Joe is out

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Anonymous wrote:If the Dems hope to have a chance, their candidate should in no way be aligned with the far left.

The country wants secure borders, equal opportunity (not equal outcome), etc. It’s not going to be enough for Biden to simply be out of the race—the country does not want far left policies.



The country doesn’t want abortion bans. Ask 57% of Ohio voters who approved a constitutional amendment protecting abortion access.

Republican presidency= national abortion ban. It’s not complicated.

Most voters are not going to make their decision based only on abortion access. The country does not want far left policies.

Women’s healthcare, reproductive rights, privacy and bodily autonomy are not far left policies. The country will prove you wrong. Most voters will prove you wrong.


And the Democrats are going to have a woman with the ability to clearly articulate that message. It's going to drive a ton of female and youth votes as shown over the past two years.


This is the ONLY thing she may be able to coherently discuss. She certainly cannot talk about her work as border czar. Or about how the Biden/Harris admin saw the worst inflation in years and voters are still suffering from the high prices.

She was never the “border czar,” so no she’s not going to talk about that.


Oh, you’re right. She was simply tasked by POTUS to discover the “root causes” of migration. I’d say she failed that task, especially considering she never even visited the border until she was called out for not doing so.
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Good. Then don't vote for her. You already made up your mind so your opinion here is less than relevant. But the train is leaving the station and everyone else is getting on board.


lol you’re deluded if you think the train is democrats. No, the train we are all trying to catch is swing state independents and she won’t.



That’s not swing state independents.


Swing state independents aren’t needed if you fire up the D base in those same swing states. The numbers are there. If more people who lean D vote, the fence sitters can keep on sitting. Thanks Stacey Abrams for showing us this!
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Anonymous wrote:Civiqs polling from before Biden officially dropped out:


I wonder if Harris going from hypothetical to actual will mean even higher numbers across those categories.


definitely... i think we should talking about florida going blue.


Well, based on their donations to Harris's campaign in the last 2 days, it's definitely looking that way.

I stole this from another poster on the 40K on Zoom call thread. Look at all the small dollar donations from the cities of Florida. That's a lot of voters.

This is a map of new small dollar donations since Biden dropped out.


re Florida...

My parents are in their 80's and don't live in Florida. But in talking to them over the weekend, they "saw" the holocaust and WW2, they saw fascism and they saw how life got better in the US over their lifetimes. They are seeing the USA at a crossroads and are fearful for their grandchildrem (my kids) and the country and world they will know. If our conversations are a proxy at all, then seniors understand what MAGA and Project 2025 will mean and could very much reject that this fall.

With abortion being on the ballot in Florida and seniors who think like my parents, there could be a real chance.

My mother is 91 and lives in central Florida. She is an immigrant American who naturalized in the late 1950's. Prior to 2020, my mother had never voted Democratic in her life. But she said in 2020, she and a number of her senior friends (all naturalized immigrants) realized how terrible Trump was for the immigrant and senior communities and they voted for Biden. Her county vote 50.66% for Biden in 2020 and it was the first time that county had gone blue since 1948.

With a viable alternative to Trump, there are a lot of Floridians, especially a ton of Floridian seniors who will vote for Harris. Trump always touts his support from the Villages, but the Villages is NOT representative of the seniors in Florida. In 2020, Florida seniors voted slightly in favor of Biden. It is likely that Harris will take an even bigger portion of the senior vote, since Trump's policies are very hard on seniors.
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Anonymous wrote:If the Dems hope to have a chance, their candidate should in no way be aligned with the far left.

The country wants secure borders, equal opportunity (not equal outcome), etc. It’s not going to be enough for Biden to simply be out of the race—the country does not want far left policies.



The country doesn’t want abortion bans. Ask 57% of Ohio voters who approved a constitutional amendment protecting abortion access.

Republican presidency= national abortion ban. It’s not complicated.

Most voters are not going to make their decision based only on abortion access. The country does not want far left policies.

Women’s healthcare, reproductive rights, privacy and bodily autonomy are not far left policies. The country will prove you wrong. Most voters will prove you wrong.


And the Democrats are going to have a woman with the ability to clearly articulate that message. It's going to drive a ton of female and youth votes as shown over the past two years.


This is the ONLY thing she may be able to coherently discuss. She certainly cannot talk about her work as border czar. Or about how the Biden/Harris admin saw the worst inflation in years and voters are still suffering from the high prices.

She was never the “border czar,” so no she’s not going to talk about that.


Oh, you’re right. She was simply tasked by POTUS to discover the “root causes” of migration. I’d say she failed that task, especially considering she never even visited the border until she was called out for not doing so.
DP


Good. Then don't vote for her. You already made up your mind so your opinion here is less than relevant. But the train is leaving the station and everyone else is getting on board.


“Everyone else”??
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Anonymous wrote:The MAGA meltdown is epic.


You wish and I’m not even a Trump supporter. KH is a very weak candidate with no record to run on, was complicit in lying to the American public and could barely make a run for it in 2016. She may be historic - and I am excited by that - but it is not enough.


Huh? She ran and won in 2016.


More like, she was simply attached to the ticket. No one actually wanted to imagine what she would be like as - god forbid - President Kamala Harris.
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Different DP

People voted for the ticket BECAUSE of her. If you don't know that, you are in a bubble.


You can’t seriously believe that when her unfavorable ratings have been so high since day one. Come on now.


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Completely delulu.
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Anonymous wrote:If the Dems hope to have a chance, their candidate should in no way be aligned with the far left.

The country wants secure borders, equal opportunity (not equal outcome), etc. It’s not going to be enough for Biden to simply be out of the race—the country does not want far left policies.



The country doesn’t want abortion bans. Ask 57% of Ohio voters who approved a constitutional amendment protecting abortion access.

Republican presidency= national abortion ban. It’s not complicated.

Most voters are not going to make their decision based only on abortion access. The country does not want far left policies.

Women’s healthcare, reproductive rights, privacy and bodily autonomy are not far left policies. The country will prove you wrong. Most voters will prove you wrong.


And the Democrats are going to have a woman with the ability to clearly articulate that message. It's going to drive a ton of female and youth votes as shown over the past two years.


KH is not articulate.

Most voters care about the cost of groceries and the border.

LOL! Keep believing that your Fox News bubble is everyone.


DP I believe the polls, both the matchup polls and the voter issue polls. Border and economy are the two top issues for voters. Stomping your feet about Fox News isn’t going to change that, and Kamala is weak on the border.

The border comes up like clockwork every 4 years when the GOP decides to make it an issue. It’s the same playbook again. Yawn.



They have to. With the overturn of Roe v Wade, their main wedge issue is gone.
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Anonymous wrote:If the Dems hope to have a chance, their candidate should in no way be aligned with the far left.

The country wants secure borders, equal opportunity (not equal outcome), etc. It’s not going to be enough for Biden to simply be out of the race—the country does not want far left policies.



The country doesn’t want abortion bans. Ask 57% of Ohio voters who approved a constitutional amendment protecting abortion access.

Republican presidency= national abortion ban. It’s not complicated.

Most voters are not going to make their decision based only on abortion access. The country does not want far left policies.

Women’s healthcare, reproductive rights, privacy and bodily autonomy are not far left policies. The country will prove you wrong. Most voters will prove you wrong.


And the Democrats are going to have a woman with the ability to clearly articulate that message. It's going to drive a ton of female and youth votes as shown over the past two years.


This is the ONLY thing she may be able to coherently discuss. She certainly cannot talk about her work as border czar. Or about how the Biden/Harris admin saw the worst inflation in years and voters are still suffering from the high prices.

She was never the “border czar,” so no she’s not going to talk about that.


Oh, you’re right. She was simply tasked by POTUS to discover the “root causes” of migration. I’d say she failed that task, especially considering she never even visited the border until she was called out for not doing so.
DP

She was tasked with diplomacy in the countries that most of the people wanting asylum are coming from. Photo ops at the border to not help with that.


And so how did all of that go for her? Did it reduce illegal immigration?
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Anonymous wrote:Already half way there in 24 hours.



I can’t believe the party wailing about democracy isn’t going to have an open convention.

Everyone was invited to run.


The convention hasn’t started yet.

Yes, and nobody else chose to run in it.


Dean Philips tried last year and was mocked by you people.
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Anonymous wrote:If the Dems hope to have a chance, their candidate should in no way be aligned with the far left.

The country wants secure borders, equal opportunity (not equal outcome), etc. It’s not going to be enough for Biden to simply be out of the race—the country does not want far left policies.



The country doesn’t want abortion bans. Ask 57% of Ohio voters who approved a constitutional amendment protecting abortion access.

Republican presidency= national abortion ban. It’s not complicated.

Most voters are not going to make their decision based only on abortion access. The country does not want far left policies.

Women’s healthcare, reproductive rights, privacy and bodily autonomy are not far left policies. The country will prove you wrong. Most voters will prove you wrong.


And the Democrats are going to have a woman with the ability to clearly articulate that message. It's going to drive a ton of female and youth votes as shown over the past two years.


KH is not articulate.

Most voters care about the cost of groceries and the border.

LOL! Keep believing that your Fox News bubble is everyone.


DP. I don’t watch Fox and these are issues I care very much about. Also, student loan forgiveness, which is absurd and blatantly flouts the SC ruling.


it is an "official act," so perfectly legal.


It’s perfectly shameless pandering for votes, is what it is. It attracts people who feel others should be on the hook for the loans they voluntarily took out.


But you are not articulating the issue. These people took out 60k in loans, for example, and have paid the $60,000 plus another $30,000 and still have 90,000 in loans. That is predatory. They have more than paid back their debt.
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Anonymous wrote:Civiqs polling from before Biden officially dropped out:


I wonder if Harris going from hypothetical to actual will mean even higher numbers across those categories.


definitely... i think we should talking about florida going blue.


Well, based on their donations to Harris's campaign in the last 2 days, it's definitely looking that way.

I stole this from another poster on the 40K on Zoom call thread. Look at all the small dollar donations from the cities of Florida. That's a lot of voters.

This is a map of new small dollar donations since Biden dropped out.


re Florida...

My parents are in their 80's and don't live in Florida. But in talking to them over the weekend, they "saw" the holocaust and WW2, they saw fascism and they saw how life got better in the US over their lifetimes. They are seeing the USA at a crossroads and are fearful for their grandchildrem (my kids) and the country and world they will know. If our conversations are a proxy at all, then seniors understand what MAGA and Project 2025 will mean and could very much reject that this fall.

With abortion being on the ballot in Florida and seniors who think like my parents, there could be a real chance.


My mother is 91 and lives in central Florida. She is an immigrant American who naturalized in the late 1950's. Prior to 2020, my mother had never voted Democratic in her life. But she said in 2020, she and a number of her senior friends (all naturalized immigrants) realized how terrible Trump was for the immigrant and senior communities and they voted for Biden. Her county vote 50.66% for Biden in 2020 and it was the first time that county had gone blue since 1948.

With a viable alternative to Trump, there are a lot of Floridians, especially a ton of Floridian seniors who will vote for Harris. Trump always touts his support from the Villages, but the Villages is NOT representative of the seniors in Florida. In 2020, Florida seniors voted slightly in favor of Biden. It is likely that Harris will take an even bigger portion of the senior vote, since Trump's policies are very hard on seniors.

The anecdotes about random grandparents are silly. Just stop.
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I can’t believe the party wailing about democracy isn’t going to have an open convention.

Everyone was invited to run.


The convention hasn’t started yet.

Yes, and nobody else chose to run in it.


Dean Philips tried last year and was mocked by you people.

He ran and he didn’t win.
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re Florida...

My parents are in their 80's and don't live in Florida. But in talking to them over the weekend, they "saw" the holocaust and WW2, they saw fascism and they saw how life got better in the US over their lifetimes. They are seeing the USA at a crossroads and are fearful for their grandchildrem (my kids) and the country and world they will know. If our conversations are a proxy at all, then seniors understand what MAGA and Project 2025 will mean and could very much reject that this fall.

With abortion being on the ballot in Florida and seniors who think like my parents, there could be a real chance.

My mother is 91 and lives in central Florida. She is an immigrant American who naturalized in the late 1950's. Prior to 2020, my mother had never voted Democratic in her life. But she said in 2020, she and a number of her senior friends (all naturalized immigrants) realized how terrible Trump was for the immigrant and senior communities and they voted for Biden. Her county vote 50.66% for Biden in 2020 and it was the first time that county had gone blue since 1948.


My 92 yo mother, a life-long Republican, voted for Trump in 2016 because she (like a lot of R's I know) actually believed that he was a competent businessman who would be a positive change to Washington business as usual. She found 4 years of Trump horrifying---the constant chaos, the undignified and childish behavior---and for the first time ever voted for a Dem in 2020. Like the seniors described above, she vividly remembers WWII, fascism, and sees Trump as a frightening authoritarian wannabe who cares only about himself, not the country. She is very religious and nauseated by the evangelicals embrace of Trump. She will be pulling the lever for Harris.
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Kamala: we’ve been to the border. We’ve been to the border!
Lester Holt: You haven’t been to the border.
Kamala: and I haven’t been to Europe either.

The ads write themselves!!
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re Florida...

My parents are in their 80's and don't live in Florida. But in talking to them over the weekend, they "saw" the holocaust and WW2, they saw fascism and they saw how life got better in the US over their lifetimes. They are seeing the USA at a crossroads and are fearful for their grandchildrem (my kids) and the country and world they will know. If our conversations are a proxy at all, then seniors understand what MAGA and Project 2025 will mean and could very much reject that this fall.

With abortion being on the ballot in Florida and seniors who think like my parents, there could be a real chance.

My mother is 91 and lives in central Florida. She is an immigrant American who naturalized in the late 1950's. Prior to 2020, my mother had never voted Democratic in her life. But she said in 2020, she and a number of her senior friends (all naturalized immigrants) realized how terrible Trump was for the immigrant and senior communities and they voted for Biden. Her county vote 50.66% for Biden in 2020 and it was the first time that county had gone blue since 1948.


My 92 yo mother, a life-long Republican, voted for Trump in 2016 because she (like a lot of R's I know) actually believed that he was a competent businessman who would be a positive change to Washington business as usual. She found 4 years of Trump horrifying---the constant chaos, the undignified and childish behavior---and for the first time ever voted for a Dem in 2020. Like the seniors described above, she vividly remembers WWII, fascism, and sees Trump as a frightening authoritarian wannabe who cares only about himself, not the country. She is very religious and nauseated by the evangelicals embrace of Trump. She will be pulling the lever for Harris.



Miami Herald: Florida remains off the table for Democrats.

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article290288739.html
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Anonymous wrote:If the Dems hope to have a chance, their candidate should in no way be aligned with the far left.

The country wants secure borders, equal opportunity (not equal outcome), etc. It’s not going to be enough for Biden to simply be out of the race—the country does not want far left policies.



The country doesn’t want abortion bans. Ask 57% of Ohio voters who approved a constitutional amendment protecting abortion access.

Republican presidency= national abortion ban. It’s not complicated.

Most voters are not going to make their decision based only on abortion access. The country does not want far left policies.

Women’s healthcare, reproductive rights, privacy and bodily autonomy are not far left policies. The country will prove you wrong. Most voters will prove you wrong.


And the Democrats are going to have a woman with the ability to clearly articulate that message. It's going to drive a ton of female and youth votes as shown over the past two years.


This is the ONLY thing she may be able to coherently discuss. She certainly cannot talk about her work as border czar. Or about how the Biden/Harris admin saw the worst inflation in years and voters are still suffering from the high prices.

She was never the “border czar,” so no she’s not going to talk about that.


Oh, you’re right. She was simply tasked by POTUS to discover the “root causes” of migration. I’d say she failed that task, especially considering she never even visited the border until she was called out for not doing so.
DP

She was tasked with diplomacy in the countries that most of the people wanting asylum are coming from. Photo ops at the border to not help with that.


The vast majority of voters are not going to care about or even know of this supposed distinction. She was widely known as being appointed to be the border czar.
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re Florida...

My parents are in their 80's and don't live in Florida. But in talking to them over the weekend, they "saw" the holocaust and WW2, they saw fascism and they saw how life got better in the US over their lifetimes. They are seeing the USA at a crossroads and are fearful for their grandchildrem (my kids) and the country and world they will know. If our conversations are a proxy at all, then seniors understand what MAGA and Project 2025 will mean and could very much reject that this fall.

With abortion being on the ballot in Florida and seniors who think like my parents, there could be a real chance.

My mother is 91 and lives in central Florida. She is an immigrant American who naturalized in the late 1950's. Prior to 2020, my mother had never voted Democratic in her life. But she said in 2020, she and a number of her senior friends (all naturalized immigrants) realized how terrible Trump was for the immigrant and senior communities and they voted for Biden. Her county vote 50.66% for Biden in 2020 and it was the first time that county had gone blue since 1948.


My 92 yo mother, a life-long Republican, voted for Trump in 2016 because she (like a lot of R's I know) actually believed that he was a competent businessman who would be a positive change to Washington business as usual. She found 4 years of Trump horrifying---the constant chaos, the undignified and childish behavior---and for the first time ever voted for a Dem in 2020. Like the seniors described above, she vividly remembers WWII, fascism, and sees Trump as a frightening authoritarian wannabe who cares only about himself, not the country. She is very religious and nauseated by the evangelicals embrace of Trump. She will be pulling the lever for Harris.



Miami Herald: Florida remains off the table for Democrats.

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article290288739.html


People were wondering why dems do as well as they do with women in Southern states. And the answer is quite simple: because they are actually seeing Project 2025 in action
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