I managed 90 pounds at 5'4 by eating 500 to 600 calories a day but I wouldn't wish an eating disorder on anyone. (Fortunately, this is ancient history!) Celebrate your good habits and your "normal looking" physique. |
Well let me unhijack from the cavemen: what you want is irrelevant. I'm not even talking about the male gaze here (though yes, your comments are all about the male gaze and assuming that what you like to see in a woman is the most important factor in how a woman treats her own body, but I digress). I'm just saying it's irrelevant. When you say you like a woman who lifts weights, you almost certainly mean: I like a woman with a certain body type who also has muscle tone. That doesn't help most of the women on this thread. If you like naturally thin women with a lot of muscle tone, then lifting weights is not going to make a woman who is not naturally thin attractive to you. So then that woman is supposed to, what? Starve herself AND lift weights? Guess what, tons of women already do that. There are entire eating disorders built around restrictive diets that will keep a woman 10-20 pounds under her most comfortable weight while also making sure she's not so hungry she can't spend 20 hours a week at the gym. That's not a lifestyle, it's a prison. So when you say "Forget dieting, do some squats," you don't know what TF you're talking about. The main take away of this thread, for everyone including the cavemen who have invaded it, is this: Women bodies come in a natural range of sizes and shapes. Diet and exercise can alter those sizes and shapes on the margins, but it is largely not sustainable over a lifetime and can be particularly challenging through pregnancy, childbirth, and menopause. So maybe instead of focusing on being thin, or being ripped, or whatever, we should focus on what makes our bodies feel nourished, healthy, and strong, what gives us enough energy to do our jobs and parent our kids and pursue our passions. But sure, okay, let's go from talking about restrictive dieting to discussing the specific combination of gym workout that will make a woman more f***able. |
OK, that could be true. I'm 5'2" 120# have a thigh gap, my ribs are visible, 27 inch waist, my arm veins are very visible. I obviously don't look skeletal. |
Lifting will help your bone density. It will increase your quality of life as you age and prolong your independence. For many women in particular, it's the best thing you can do for your health that you're not currently doing. I would only say "lifting will make you more f***able" as a last resort, because maybe if you don't care about not falling and breaking your hip when you're older, you might care that it really will make you better-looking to many people you might be interested in. Regardless of whether you're thin. Definitely without having to get ripped or spend 20 hours a week on it. And that's highly motivating to many people in a way that "prevent osteoporosis in thirty years" is not. |
| Lol I weigh 190 lbs and have a thigh gap. All that hiking. |
I am the caveman. And I completely agree. My preference in the female form is irrelevant But since the OP said she wants skinny minnie because its "so chic", she made it clear that her preference was unrelated to health and based on appearance. (but FWIW, weight lighting is healthier than dieting, for sure, regardless of the impacts on appearance) Do whatever you want to make your body feel nourished, but that's really not what the OP was asking about... |
Can we stop with thigh gap as an actual thing? As a concept it didn't exist 20 years ago. Between this and labiaplasty, I'm sick of every part of the female body having to look perfect. What's next, elbow shaping? Tongue sculpting? I'm having a difficult time thinking of a part of the female body that isn't scrutinized, found wanting, and offered an expensive fix. Those are basically the only two I could think of. |
I agree with the bolded. The problem is there are a lot of people who don’t focus on nourishing their bodies, being healthy, or strong. They eat Cheetos for lunch, feed their children Cheetos and McNuggets, and smoke and lead a sedentary lifestyle. Or there are people who starve themselves and it becomes life-threatening. There are also 300 lb people who hang out with other 300 lb people and their 300 lb spouses and celebrate their life with shots, beers, greasy foods, and cakes. They don’t want to lose weight and love their Instagram worthy lifestyle. If they even made the day to day effort of taking one step more than the day before, or have one less cookie, then I would be proud of them for taking forward steps (the first of which are the hardest). But they don’t. |
| I have a relatively new friend and we hike together- she is extremely thin (I on the other hand am not....). She will go for a run before the hike. We've gone for lunch after the hike a few times (outdoor seating) and she orders a salad/no dressing/salmon with lemon- not a carb to be had and no dressing ?! That is clearly why she is very thin- tons of exercise and a very lean diet. I'm fit but I order a burger or pasta meal here and there and that is why I am not a skinny minnie (more like a hefty Helen (15lbs overweight) |
Do you actually know these people, or are you just making generalizations? |
I actually know these people. I don’t judge people who I don’t know because I don’t know their circumstances or where they are in their journey if any. Many people are taking small steps to improve their health and I admire that no matter what they look like at the moment. Others have barriers such as living in a food desert, working too many hours for too little pay, or legitimate health issues. The people who you bolded are real people I know who don’t have any excuse. |
What does "my ribs are visible" mean? |
DP-seems self-explanatory to me. |
ribs visible = skeletal. PP said "I obviously don't look skeletal" so what does ribs visible mean to that PP then? |
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Not a "skinnie minnie" but I am experiencing a lot of weight loss. What changed?
- Time of day for eating (no eating after 7pm, first meal is small bwtween 5- 6 am, biggest meal of the day is mid day. - Aerobic Exercise 3-4 times per week - no alcohol, no smoking - lots of water intake throughout the day - daily multivitamin - twice daily dose of black seed oil, taken orally Two weeks of this has lead to nine pounds of weight loss so far. |