DA vs ECNL vs everything else

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Anonymous wrote:"Possession soccer"

Another useless term spouted by pretentious parents. Just because the GK punts the ball does not mean they do not play the possession style.


Wrong. It's an indicator of direct soccer. A punt is a 50/50 ball. Actually worse because the opposing team is facing the ball. Punts have a place when your team is pressured. Otherwise play it from the back. Soccer is a possession game. When you see the pros punting it is typically to someone. Or the better keepers javelin to someone on a quick counter. Watch Manuel Neuer or Hugo Lloris play, goalkeeper distribution is about keeping possession.


The objectives of the DA program are to get teams building from the back.

If clubs are letting their players play long balls or punt it out of the back, USSF technical advisors make note and work with the clubs to change this.

Give it a couple of years on the girls side and you should start seeing less and less direct soccer.


Can't wait that long. Our club does not allow punting out of the back. Period. If kids aren't listening and sticking to the methodology--out they come. I have seen a team turn around in less than 7 months time. I'm not sure why it will take US soccer years to do this.

I'll tell you why---none of the DA coaches I know from this area are trained properly to coach this way. They still are using athleticism as their primary strategy. They, themselves, don't have the knowledge or how to implement it. Watch the training sessions, watch the games. We have coaching inconsistency in the US. So many different styles and so many different leagues/clubs without any cohesiveness. That's why our USMNT is a giant mess.


+1 Nailed it. USSDA's technical advisors? came from the same clubs.

+1,000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It would be fantastic to have one league and pro/rel and less crazy travel than we have today, for sure. But if your kid is going into her sophomore year in high school and wants to play in college, it really feels like you have no choice but to opt into the DA or ECNL systems. And we resisted for quite some time—our daughter entered the ‘system’ later than most, playing with her local travel club for longer than her other friends with college/pro soccer ambitions did. I hope someone does change the system for the next set of kids through. But those of us trying to get our kids through these high school years don’t have the time or energy!


My oldest is in 6th grade and I am actively fighting for change. I really think it’s coming, but not from the Americans. They are going to have the shit handed to them in about 5 years.
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Anonymous wrote:Those are good points from the last few posters. I have been evaluating the options for a while and I am coming to the conclusion that DA will be the best path for my DD. Why? Because I want her to learn to play soccer the right way. Having the TDs work with these DA programs to improve the game is the right thing to do. It’s what USSF should be doing. Having that structure is important. At the end of the day, the curriculum matters more to me than winning or losing, more than where the talent goes or anything else.


So D. Drake is going to come teach your club guy how to coach the DA way? Drink the Kool-Aid. She couldn't coach a winning season after Gtown.


I don’t need Pep Guardiola to oversee the club. What I am looking for is some structure and USSF seems to have more than ECNL at this point.


I wouldn’t kick him out of bed.0
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Anonymous wrote: I would gladly send my DD and thousands of dollars a year to the program that teaches possession soccer but I have not seen one in the many years I have watched youth travel soccer


FCB escola practices possession soccer as a religion. Go watch one of the training sessions you will see it in every age group.


Lo r check out Manassas Soccer Club, their travel teams are all about possession.
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Anonymous wrote:Those are good points from the last few posters. I have been evaluating the options for a while and I am coming to the conclusion that DA will be the best path for my DD. Why? Because I want her to learn to play soccer the right way. Having the TDs work with these DA programs to improve the game is the right thing to do. It’s what USSF should be doing. Having that structure is important. At the end of the day, the curriculum matters more to me than winning or losing, more than where the talent goes or anything else.


So D. Drake is going to come teach your club guy how to coach the DA way? Drink the Kool-Aid. She couldn't coach a winning season after Gtown.


"Teach your club guy" Hmmm, someone sounds a tad bit sexist.



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And Boys ECNL comes in for the win in terms of utter ridiculousness.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/boys-ecnl-to-host-first-national-training-camp-in-the-bahamas/
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Anonymous wrote:And Boys ECNL comes in for the win in terms of utter ridiculousness.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/boys-ecnl-to-host-first-national-training-camp-in-the-bahamas/


Wow. They may just get the top prize with that.
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Anonymous wrote:And Boys ECNL comes in for the win in terms of utter ridiculousness.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/boys-ecnl-to-host-first-national-training-camp-in-the-bahamas/


Wow. They may just get the top prize with that.


Looking down your noses I see. Pretty hateful. I think it’s neat that they are taking the top 40 in the program and taking them somewhere memorable to train. Us Youth Futsal is always going all over the place with its top players. Canada, Columbia, and so on.
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Anonymous wrote:Keep seeing the phrase, "Americas problem is..."

The things your kids should be taught are not the things they are learning at an early age. That's the problem. It takes years to refine these skill.

1. First touch. If its not good then they're not good.

2. Shielding: Buys time to make appropriate decision. Allows you to deal with pressure accordingly. Helps relieve panic.

3. Check shoulder: Know your surroundings. Always be checking. One minute you're open. The other you're not. Soccer is a game of space. Find it.

4. Dribbling: NEVER EVER TAUGHT. Best player can dribble. Most kids don't have good enough touch to dribble at a high level.

5. Movement off the ball: Find space, be an option, don't stand and watch the game. Be apart of it.

Start with that.





Love it, and adding a note that notice "passing" is not listed. Yet, "pass it" is what you hear every single parent and coach yell at every u-little small sided game.
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Anonymous wrote:And Boys ECNL comes in for the win in terms of utter ridiculousness.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/boys-ecnl-to-host-first-national-training-camp-in-the-bahamas/


Wow. They may just get the top prize with that.


Looking down your noses I see. Pretty hateful. I think it’s neat that they are taking the top 40 in the program and taking them somewhere memorable to train. Us Youth Futsal is always going all over the place with its top players. Canada, Columbia, and so on.


They aren't taking them anywhere. The kids parents pay their way to the Bahamas. It's just a bigger scam than Villarreal offering a couple of Annandale kids the chance to "train" with their club for a couple of days.
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# MONEYGRAB
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And Boys ECNL comes in for the win in terms of utter ridiculousness.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/boys-ecnl-to-host-first-national-training-camp-in-the-bahamas/


Wow. They may just get the top prize with that.


Looking down your noses I see. Pretty hateful. I think it’s neat that they are taking the top 40 in the program and taking them somewhere memorable to train. Us Youth Futsal is always going all over the place with its top players. Canada, Columbia, and so on.


They aren't taking them anywhere. The kids parents pay their way to the Bahamas. It's just a bigger scam than Villarreal offering a couple of Annandale kids the chance to "train" with their club for a couple of days.


Haters gonna hate.
Anonymous
Truth hurts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And Boys ECNL comes in for the win in terms of utter ridiculousness.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/boys-ecnl-to-host-first-national-training-camp-in-the-bahamas/


Wow. They may just get the top prize with that.


Looking down your noses I see. Pretty hateful. I think it’s neat that they are taking the top 40 in the program and taking them somewhere memorable to train. Us Youth Futsal is always going all over the place with its top players. Canada, Columbia, and so on.


They aren't taking them anywhere. The kids parents pay their way to the Bahamas. It's just a bigger scam than Villarreal offering a couple of Annandale kids the chance to "train" with their club for a couple of days.


Haters gonna hate.


Come on. Why the bahamas? Expensive to get there and will exclude some kids accordingly. Why not a more accessible location?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And Boys ECNL comes in for the win in terms of utter ridiculousness.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-girls/boys-ecnl-to-host-first-national-training-camp-in-the-bahamas/


Wow. They may just get the top prize with that.


Looking down your noses I see. Pretty hateful. I think it’s neat that they are taking the top 40 in the program and taking them somewhere memorable to train. Us Youth Futsal is always going all over the place with its top players. Canada, Columbia, and so on.


They aren't taking them anywhere. The kids parents pay their way to the Bahamas. It's just a bigger scam than Villarreal offering a couple of Annandale kids the chance to "train" with their club for a couple of days.


Haters gonna hate.


It’s not like it’s mandatory. All of my kids did the internati9nal ODP Tripp’s, and it was a great experience for them. If someone can’t afford it or thinks it’s a waste of money, don’t send your kids. Simple.

Come on. Why the bahamas? Expensive to get there and will exclude some kids accordingly. Why not a more accessible location?
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