eastern part of Fox Mill Estates," which is simply not true.



Look at a map, lady!!!


Exaxtly. Look at the map.

None of Crossfield families live west of 286, and they are not closer to Western than Coates and McNair.


You're right. We should rezone the Navy families who live of 286 to Western instead.


You mean the Navy Island? Yes. Along with the rest of Franklin Farm.

And, just checked google maps. The closest McNair homes and the closest Crossfield homes are the same distance from Carson. 2 miles.




None of McNair kids have to cross 286. And a sizable number of Crossfield families live east of Lawyers. None of McNair kids live that far.


Agree. But, the largest portion of Crossfield students live just as close as McNair students. Both should be at the new high school. Both manage to get to Carson.


If FCPS had any integrity, Crossfield would be assigned to Western, or Fox Mill assigned to Western with the rest of Crossfield moving to South Lakes.

But, sure, let's move other kids around against their will (just wait to see what happens to Centreville families), but defer to Oakton loudmouths.
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What's wrong with the Crossfield moms?

The RIO moms claim that Crossfield is not that far from Oakton, and the pro-Western moms claim that Crossfield is closer to Western than to McNair and Coates.

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Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with the Crossfield moms?

The RIO moms claim that Crossfield is not that far from Oakton, and the pro-Western moms claim that Crossfield is closer to Western than to McNair and Coates.



I don't think anyone claimed it was closer. I'm the one that pointed out that the closest kids from both schools are about equidistant--which is a fact. One thing for sure, the Crossfield parent who claims she can get to Oakton faster than to Carson is stretching the truth. And, if that is the case, the closest school to her house just might be a different high school.
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Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with the Crossfield moms?

The RIO moms claim that Crossfield is not that far from Oakton, and the pro-Western moms claim that Crossfield is closer to Western than to McNair and Coates.



I don't think anyone claimed it was closer. I'm the one that pointed out that the closest kids from both schools are about equidistant--which is a fact. One thing for sure, the Crossfield parent who claims she can get to Oakton faster than to Carson is stretching the truth. And, if that is the case, the closest school to her house just might be a different high school.


dp. And the furthest kids from Crossfield are live further out than kids from any other prospective school. Bussing to Oakton, and the waste of time and tax payer money it entails, is a much better argument for Crossfield.
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Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with the Crossfield moms?

The RIO moms claim that Crossfield is not that far from Oakton, and the pro-Western moms claim that Crossfield is closer to Western than to McNair and Coates.



I don't think anyone claimed it was closer. I'm the one that pointed out that the closest kids from both schools are about equidistant--which is a fact. One thing for sure, the Crossfield parent who claims she can get to Oakton faster than to Carson is stretching the truth. And, if that is the case, the closest school to her house just might be a different high school.


dp. And the furthest kids from Crossfield are live further out than kids from any other prospective school. Bussing to Oakton, and the waste of time and tax payer money it entails, is a much better argument for Crossfield.


They live closer than most Lees Corner kids.
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