Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone asking for 1 bitcoin ($66k) to give up identity of kidnapper..or whatever this is.

Why so low?

And why so public as to tip off whomever is involved?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone asking for 1 bitcoin ($66k) to give up identity of kidnapper..or whatever this is.

Why so low?

It's a tip. They don't want to be confused as having played an actual part in the event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever a senior in fragile health lives alone — especially in a high value house — the home is at risk of being cased by delivery drivers, landscapers, security guards, neighbors, door to door salesmen, et al. And if it’s not them directly, it just takes them running their mouth to a desperate drug addict who won’t think twice about doing something extreme.

But the house wasn't robbed and Nancy's captors don't seem to know how to ask for a ransom in a credible way. So what was the point? This isn't a normal crime.

You’re trying to make sense of a suspect who is certainly mentally ill plus very likely addicted to hard narcotics — with nothing to lose. They are not rational. You can’t make sense of their behavior. Robberies, burglaries, and home invasions “turn bad” all the time. There’s a lot of wickedness out there and only a sliver of it ever even makes the news.

Not PP but — Nothing is missing from the home except Nancy. The Sheriff confirmed that part.

[Anonymous]

At this point stop sending fake ransom letters. We’re all getting fatigued by the rollercoaster.

The answer to the case is what benefit is an 84yo woman to whoever took her. She has more medical needs than they would. She isn’t physically able to do very much. Why pick her over the healthy appearing daughter or even son? Savannah would likely have a secure building or home, so she wasn’t picked.

Decode the mystery of who would want an 84yo? Why take her with you and not steal anything? Not jewelry, not her phone or electronics. Not clothing. Nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to take a closer look at the kidnapper's coat. It's very unusual. Where did he get it? US brand? Mexican? Some specialty tactical gear?

The seam across the chest, sealed zippers, the thickness of the material (you can see this in the sleeves)....

I challenge any of you to find that coat online. (And no, it's not Nike, which is what everyone is saying.).

It looks like a FedEx jacket

It's not. Don't be sloppy.

Yes, Fedex has a stripe across the front, but it's wider than this one. They don't have sealed seams. They are not lined with fleece in the sleeve.

I wish I took a screenshot of it, but somebody identified the jacket in a comment on one of those Twitter threads. If I find it, I will come back and post the link. It was identical and it was not a brand that I know.

[Anonymous]

I repeat. Inside job. Annie and Tommaso are involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever a senior in fragile health lives alone — especially in a high value house — the home is at risk of being cased by delivery drivers, landscapers, security guards, neighbors, door to door salesmen, et al. And if it’s not them directly, it just takes them running their mouth to a desperate drug addict who won’t think twice about doing something extreme.

But the house wasn't robbed and Nancy's captors don't seem to know how to ask for a ransom in a credible way. So what was the point? This isn't a normal crime.

You’re trying to make sense of a suspect who is certainly mentally ill plus very likely addicted to hard narcotics — with nothing to lose. They are not rational. You can’t make sense of their behavior. Robberies, burglaries, and home invasions “turn bad” all the time. There’s a lot of wickedness out there and only a sliver of it ever even makes the news.

Well no shit, Sherlock. Did you read the stupid post I was responding to? These are obvious questions to low effort speculative nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to take a closer look at the kidnapper's coat. It's very unusual. Where did he get it? US brand? Mexican? Some specialty tactical gear?

The seam across the chest, sealed zippers, the thickness of the material (you can see this in the sleeves)....

I challenge any of you to find that coat online. (And no, it's not Nike, which is what everyone is saying.).

It looks like a FedEx jacket

It's not. Don't be sloppy.

Yes, Fedex has a stripe across the front, but it's wider than this one. They don't have sealed seams. They are not lined with fleece in the sleeve.

DP. Glad we have you on the case! Have you shared this information with authorities? Surely they will be interested!

It looks like a plain old fleece to me, and the stripe across the chest is just the backpack strap - the kind you buckle across your chest for extra stability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone needs to take a closer look at the kidnapper's coat. It's very unusual. Where did he get it? US brand? Mexican? Some specialty tactical gear?

The seam across the chest, sealed zippers, the thickness of the material (you can see this in the sleeves)....

I challenge any of you to find that coat online. (And no, it's not Nike, which is what everyone is saying.).

It looks like a FedEx jacket

It's not. Don't be sloppy.

Yes, Fedex has a stripe across the front, but it's wider than this one. They don't have sealed seams. They are not lined with fleece in the sleeve.

I wish I took a screenshot of it, but somebody identified the jacket in a comment on one of those Twitter threads. If I find it, I will come back and post the link. It was identical and it was not a brand that I know.

Here is a direct link to the windbreaker

https://us.2xu.com/products/aero-hex-windbreaker-mr7358a-weathervaneblack-reflective?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17609298422&gbraid=0AAAAADvpZLhNqATevB7f4NguRB4qAFoGJ&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn7eH2_DRkgMVnWFHAR1DpibOEAAYASAAEgLlkfD_BwE

https://x.com/klutzycutie/status/2021361250752659513?s=46&t=R3AX3c486LFdeZpFtkN_eA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whenever a senior in fragile health lives alone — especially in a high value house — the home is at risk of being cased by delivery drivers, landscapers, security guards, neighbors, door to door salesmen, et al. And if it’s not them directly, it just takes them running their mouth to a desperate drug addict who won’t think twice about doing something extreme.

But the house wasn't robbed and Nancy's captors don't seem to know how to ask for a ransom in a credible way. So what was the point? This isn't a normal crime.

You’re trying to make sense of a suspect who is certainly mentally ill plus very likely addicted to hard narcotics — with nothing to lose. They are not rational. You can’t make sense of their behavior. Robberies, burglaries, and home invasions “turn bad” all the time. There’s a lot of wickedness out there and only a sliver of it ever even makes the news.

An addict is stealing those pain pills and the rest of the medication to sell it or use it. This person didn’t take anything but Nancy.

[Anonymous]

Savannah is a lawyer. Interesting to know. I wonder if this is related to legal advice she has given recently. Even if not in court, maybe a client on the side has a grudge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Savannah is a lawyer. Interesting to know. I wonder if this is related to legal advice she has given recently. Even if not in court, maybe a client on the side has a grudge.

I don't think she even has an active license to practice law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Savannah is a lawyer. Interesting to know. I wonder if this is related to legal advice she has given recently. Even if not in court, maybe a client on the side has a grudge.

Um…she’s not a practicing lawyer, she hosts the Today show

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Savannah is a lawyer. Interesting to know. I wonder if this is related to legal advice she has given recently. Even if not in court, maybe a client on the side has a grudge.

She's not out there giving legal advice. It's estimated that 1/4 of law school grads are not practicing 10 years after graduating/passing the bar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At this point stop sending fake ransom letters. We’re all getting fatigued by the rollercoaster.

The answer to the case is what benefit is an 84yo woman to whoever took her. She has more medical needs than they would. She isn’t physically able to do very much. Why pick her over the healthy appearing daughter or even son? Savannah would likely have a secure building or home, so she wasn’t picked.

Decode the mystery of who would want an 84yo? Why take her with you and not steal anything? Not jewelry, not her phone or electronics. Not clothing. Nothing.

First thought? Easier to take her (living along, not able to fight anyone off , likely not able to fire a gun in self defense if caught off guard by an intruder). Taking one of Savannah's siblings would be much riskier- married, younger, stronger, might be armed, might have better security systems being younger and more tech savvy. Obviously taking Savannah would be the most difficult. If they were targeting her family for some reason (mental illness obsession with Savannah for example) the 84 year old mother is the obvious target IMO.