Joe is out

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tldr: Harris is getting a billion dollars 💸

i do not understand why when all the polling shows she has no pth.
can someone please explain why? am not allowed to start a new thread.

Cite your polling.

DP but she polls better than Biden in most categories with the exception of old white people. Also, before it was a hypothetical. Now it's reality. We'll see how much things change now that the Democrats have a fresh ticket instead of a tired old man with dementia. Haven't we all seen the Trump show before? It's a tired act. Harris brings a generational shift and fresh energy to the ticket at the top. And don't discount having the first woman President as being a thing for Democrats and younger voters.

+1. I’m raising two Gen Z voters. They would have voted with zero enthusiasm for Biden. But probably only because we raised our kids to believe voting is the responsibility of every adult citizen (kids had to go with one parent when they voted, if they did, we got Mellow Mushroom while we watched returns, etc). They are fired up. Which is essential. Because Boomers will always vote. Dem win if Gen Z turns out. But, Gen Z won’t turn out, writ large, for meh vs worse meh.

My GenZ kids aren’t fired up. One said he’d vote for Whitmer. Maybe they will be, but not yet…

are they going to vote for Trump?

DP. My GenZ kids are voting for the Republicans. They’ve made that very clear.

Should've raised them better...

They’re probably lying to their Republican parents to get them off their backs.

DP. It’s funny how you actually believe GenZ will uniformly vote for Democrats. Echo chamber, much?
- a GenZ voter

Why woudl GenZ vote for Trump?

There is a large swath of angry young men, mostly white. We know them as incels, bros, and betas (though they think they're omegas). They have been sent down a rightwing rabbit hole online. If they disconnect from their screens for five minutes, they would probably vote Trump or kennedy.

Speaking of echo chamber ^^

[Anonymous]

This may already been suggested but I can't read all 181 pages BUT I hope his last official act is to pardon Hunter. I know Hunter is using Clarence Thomas opinion used by Cannon but I doubt that succeeds.

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Anonymous wrote:72 hours ago, Biden was vowing he wouldn’t drop out . That was Friday.

What changed?

He lost his party. They asked him nicely and quietly to do the right thing. He didn’t. So ever larger members of the party said or leaked that he should go and donors stopped the flow of money. Good, bad or neutral— Dude was pushed out. No other way to say it.

Exactly. We all know this, even the sappy kumbaya Democrats who insist he’s a “hero.”

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Anonymous wrote:The anger and fear in Republicans is palpable on this thread.

I'm not a Republican, I'm a leftist/anarchist and I don't like Joe Biden. I do also notice some angry conservatives in this thread, but tbh I don't see a huge difference between Biden and Trump.

I'm relieved to have Kamala Harris as an option over Genocide Joe, but that doesn't mean I'm ok with this two-party system that is strangling my money and my right to exist in a real democracy.

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And small donations instead of Trump taking a billion from Oil and Gas and $45 million a month from Elon. People are fired up about the Democrats.

Also a huge percentage of donations came from people who hadn’t yet donated this cycle at all.

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tldr: Harris is getting a billion dollars 💸

i do not understand why when all the polling shows she has no pth.
can someone please explain why? am not allowed to start a new thread.

Cite your polling.

DP but she polls better than Biden in most categories with the exception of old white people. Also, before it was a hypothetical. Now it's reality. We'll see how much things change now that the Democrats have a fresh ticket instead of a tired old man with dementia. Haven't we all seen the Trump show before? It's a tired act. Harris brings a generational shift and fresh energy to the ticket at the top. And don't discount having the first woman President as being a thing for Democrats and younger voters.

+1. I’m raising two Gen Z voters. They would have voted with zero enthusiasm for Biden. But probably only because we raised our kids to believe voting is the responsibility of every adult citizen (kids had to go with one parent when they voted, if they did, we got Mellow Mushroom while we watched returns, etc). They are fired up. Which is essential. Because Boomers will always vote. Dem win if Gen Z turns out. But, Gen Z won’t turn out, writ large, for meh vs worse meh.

My GenZ kids aren’t fired up. One said he’d vote for Whitmer. Maybe they will be, but not yet…

are they going to vote for Trump?

DP. My GenZ kids are voting for the Republicans. They’ve made that very clear.

Should've raised them better...

They’re probably lying to their Republican parents to get them off their backs.

DP. It’s funny how you actually believe GenZ will uniformly vote for Democrats. Echo chamber, much?
- a GenZ voter

Why woudl GenZ vote for Trump?

There is a large swath of angry young men, mostly white. We know them as incels, bros, and betas (though they think they're omegas). They have been sent down a rightwing rabbit hole online. If they disconnect from their screens for five minutes, they would probably vote Trump or kennedy.

Speaking of echo chamber ^^

They think they're the last.? Or. Maybe these angry makes don't know the Greek alphabet.

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The MAGA meltdown is epic.

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Anonymous wrote:72 hours ago, Biden was vowing he wouldn’t drop out . That was Friday.

What changed?

He lost his party. They asked him nicely and quietly to do the right thing. He didn’t. So ever larger members of the party said or leaked that he should go and donors stopped the flow of money. Good, bad or neutral— Dude was pushed out. No other way to say it.

Exactly. We all know this, even the sappy kumbaya Democrats who insist he’s a “hero.”

He is a hero. To make a sacrifice for the greater good is the definition of being a hero, and he did it. Trump could never. Biden and Harris brought our country back from the ditch the GOP had steered us into, and they did it with essentially zero praise from the media.

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The "new" number is rather astounding.

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Anonymous wrote:72 hours ago, Biden was vowing he wouldn’t drop out . That was Friday.

What changed?

He lost his party. They asked him nicely and quietly to do the right thing. He didn’t. So ever larger members of the party said or leaked that he should go and donors stopped the flow of money. Good, bad or neutral— Dude was pushed out. No other way to say it.

Exactly. We all know this, even the sappy kumbaya Democrats who insist he’s a “hero.”

I'm not a sappy kumbaya Dem, and I respect Biden for putting country over his ego. Trump would never do this.

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Harris has now raised over $100 million in one day. No wonder the MAGAs are freaking out.

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Anonymous wrote:The anger and fear in Republicans is palpable on this thread.

I'm not a Republican, I'm a leftist/anarchist and I don't like Joe Biden. I do also notice some angry conservatives in this thread, but tbh I don't see a huge difference between Biden and Trump.

I'm relieved to have Kamala Harris as an option over Genocide Joe, but that doesn't mean I'm ok with this two-party system that is strangling my money and my right to exist in a real democracy.

? your definition of "real democracy" is anarchy. That's not really a democracy. That's just anarchy.

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Who else is suddenly really pumped for November? I can't remember the last time Democrats were this excited! Probably 2008.

Yep, absolutely getting the same vibe

You are getting an exciting vibe from the democratic process being blatantly disregarded in favor of the power of a few? Weird flex but ok go off

The only people who think that are conservatives. It's not the Democratic process, it's internal party decision making which presents a candidate for the democratic process.

So primaries don’t matter? Is that what you are suggesting? The will of the people doesn’t matter?

They do. She was on the ticket. Nobody is upset about this, except Trumpers.

She was on the ticket as VP.

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What I find truly hilarious is that when Biden was the candidate, all anyone could talk about (in horrified whispers) was that if anything happened to him, *Kamala Harris* would be president - the absolute horror!! And that a vote for Joe Biden was really a vote for Kamala Harris as president. And now, all of a sudden, Democrats are pretending that this same person is the very best candidate in the world! And she’ll make a great president! It’s so, so funny.

The spin being put on this truly horrible candidate (who millions agreed would be awful, up until one day ago) is something to behold.

literally everyone is endorsing her and she's raising an insane amount of money... i'm not sure what the spin is here.

So you won’t admit that just a day ago, the general consensus was that she would make a horrible president and that everyone would be holding their breath that nothing would happen to Biden in the next four years, thus making her POTUS? I mean, at least be honest. That was unthinkable. But now, apparently, Ds have convinced themselves that cackling Kamala will make a fine president! Yay, she’s so fabulous! Okaaaaaay….

I have never heard any concern about her being president if something happened to Biden. I don't know where this spin is coming from but it's another spin. That's been likely was generated from one of those Russian Internet sites that have been trying to sell division in our country. Try to get your news straight.

Of course it’s spin. They’re so desperate right now, desperate for something to cling to.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris has now raised over $100 million in one day. No wonder the MAGAs are freaking out.

I'm an Independent, former R. I said to DH yesterday that we should donate to Actblue.

#beatTrump

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Anonymous wrote:The MAGA meltdown is epic.

You wish and I’m not even a Trump supporter. KH is a very weak candidate with no record to run on, was complicit in lying to the American public and could barely make a run for it in 2016. She may be historic - and I am excited by that - but it is not enough.