MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright

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Anonymous wrote:Wright was a very bad man.

The warrant was over unpaid fines for 2 minor misdemeanors — one a marijuana case — totaling $346. He pled guilty, filed for deferred payment and they were sent to collections.

We can't have individuals like this in our communities.

This made him a bad man.

I know these comments are both sarcasm but holding up a woman at gunpoint and attempting to steal money is not a minor offense.

WHOA, is this true?

Why would someone try to portray him as an angel?

Likely the reason he tried to flee. He had an active warrant for his arrest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wright was a very bad man.

The warrant was over unpaid fines for 2 minor misdemeanors — one a marijuana case — totaling $346. He pled guilty, filed for deferred payment and they were sent to collections.

We can't have individuals like this in our communities.

This made him a bad man.

I know these comments are both sarcasm but holding up a woman at gunpoint and attempting to steal money is not a minor offense.

WHOA, is this true?

Why would someone try to portray him as an angel?

Likely the reason he tried to flee. He had an active warrant for his arrest.

The warrant was for a misdemeanor no permit and he had a warrant because the courts never sent him a notice for the court date.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious here; informal poll

- how many felony warrants does everyone have?

- how many illegal gun charges did you have when you were 20?

- what’s everyone’s rap sheet look like, especially as to narcotics dealing before you were 21?

- does anyone here have insurance on their car?

Irrelevant. People who commit crimes still have rights, like it or not.

Like it or not, cops have a right to be maybe a little more cautious around armed drug dealers, doncha think?

All of this is hindsight. At the time, he was a just a Black kid, and that alone was enough to make him scary.

His warrants / past gun-crimes were known before the officers even got out of their car; they appear automatically on the cruiser’s plate - reader.

Misdemeanor for a permit. Big deal

Wasn’t he arrested 2 years ago for holding up a woman at gunpoint and trying to steal $800+?

No he was being arrested gor a warrant ... failure to appear to pay a fine and the court never sent him notice of the court date.

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Anonymous wrote:Lawyer here who used to go after bad cops. Video is clear and is why bodycam video is needed. This was a mistake. She says taser, taser taser and fires a single pull. If she was shooting him a single pull is unlikely. If she meant to shoot him and cover it up most would yell gun not taser, taser, taser. The other officers are not clear for a gunshot either. Also the context is a guy slipping out of handcuffs and there is an ongoing battle. There is no crime committed by the officer. Negligent homicide requires a level of intent that is not really negligent despite the name. I will go further and say they may not be able to legally fire her. I think they will. Mayor is already calling for it but she will get the job back with back pay. People may not like that but it is what I see.

This is why it's not myopically about one case. It's about a system.

This doesn't happen to white people in rich neighborhoods. Not because they commit less crime. But because they aren't seen as unworthy of life.

Sorry, but yes “because they commit less (violent) crime”. Have you lived in the US?

Years old, but didn’t feel like looking very hard and seems fair: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

No they don’t commit more crimes they get arrested more. Big difference.

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Wrong, wrong, wrong.

It absolutely IS department policy and REQUIRED that all officers wear their taser on the nondominant side, and their gun on their dominant side. It’s department policy, it’s trained, it’s drilled into them. The whole purpose is to avoid a situation where the wrong weapon is drawn in ‘the fog of war.’ This woman is a 26 year veteran officer - no way she doesn’t know this policy and requirement.

Additionally, the differences in shape, weight, color, and trigger pressure required makes it inexplicable that a 26 year veteran officer could pull her firearm and think she’s holding her taser. It’s nonsensical. Never mind that in the body cam video you can see with your own eyes that her firearm is extended in front of her, in her own line of vision, and it’s a black Glock and not a yellow taser. The officer to her right has his taser holstered on his nondominant (left) side and you can see it, how bright yellow and not black Glock it is.

Finally, under Minnesota law she can be charged with murder for the consequences of the action she ‘meant’ to engage in - tasering Wright. If her actions resulted in his death, whatever she intended her actions caused that deadly result and her gross negligence and disregard for human life - just like in Chauvin’s case - could see her charged with 2nd degree murder.

Plus she’s a piece of shit.

Can anyone link to the source of her having the taser on dominant side?

I agree it’s inexplicable in many respects. But all I’ve seen are pictures, presumably from other times, which seem to show her duty belt set up with taser on left (presumed non dominant side). Maybe it was different during the incident, but I haven’t seen any way to confirm that.

It’s pretty hard to know how she drew or where stuff was located without seeing an external view, but based on her body worn camera, she is holding a piece of paper (citation? Something about the warrant?) in her right hand. Right before the shooting it seems like she transfers it to her left hand and then we see the gun come up in her right hand. Initially I thought maybe she already had it drawn. But it seems like she drew it quickly after transferring the paper. Based on the body worn camera I can’t really speculate on her field of vision or where she’s looking, but the way she holds the gun and single discharge does seem more consistent with using a taser than a gun.

There’s really no way to qualify the tragedy of the outcome. A young life was lost here and there’s no way to walk that back. There’s really no way to adequately express how difficult this must be for his family and for the young passenger who witnessed this.

Noor was charged with second degree (intentional) murder, but was not convicted on that charge at trial. Noor intentionally shot though, so I’m not sure the same set of arguments exists here for 2nd degree with intent unless they develop more info to suggest the shot was intentional. There’s also second degree unintentional murder in MN (which Chauvin is charged with) which I guess there arguments that could fit but it seems weaker in this case on the intentional assault element. In my opinion you could make a stronger argument for 3rd degree that discharging without confirming is reckless conduct, shows disregard for human life that endangered others (Daunte, his passenger, and the other officers who are potentially in the line of fire). Manslaughter might be a more likely conviction because I foresee defense could argue whether it’s “depraved” conduct under the circumstances. There is probably more information investigators have so I guess we’ll see tomorrow.

2nd degree unintentional murder is what I meant, hence the reference to Chauvin immediately following.

As to where the officer wore her taser, I have no reason to question that it was worn on her opposite nondominant side as required. Nevertheless she drew her service firearm instead and murdered a 20 year old son and father. My speculation is that she was so wrapped up in showing herself off as the big tough training officer to those younger cops she was supervising that she lost her F’ing sense - just like Chauvin did almost a year ago.

I know a lot about the cop mentality and cop culture. I worked with them day in and day out as a prosecutor in a small jurisdiction just like Brooklyn Center. I also have some in my immediate family. Cops are the reason I quit the legal system.

Pardon my imprecise language in the prior post, it was late and I was both outraged and sickened by many of the posts here I had just read apologizing and excusing this woman’s outrageous negligence.

[Anonymous]

^ You can hate cops all you want, but this has happened several times and it can be attributed to poor training or just plain ol screwing up. When you train once a year, stuff like this is going to happen somewhat frequently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wright was a very bad man.

The warrant was over unpaid fines for 2 minor misdemeanors — one a marijuana case — totaling $346. He pled guilty, filed for deferred payment and they were sent to collections.

We can't have individuals like this in our communities.

This made him a bad man.

I know these comments are both sarcasm but holding up a woman at gunpoint and attempting to steal money is not a minor offense.

WHOA, is this true?

Why would someone try to portray him as an angel?

Likely the reason he tried to flee. He had an active warrant for his arrest.

The warrant was for a misdemeanor no permit and he had a warrant because the courts never sent him a notice for the court date.

Did he have multiple open warrants os is robbing and choking someone at gunpoint a misdemeanor?

https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-accused-choking-robbing-004851464.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wright was a very bad man.

The warrant was over unpaid fines for 2 minor misdemeanors — one a marijuana case — totaling $346. He pled guilty, filed for deferred payment and they were sent to collections.

We can't have individuals like this in our communities.

This made him a bad man.

I know these comments are both sarcasm but holding up a woman at gunpoint and attempting to steal money is not a minor offense.

WHOA, is this true?

Why would someone try to portray him as an angel?

Likely the reason he tried to flee. He had an active warrant for his arrest.

The warrant was for a misdemeanor no permit and he had a warrant because the courts never sent him a notice for the court date.

Did he have multiple open warrants os is robbing and choking someone at gunpoint a misdemeanor?

https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-accused-choking-robbing-004851464.html

That article shows how Wright was a cocky dude that thought he could get away. He fled police in June while in possession of an illegal firearm, which was a parole violation. The traffic stop turned into an arrest due to the warrant. Wright wasn’t an innocent man. He made poor choices, and those choices resulted in his death. This wasn’t an “oops! I didn’t know I had a warrant out for my arrest!” moment.

Honestly, I feel for the cop and his mom. In the heat of the moment the cop pulled the wrong item from her belt. I have read any statements implying she stored it on the wrong side of her belt, please correct me if I’m wrong. If she was aware he has been previously in possession of illegal firearms, I would be much more on guard. The poor mom was one of the first people to see her son dead. No mom should have to see that. She should take some time to heal before pointing the blame. Maybe she was unaware of her son’s arrest record.

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Haven’t read...

[Anonymous]

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Did he have multiple open warrants os is robbing and choking someone at gunpoint a misdemeanor?

https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-accused-choking-robbing-004851464.html

It doesn’t matter what the warrant was for, cops are not supposed to murder guilty people OR innocent people. Those cops had only the information that the warrant was for gross misdemeanor failure to appear. They didn’t have all the information in that article you posted.

The police had no reason to suspect he was armed, and protocol was violated in multiple ways. She was not even supposed to be tasing him, that was also a violation of protocol against tasing people in vehicles.

Finally, our entire criminal justice system is supposed to be built on the concept of REHABILITATION. The notion that people can change over time. As someone who worked in the system for a quarter century, I’ve seen far more stories of redemption than I’ve seen recidivism, especially in younger people whose frontal lobes that govern impulsivity are still developing. So this young man once did a very shitty thing - that’s not great, to be sure. But it is going on four years later and he is now a father and his life is on a different trajectory. And he’s murdered over expired tags (when the Minnesota DMV is many months behind processing renewal registrations) and a warrant for a misdemeanor failure to appear? That is F’d up. Period.

[Anonymous]

My, dont the facts change from “having an air freshener” to “robbing and choking a friend at gunpoint for $800”. Per usual.

This appears to be a tragic accident.

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Anonymous wrote:My, dont the facts change from “having an air freshener” to “robbing and choking a friend at gunpoint for $800”. Per usual.

This appears to be a tragic accident.

It does not matter what he did in the past. It does not matter what he did in the past. How many times does this have to be said before it will sink in? Cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people either. They manage to apprehend violent white criminals all the friggin time. But for some reason, black criminals keep ending up dead without due process. Hmm why could that be?

[Anonymous]

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Did he have multiple open warrants os is robbing and choking someone at gunpoint a misdemeanor?

https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-accused-choking-robbing-004851464.html

It doesn’t matter what the warrant was for, cops are not supposed to murder guilty people OR innocent people. Those cops had only the information that the warrant was for gross misdemeanor failure to appear. They didn’t have all the information in that article you posted.

The police had no reason to suspect he was armed, and protocol was violated in multiple ways. She was not even supposed to be tasing him, that was also a violation of protocol against tasing people in vehicles.

Finally, our entire criminal justice system is supposed to be built on the concept of REHABILITATION. The notion that people can change over time. As someone who worked in the system for a quarter century, I’ve seen far more stories of redemption than I’ve seen recidivism, especially in younger people whose frontal lobes that govern impulsivity are still developing. So this young man once did a very shitty thing - that’s not great, to be sure. But it is going on four years later and he is now a father and his life is on a different trajectory. And he’s murdered over expired tags (when the Minnesota DMV is many months behind processing renewal registrations) and a warrant for a misdemeanor failure to appear? That is F’d up. Period.

So we should rehabilitate criminals by allowing them to flee and continue committing crimes? How much time has the guy served or how much restitution did he make for the crimes he committed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My, dont the facts change from “having an air freshener” to “robbing and choking a friend at gunpoint for $800”. Per usual.

This appears to be a tragic accident.

It does not matter what he did in the past. It does not matter what he did in the past. How many times does this have to be said before it will sink in? Cops aren't supposed to kill guilty people either. They manage to apprehend violent white criminals all the friggin time. But for some reason, black criminals keep ending up dead without due process. Hmm why could that be?

It really does matter, especially the accidental aspect. There are many studies about the “fog of war” etc. how many soldiers are killed by friendly fire? A lot. People make mistakes when under severe risk/pressure at a much higher rate and this certainly seems to be a mistake based on the transcript.

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Anonymous wrote:Wright was a very bad man. . .


Did he have multiple open warrants os is robbing and choking someone at gunpoint a misdemeanor?

https://news.yahoo.com/daunte-wright-accused-choking-robbing-004851464.html

Here is what that link states:

“ Daunte Wright, the 20-year-old Black man shot by a police officer in a Minneapolis suburb Sunday afternoon, had an open warrant for his arrest related to an aggravated armed robbery attempt as of Sunday, according to court records.

Wright and another man, identified as Emajay Maurice Driver, a high school acquaintance, had both been charged with first-degree aggravated robbery in a December 2019 incident in Osseso, Minn., Hennepin County District Court documents show.

According to the documents, Wright and Driver went to a party at an apartment in the 600 block of North Oaks Drive in Osseo – about 5 miles from Brooklyn Center.

Around 2:30 a.m., two women at the home told Wright and Driver they needed to leave, but the two men said they did not have a ride, the documents say. The women reportedly allowed the Wright and Driver to spend the night.

In the morning, one of the two women left the apartment to get $820 in cash to pay the other for rent. After paying the rent, she left for work.

As Wright and Driver were waiting for their rides, the other woman who stayed behind said Wright allegedly blocked the door, preventing her from leaving. Wright then allegedly pulled a black handgun "with silver trim out from either his right waistband or his right coat pocket," pointed it at the woman and demanded the $820, the court documents say.”

Armed robbery with a deadly weapon IS serious.

Nevertheless, the tape shows the female officer here simply made a tragic mistake.

There is NO evidence of racism or bad intent here. None whatsoever.